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    Dell vs. Asus

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by imdashep, Jun 1, 2008.

  1. imdashep

    imdashep Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    So I am leaning towards an XPS (or the 1535 if it ever shows it's head), but I'm seeing a ton of nicely configured Asus notebooks with comparable configurations for less. Give me reasons not to buy from them please.
     
  2. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    they're good laptops. usually run warmer but within spec and have poor battery life. other than that, they are highly sought after.
     
  3. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    Asus is notorious for poor battery life
     
  4. imdashep

    imdashep Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Highly sought after? I mean, you can buy them, not sure what sought after means lol.

    Ok so battery life is bad, what else
     
  5. Lucanesti

    Lucanesti Notebook Deity

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    I believe they offer GDDR2 instead of GDDR3 so performance wise its a little lower.
     
  6. X2P

    X2P COOLING | NBR Super Mod

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    sought : # that is looked for; "the long sought relatives"
    # being searched for; "the most sought-after item was the silver candelabru"
     
  7. Lucanesti

    Lucanesti Notebook Deity

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    He tried to say they're popular.
     
  8. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    don't the higher end models usually have gddr3?
     
  9. Lucanesti

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    When fountain was whining and *****ing about canceling he kept saying the Asus was a better performer and someone debunked it, I believe part of that was GDDR2 being used. Im too tired to go scouring tonight.
     
  10. imdashep

    imdashep Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    Yah I think he just improperly used sought, I know what it means.

    Jeez, so no one seems to be debunking an Asus here.
     
  11. Lucanesti

    Lucanesti Notebook Deity

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    Umm, are you blind but able to type?

    Run Hotter
    Uglier
    Weak Battery Life
    Slightly weaker performance out there 8600's
     
  12. haquocdung

    haquocdung Notebook Virtuoso

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    higher price :)
     
  13. Jakpro

    Jakpro Notebook Evangelist

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    Asus laptops do have DDR3 on the graphics card on some models.

    They are both decent machines.
     
  14. p190x

    p190x Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, my esperience with Asus. I bought my A8js in Jan 2007, and until Jan 2008 it had to go for repairs 4 times, on a total of almost two months without the laptop. After complaining (a lot) they offered me a refund in February 2008 (after trying to replace it for a lower spec laptop), but I'm still waiting for the money to be returned. This problem was with Asus UK which is known for a crappy service, so I don't know how it works in other countries. My overall experience:
    - yes they build good specs laptops, but with crappy plastics quality. This means that you have to be extra carefull with the laptop (there is a thread on the F3 model where lots of users complain about a design fault that leads to a crack in the plastic);
    - hinges are normally problematic in some models. In my case, crappy plastics + crappy hinges (1 month after being bought, they were loose almost 1 cm);
    - battery life is low;
    - they do tend to run a bit hot, but part of the explanation is due to the high powered vid card they normally use;
    - support (bios, software, etc) is crap. In the A8js case there was a bios on the internet that was more recent than the one Asus had on the website. It was suposed to solve some issues with linux and other stuff but, after 1 year, still not there. There are stories of even high spec models having problems with bios programming making the laptops run hotter, slower or not recognizing all the ram (not due to OS or chipset limitations). They take ages to correct this stuff.

    I bought a Dell M2300 to replace the A8js and I couldn't be happier (after the Asus experience, anything that doesn't break every 3 months is fantastic!). I'll never go back to Asus again. I gave it a try given the excelente reputation they used to have, but I'll stick with known brands from now on: Dell, HP, Toshiba, Lenovo, and that's it. The only exception will be the MSI Wind I'll buy when it's launched :)
     
  15. imdashep

    imdashep Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    p190x, that mirrors my experience with Acer (although I had to send it in a dozen times over 3 years, including getting a total replacement once). Seals the deal for me, thanks.
     
  16. Fountainhead

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    Er, no one debunked anything. And I never said the particular Asus I was looking at was a better performer. I said that the 512 MB Geforce 9500GS in the Asus was a comparable card the the M1530's 256 MB Geforce 8600GT. And someone posted a chart showing the two cards virtually even, though the Asus' card slightly better.

    To the original poster, Asus makes some very nice notebooks. They are one of the few ODM's (Original Design Manufacturer) that you can buy from. Most manufacturer's notebooks are actually designed and built by companies you've never heard of, and then branded "Dell" or something. Asus designs and manufactures their own. Compal is another. (Compal also used to manufacture some Dell models, though I don't know if they still do.)

    You're on a Dell forum, so everyone will tell you that Asus sucks, and Dell is awesome. Hang around the Asus forum and ask there. You'll get a different view.

    The bottom line is that both companies have nice products, positioned a little differently here and there. Both companies can put out a crappy system here and there. Any individual notebook can suck. The choice between the two amounts to what you want from a notebook, and which company provides that the best. Neither is a wrong choice.
     
  17. stevey5036

    stevey5036 Notebook Evangelist

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    I actually REALLY prefer my friends M50 over my M1530.. I wish I would had gone the Asus route. Just my 2 cents.
     
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    xpyes Notebook Guru

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    any company that puts a faux alligator skin finish on a laptop (seriously, wtf?) is probably best avoided imho.
     
  19. jfdube

    jfdube Notebook Evangelist

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    What about a company that puts out flamingo pink laptops? :confused: :D
     
  20. pukemon

    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    i guess we should avoid lenovo's leather editions too even though they build great laptops. :eek:
     
  21. jaycee

    jaycee Notebook Consultant

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    IMO, Both are good laptops, but you occasionally do get lemons from both. Depends on your luck.

    What I like about ASUS is thier robust build and fairly decent design. HOwever they can run hot and be pathetic on battery life.

    On the later, its odd since both Dell and Asus usually run the same Santa Rosa platform...so either they have really lousy power management or have batteries way under thier rated performance.

    As laptops, I wouldn't mine either.

    I just like my corporate level Dell support better.
     
  22. xpyes

    xpyes Notebook Guru

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    ha you've got a point there
     
  23. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    DELL XPS hands down. NO comparision!
     
  24. Fountainhead

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    Back in school we were always told to show our work. Why does Dell beat Asus "hands down"...besides the apparent fact that you prefer Dell.

    "Dell Roolz and Asus Sux" isn't an objective argument, btw.
     
  25. sesshomaru

    sesshomaru Suspended Disbelief!

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    If you compare the Asus A or F series with an XPS, you are handing the victory to Asus on a platter. The A/F series are their budget/low end series. While Dell touts the XPS as a premium notebook. Try comparing the V or W series with an XPS, and then we can have a fair comparison.

    The biggest negative about Asus is their abysmal battery life. I have used a F3Jp, and it was the cheapest performance notebook i ever used.
    Other than that, it's difficult to find notebooks from any of the major brands(Dell/Sony etc etc.) which can give you similar performance, at an equivalent price.

    Second Point: Asus doesn't charge you an arm and a leg for a decent warranty. Two years global warranty is standard, with a third free year offered every now and then...
     
  26. crazyanz

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    I would have said asus until i got my XPS M1530 im not a dell fan but they just got it right with the XPS M1530. good battery life (i find 3 hours with 6cell good) and good performance decent build and of course the right price !
     
  27. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    Don't have to state the obvious. ;)
     
  28. Fountainhead

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    Uh huh. Right. I'll put you down for a simple "Dell Roolz."

    By the way, great job on painting that XPS. You've definitely got some skills...and some serious guts to try it in the first place.
     
  29. EdiT808

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    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    I must be a dummy! What or who is Dell Roolz? :confused:

    I really didn't think a Dell especially a M1530 is a fair comparison to a Asus.
    In my opinion, the M1530 is superiour in every way. But then again, I feel that way comparing my Corvette to a Ford.

    Thanks for the compliment on my paint job. :D
     
  31. Fountainhead

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    It's sharp, that's for sure.

    I was slightly torn between the Asus M50sv-a1 and the M1530. The M50sv is spec'd very similarly to the Dell. What won out for me was the form factor of the M1530 and also my familiarity with Dell in general. It was just a more comfortable purchase for me personally.

    But Asus has some nice machines as well. If I hadn't gone with the XPS, I'd definitely have snagged that M50.
     
  32. Sherman90

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    I traded my G1S-A1 for a very, very similarly spec'd Inspiron 1520 + $350. Biggest jump was from a DDR3 in the A1 to a DDR2 in the Inspiron.

    I wouldn't take it back. I never felt comfortable on the Asus; conversely, I really enjoy using my Dell.
     
  33. lancerr

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    Oh - don't forget weight. Huge fan of Asus, but they tend to be heavy suckers. The comparable laptops to 1530 seem to be at least a lb heavier.