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    Design flaw on XPS M1330

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Artie Lange, Aug 19, 2007.

  1. Artie Lange

    Artie Lange Notebook Consultant

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    If the laptop is tilted or in any way placed down on its back corners, it is not the lower part that hits (like on all laptops), it is the screen.

    The reason I noticed the damage this can do is at a Dell stand at a mall (Queens Center, NYC) the M1330 was not working because the lower left corner (silver, part of top) was broken and semi-detached from the black (back of bottom).

    9-cell would definitely help this situation.
     
  2. CodeMonkeyX

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    So what you are saying is if you drop the laptop on it's corner it will break? I think a lot of laptops would break. I can not see the hinge breaking if you just place it down at an angle.
     
  3. Artie Lange

    Artie Lange Notebook Consultant

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    I actually did see the broken hinge. The difference is, every other laptop has an interior hinge. This one is not only exterior, but the entire corner.

    There are many ways this can break, even if its in a bag and the bottom gets hit sideways; with other laptops, the entire bottom case absorbs the impact. With this, it is all hinge.
     
  4. jhomara

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    Well, it looks cool. Easy to market that way.
     
  5. Zetto

    Zetto Notebook Deity

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    jeez, u knock around any laptop hard enough, they'll break. 1330 is no more or less susceptible to damage than any other laptop. Don't like the design, don't buy it, there, problem solved.

    BTW, display models of anything are frequently damaged due to rough handling by all the would-be buyers ;) Doesn't mean it's gonna break in ur bag, especially if u don't shove 1330 w/o a sleeve or something in the midst of sharp-cornered heavy objects :laugh:
     
  6. jimmy_simms

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    Well if you are worried, get three years total warranty. Which is what I am definetly going to get after spending the amount I will on the M1330.
     
  7. tsunamifury

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    Wow you could tell a design flaw on a magnesium alloy computer from an empty plastic mock up? ... impressive.
     
  8. Artie Lange

    Artie Lange Notebook Consultant

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    :rolleyes:

    Take another look. The hinges are unprotected. Let me make it a little easier for you to understand. Hit this laptop on the corner when its closed, and the top part (Silver) detaches from the bottom part (Black).

    Any and every other laptop does not have this flaw.
     
  9. The_Duke_Of_Eli

    The_Duke_Of_Eli Notebook Guru

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    Let me make it a little easier for YOU to understand:

    Take any other notebook. Hit at corner near hinge. Screw up notebook. Thread ended.
     
  10. chuck232

    chuck232 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Okay, first off, 'placing' it on its back corners will not cause this to happen. If you drop it on the back corner, sure, but then again, you've probably broken other stuff as well. The design does mean the possibility of more damage to the screen when you drop it, but it's hardly a design flaw. Laptops aren't made to be dropped last I checked.
     
  11. TechIsCool

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    except tough book lol... right
     
  12. CodeMonkeyX

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    Yeah the toughbook is just a big ball of rubber. :)
     
  13. Zetto

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    ROFL! So true, OP has no clue, I mean all he wants to do is to bash 1330 for no apparent reason... Man, human stupidity has no bounds! :laugh:
     
  14. FrontierDriver284

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    Uhhhh... absolutely not. This is so far off base it's not even funny. The M1330 does not ever rest on the screen hinges. There's no design flaw. Go back and have another look. I just hit my M1330 on the hinge and the screen didn't fall off. What am I doing wrong :confused:

    Maybe the M1330 you looked at was resting on the hinge because it was already broken. But please, no one get any ideas from this because it's completely wrong.
     
  15. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think he meant you can't open it 180 degrees, and the display model was opened at 180 so the hinge snapped off. The 9 cell which sticks out prevents the LCD from going any further then 150 degrees, is being recommended.



    I think thats what this is about...
     
  16. BertieW

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    Light notebooks like m1330 are made to travel and things get bashed around. As a matter of fact, I don't own a laptop that isn't very seriously scuffed and banged on the corners. (They are all still a-ok btw, Eli, don't you fret!) I didn't think really to take extra care with the corners of my m1330 when traveling. Thanks to the OP, I will now.


    When I read the original post, I read "There might be a problem with the hinge"
    Zetto and Duke of Eli must have read "You're stupid for owning one!"

    Seriously, a critique of a dell computer does not equal personal attack on YOU. People need to get a grip.
     
  17. Artie Lange

    Artie Lange Notebook Consultant

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    Good luck with that. I've never seen a laptop where a corner hit (from the top, side, or diagonally) could potentially detach and disable the entire screen (as I witnessed in the Dell kiosk). The key word being "corner", which should always be the most sturdy part, is now the most vulnerable.

    They have very low reading-comprehension :)