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    Dell notebook PCI Express solution

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Earthling10, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. Earthling10

    Earthling10 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ive been holding out for a PCI Epxress notebook solution from Dell for around 9 months now. Im now on the verge of buying the excellent i9200 but Im concerned that Dells new machine might be just around the corner.

    Im looking for a Pentium M based machine running on PCI express with the wireles capabilities and reasonably long battery life AND the long awaited MXM/Axiom modules.

    Is it worth me holding out for a little longer or should i buy the i9200? I'd snap it up today if it came with an X800 or even a mobility 9800 (even if they were not upgradable). Instead I'd be stuck (at least for nw) with a below par mobility 9700 thats likely to struggle in a years time.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. Earthling10

    Earthling10 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im hearing that the new Alviso chipset will be ready to roll in mid feb 2005. Its PCI Express so i guess thats when we'll see the new Inspiron from dell.

    I also expect this chipset to be eiter MXM or Axiom compliant (I think MXM is looking most likely).

    A few months later we should have Sonoma ready and hey presto we have Centrino 2.
     
  3. mathlete2001

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    intel is releasing sonoma in about 3 weeks, so I would wait. It is up to you, however. If Dell starts building sonoma notebooks immediately, you might have a 9300/8700 in your hands sometime in february.

    * Inspiron 8600c * 1.8ghz Pentium M * 128 MB Radeon 9600 Pro Turbo * 2x512 MB DDR2700 SDRAM * 60GB 7200RPM HDD *
     
  4. zeanimal2001

    zeanimal2001 Notebook Evangelist

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    what is a sonoma

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  5. Earthling10

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    Sonoma (Centrino 2) is the alviso chipset and the new Dothan CpU with 533mhz FSB. Basically it will rock. I expect to see a new Dell Inspiron based around that platform by March 2005. It will be worth waiting for and Im holding out for one.
     
  6. Ballin4life

    Ballin4life Notebook Evangelist

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    wait a second, hold up.

    #1: To Andrew, last time i heard, Sonoma was supposed to be released in late 2005, and also, whats the deal with 9300/8700. The 9200 has been out for like 2 months, they're not going to replace it that quickly. Also, Dell also has said that the 8600 (and 600m) line will STAY until i think it was like june, not now.

    #2: To Earthling10, I would think Axoim is most likely (if pci-e is out by then), because Axoim belongs to ATi, which Dell usually tops their cards off with. Hence, the 9600 Proturbo, not the Go5600, and also the 9700 and 9800 and 9000 on other models. MXM i would think would bring up the D800 (i think thats the one)...The more "business" version of the 8600 that uses the Go5600.
     
  7. Ballin4life

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    Oh, and these comments, they're not arguments, i'm just wondering.
     
  8. aznquin55

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    can u upgrade the i9200 graphics card to a mobility 9800??
     
  9. Earthling10

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    Im hearing the Alviso chipset is already ready. Ithink ATI might hve already missed the boat with Axiom a they already have an X800 GPU running on MXM. I still think theres a good chance that Dell might have a Sonoma solution rady to roll in a couple of weeks. Not sure if it will have MXM/Axiom or whether these new GPUs will he hardwred to the board. I think Napa (Centrino 3)might have a proper replaceable graphics module bu that not set for release until Q1 2006 at the earliest.
     
  10. postal

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    I tried posting about this, but my link got removed....

    The Dell Latitude D810 and D610 is slated to be released in January / February. It will feature alviso chipsets with an ATI Graphics Processor, hopefully the x800.

    Alviso is supposed to be officially released on January 17th.

    I haven't heard anything about Inspiron alviso models, but the Latitude models generally have a better build quality than their inspiron counterparts.

    I plan on purchasing one of these notebooks when they become available.
     
  11. Earthling10

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    Will either of these new latitudes be Axiom based? X800 and x600 has already around in other machines and was built into the unit. I'd like to see axiom in d810 but Ive heard nothing about it. We'll know for sure when Intel previews these machines in 3 days at CES:
    http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20041210comp.htm
     
  12. Ballin4life

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    I thought Axoim was ati's replacable card and MXM was geforces? Crossbranding??
     
  13. postal

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    http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/1096.html

    Alviso/Sonoma is being released on the 19th, I suspect the new Dell laptop will be announced then.
     
  14. Ballin4life

    Ballin4life Notebook Evangelist

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    wow thats kool, its coming soon...finally pci-e in a notebook gets real, without being 2 and a half inches thick.
     
  15. jherber

    jherber Notebook Consultant

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    yep, this new chipset should make dothan the king of portable gaming (possibly for the desktop too, but only if you are an overclocker.) there is a bit more power consumption than current chipset, so i wouldn't look for immediate adoption by the thin and lights segment. i'd predict for 2005, thin and lights will continue using the intel 855gm/gme chipset. add a mobile x800 pci-e running full throttle and you've got some serious heat to dissipate.

    the i9200 with a 128meg ati m9700 will play all new titles, though the system will "slideshow" a bit on doom3 with all eye-candy on, AA 2x, and a high resolution. if you are buying a laptop because you are primarly a gamer then by all means wait 2-3 months for the newer architecture.
     
  16. Ballin4life

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    yea, but what i really want is the power of Pentium M Dothan, but with HT, and the features of the new line of the desktop 925XE processors with 1066 fsb, once they get into processors besides the EE(its wierd, i only see alienware saying the new EE has a 2.5 cache but nowhere else i see that, but i dont think it would be much to push the dothan cache 500k higher, and i also see at dell only that all the 5 series p4s have 1066 fsb, but that would be good 2, on a not too expensive gaming notebook). What this would hopefully amount to is just, like for example, Pentium M with HT 3.2 ghz 2.5 mb cache 1066 fsb. and added models with 2.8, 3, 3.4 6 8 and 4.0 ghz models that would rule even though its not realistic in the near future at all.
     
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    jherber Notebook Consultant

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    <blockquote id='quote'> quote:<hr height='1' noshade id='quote'>Originally posted by Ballin4life

     
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