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    E1405 for girlfriend, what do you think?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Slufa111, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. Slufa111

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    Inspiron E1405, Intel Core Processor SOLO T1350 (2MB/1.86GHz/533MHz)
    14.1 Inch TrueLife Wide-screenWXGA+, for Inspiron 640M/E1405
    1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM 533MHZ,2 DIMM for Inspiron 640M/E1405
    Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950 GM, for Inspiron 640M/E1405
    80GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive for Inspiron 640M/E1405

    Total price: 709 dollars.

    She is only doing word processing, multimedia, and IM and stuff. Will that be faster than an AMD Sempron? Good deal? Thanks :)
     
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    I think you can get around the same for a bit cheaper if you look in the Sunday paper deals page for Best Buy, Comp USA, Office Max, etc...
     
  3. Iron Eagle

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    Do go with a dual core processor... there will be a limited price difference.
     
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    i just got mine - similar specs... 1.5 gig of ram, 120 hard drive, 1.83 ghz core 2 duo, 9 cell battery... have no regrets. great machine!
     
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    why dont you look at DELL Outlet. notebooks are like brand new so u cant tell the difference ( especially reffurbished)
    i got core duo/1GB/100GB for 669. and it looks as the new ones.
     
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    Well similar deals at like Best Buy and stuff I am using my Dell credit.

    Can you show me where the limited price difference is with Core Duo?
     
  7. Iron Eagle

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    I just went to Dell Outlet and found these for you. There are three different categories in the Outlet. Here is a detailed description of the three. Generally speaking people have had great experiences with the Outlet. The ones you see at the top are nothing but new machines, while "Certified Refurbished" machines may be just as new/function just as well at an even cheaper price.
     

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    Too bad I cant ****ing cancel my order.. stupid me :(
     
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    Why is that?
     
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    just have to warn you that the load up time is ridiculously long - about 3 minutes from startup to when the lappy can actually do work. It's pretty fast after that - i had no noticeable lag when i ran photoshop, open office, firefox and mcafee.
     
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    Cant cancel until Monday right?

    Is there a cancel button :)
     
  12. Iron Eagle

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    Oh is that the case? I'm not sure but I thought there is a way to cancel online. When I ordered mine I didn't have to cancel so I never really paid attention to it. But even if you can't cancel now, you have 21 days to return the machine once you have received it.
     
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    Well I can chat with a CS rep and they can cancel it for me.
     
  14. Iron Eagle

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    Just shop around in the Outlet for a couple of days. Sometimes you'll find great deals and other times you'll see something totally not worth the price. Good luck!
     
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    But you know what I am sure the SOLO is fine for what she is going to be doing.....not a huge difference. Might be a big difference to me since I got a E1505 with T7200 lol
     
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    You're absolutely right. In fact, if Word processing, Internet browsing and IM is all she will be doing then even a good Pentium M will do. Having a dual core makes the rig a little more future proof, however, so that now she can use Word, be on IM, zip a couple of files, run a Windows update, and run a virus scan all at once! Plus, if you can get a better one with about the same price (if not cheaper), why not go that route? :)
     
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    True.. Hmmm. This si what ill do, within 21 days she doesnt like it or it is slow or not able to use her stuff correctly then ill send it back and get a better one. Love the 21 day return policy
     
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    Are there any benchmarks to show just how much of a difference there is SOLO and DUO?
     
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    the main speed increase you will see from a duo would be in multitasking, if the machine is largely going to be used as a unittasker, it wont make any difference for the most part, however, the future is dual core, and software companies are starting to take advantage of multithreading, I'd go dual core, I'd also cancel the 1405 and take a hard look at the 1501, amds chips lag a little in benchmarks, but they do hold their own in real world applications, and they have the ati x1150 graphics chip, wich smokes the gma 950
     
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    I agree. If you're not dead set on a 14.1", then you might as well go with a 15.4". It will offer a much better GPU, at around the same price as a 1405 according to the Outlet.
     
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    Yeah, she wants a small laptop. Shes not very strong so 6LBS is too much :p
     
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    as I stated earlier, dual core shines in multi tasking, in unitasking, the solo will actually be slightly faster, but fire up a couple programs at once, the solo will be on its knees beggong for mercy, and the duo will be begging for more, look at it this way, say you have to 200 sandwiches, traditionally dual core wouldnt help,you would just have one core working on it, if the app is programmed for multi threading, then both cores go to work on it and it gets done much quicker, then there is the case where you need 200 sandwiches, and 200 cookies, one core working on both would be really slow, but with a dual core, one makes the sandwiches, while the other makes the cookies at the same time.
     
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    Which processor is the best price verus performance in the 1501 territory?
     
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    The 1501 only offers AMD chips and was just introduced, while the 1504 offers Intel chips.
     
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    I'd go for the xps m1210 in the outlet then, you can get one with a core duo, sometimes a core2duo, 1 gig ram, hd and optical vary, and the intel gma 950 from low to mid 800's, every now and then you see them in the upper700's, 12.1" screen, right around 4lbs, I recently got one through the outlet with a core2duo t5600,2gigram, and a gf7400, its by far been my most satisfying computer purchase, and I've made a lot of them
     
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    AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-50
    Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
    UPGRADE TO WINDOWS VISTA Express Upgrade to Windows Vista Home Premium from XP Media Center Edition
    15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA Display with TrueLife™
    1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
    60GB Hard Drive
    24X CD Burner/DVD Combo Drive
    ATI RADEON® Xpress1150 256MB HyperMemory™ (Integrated)

    Total: 781
     
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    turion x2 TL-50
     
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    I just wanted to recommend the same thing.

    Iceman, I've seen several of your posts recommending that laptop. I'm really in love with it as it is IMHO the best looking Dell laptop. I really want to get one, but I don't know how well I would cope with the 12.1" screen. Do your eyes get tired after a long duration?
     
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    I was afraid of that, but no, its a super high res screen for its size,1280 by 800 so you get the same amount of real estate as a standard 15.4, its incredibly sharp and bright, I actually have to turn down the brightness a few clicks , I went from a 15.4" 1680 by 1050, so I was missing the real estate,but I adjusted to that pretty quickly as well, the only issue I have with it, and I got used to it pretty quickly is the viewing angles arent forgiving at all, but you adjust your work habits pretty quickly to compensate, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the m1210 is the best overall laptop in my opinion on the market , loads of power,strong graphics option, super portable, surprisingly low heat if you take over the fans, great battery life, and through the outlet you can find some really good deals, I got mine for under a just under a grand shipped, I say go for it
     
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    Hows this?

    AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL-50
    Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
    UPGRADE TO WINDOWS VISTA Express Upgrade to Windows Vista Home Premium from XP Media Center Edition
    15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA Display with TrueLife™
    1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
    60GB Hard Drive
    24X CD Burner/DVD Combo Drive
    ATI RADEON® Xpress1150 256MB HyperMemory™ (Integrated)

    Total: 781
     
  31. Iron Eagle

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    Yeah I just saw one yesterday. 2Ghz C2D with 2GB RAM and GF7400 all for $1200 with tax and shipping included. I was very very tempted, but needed a good excuse to buy it because I just got my E1705 three months ago. Thanks for your expertise - now I want one even more.

    Alright, sorry for hijacking this thread. We are back on track.
     
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    That's pretty good, for $80 more you got a much more capable machine. However one thing that bothers me with the 1501 is the absence of the media buttons. I have no idea why Dell took those out.
     
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    Ok How about this. My MAX Budget is 800 dollars, think you could piece together a configuration for me?

    E1405 would be prefered
     
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    I would try and hold off, add an extra 100 to your budget,and grab an outlet m1210,if small and light is what your looking for, with loads of power. When do you need to order? there arent any listed in the outlet right now, but that doesnt mean there arent any, people shove them all in the cart to keep others from getting them while they look at them, pisses me off, I'll keep 2 or 3, then if I know I wont buy one, I put back out, all during last week there were tons of them on the page, more than I've ever seen, you can also call them, tell them the features your looking for and your price range, and they can usually hook you up with what you want if you have realistic expectations, good luck

    note, outlet purchases carry the same warranty and extended warranty options as configure yourself machine, you just cant change the hardware/software options, and as a big +, they usually ship the day you order
     
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    I have to order by tomorrow. My budget isnt moving because it is from my Preferred account. Could you please help me? I really want the E1405 because she wants new..(I know I know) but thats the way she is. SO What are the best E1405 specs for about 815?
     
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    get a better CPU (maybe the 1.83 GHz) and get the lowest ram. You can always upgrade ram later.
     
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    On second thought... why not get her an compaq v3000z?

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    Processor AMD Turion(TM) 64 X2 Dual-Core TL-56(1.8GHz/512KB)
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    Display 14.1" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)
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  38. Iron Eagle

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    If you want to consider machines in the Outlet, then you can get better configurations for the same price. If you really want a new machine, then this is what I just configured on Dell's website for $814 before tax and shipping:

    My Components
    Intel® Core™ Proc Duo T2050 (1.60GHz/533MHz/2 X 1MB L2 Cache)
    Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
    No Express Upgrade to Windows Vista Selected
    14.1 inch WXGA+ UltraSharp™ TFT Display with TrueLife™
    1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
    80GB Sata Hard Drive
    24X CD Burner/DVD Combo Drive
    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950
    Integrated Audio

    My Accessories
    53 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
    Dell Wireless 1390b/g (54Mbps)
    No Broadband Expresscard technology is available in the market now

    My Software
    No productivity suite- Includes Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
    No Security Subscription
    Trial pack- Basic and trial products from Corel and Yahoo

    My Service
    1Yr Ltd Warranty and At-Home Service
    6 Months America Online Internet Access Included

    Also Includes
    Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
    Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0
    Inspiron E1405 Dual Core
    Windows Vista™ Capable

    Unfortunately the price is too low to be eligible for Dell coupons.
    Intel Core Duo Processor
     
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    most of the machines in the outlet are new, you have the refurbs, that went out and got sent back, then you have previous ordered/ order that never shipped out, and scratch and dent, wich may or may not have left the factory, most of them are brand new and never shipped, they just get slightly banged up in the manfacturing process, my s&d e1505 had a small hairline scratch on the lid that took me 1/2 an hour to find, never would have noticed it if I werent looking for it, below is a refurb, but its fully loaded and just under 800


    Inspiron 640m / E1405
    (System Identifier: EZ1GF70P)


    Inspiron 640m/E1405 Notebook: Intel Core Duo processor T2300 (2MB Cache/1.66GHz/667MHz FSB)
    Genuine Windows XP Media Center 2005

    System Price : $799.00

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    Operating System
    Genuine Windows XP Media Center 2005
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    Memory
    2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz (2 DIMMs)
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    Hard Disk Drive
    160 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
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    Video
    Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950
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    Software Upgrade
    Trend Micro PC-cillin with AntiVirus and Spyware removal 36-months
    Sound Blaster Audigy ADVANCED HD Audio Software Edition
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    Certified Refurbished
    Certified Refurbished
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    Base
    Inspiron 640m/E1405 Notebook: Intel Core Duo processor T2300 (2MB Cache/1.66GHz/667MHz FSB)
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    Media Bay
    8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
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    Network Interface Card
    1390 Wireless Card
    Internal NIC/56K Modem
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    NoteBook Screen
    14.1 inch WXGA+ Notebook Screen
    Software
    Music Match 10.1 Software
    Adobe Acrobat 7.0 Reader
    ISP Search Assist
    ONLINE TRAINING
    Support Software
    Symantec PC Backup-90 Day
    Wild Tangent Gaming Client
    Net Zero ISP
    Image Restore Software
    ISP Software
    Microsoft Works 8.5
    Service Software
    AOL ISP Software
    AOL 8.0 ISP Software
    Dell Media Experience Basic
    Photo Album 6.0 Starter
    AOL ISP Software
    Dell Direct Download
    Service Software
    Operating System CD
    Roxio Creator, My DVD LE
    AOL 9.0 ISP Software
    Sonic Cineplayer
    Windows Media Player
    AOL 9.0 ISP Software
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    Misc
    65W Adapter
    Shipping Material
    6 Cell Primary Battery
    Processor Label
    Hinge Cover
    Processor Label
    Notebook Keyboard
    AOL Software Documentation
    Processor Label
    Shipping Material
     
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    I would miss having the volume buttons, but I think it actually looks a lot cleaner without them, this is just a guess, but I think the media direct buttons connect directly to the mother board, while Dell is experimenting with amd systems, they arent going all out with custom mobos yet,the connector would be a custom part on the board, there by no media buttons
     
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    Operating System
    Genuine Windows XP HomeMemory
    1 GB DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
    120 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)Video
    Intel Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator 950Software Upgrade
    McAfee SecurityCenter with VirusScan, Firewall, Spyware Removal, 24-monthsBase
    Inspiron 640m/E1405 Notebook: Intel Core Duo processor T2300 (2MB Cache/1.66GHz/667MHz FSB)Media Bay
    8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capabilityNetwork Interface Card
    Intel Pro Wireless 3945
    Internal NIC/56K ModemNoteBook Screen
    14.1 inch WXGA+ Notebook ScreenPreviously Ordered New
    Previously Ordered New

    786 + shipping
     
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    very nice, looks like a winner
     
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    I see. Never thought of it that way... that's probably why. Thanks for the clarification.
    Congrats, that looks like the perfect system... but grab it fast!
     
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    It got sold before I could buy it.

    How this? I configured a 640M through small business

    Intel® Core™ Proc DUO T2050 (1.60GHz/533MHz/2 X 1MB L2 Cache)
    Genuine Windows® XP Home
    Upgrade to Windows Vista Home Basic from XP Home, $55 payable at redemption
    14.1 inch WXGA+ UltraSharp™ TFT Display with TrueLife™
    1GB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz, 2 Dimm
    80GB Sata Hard Drive
    24X CD Burner/DVD Combo Drive
    Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 950
    Dell Wireless 1390 Mini Card (802.11b/g, 54Mbps)
    Integrated Audio
    Media Direct 3.0

    781 including shipping and TAX
     
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    vista home basic is a waste, aside from the splash screen, you wont notice anything different than xp.That system isnt bad, but you can do a lot better for the same price, I'd lurk around the outlet a little longer, and throw anything promising in your cart, then discard when your sure you dont want them, just set the filters for PON, and whatever you want the minimum of your components to be, I'd set the cpu to all, and keep hitting the submit button, the site updates constantly, one minute there isnt squat,the next minute theres a flood of them, next minute squat, good luck
     
  46. Iron Eagle

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    Yeah in Dell's Outlet you only have 15 minutes to buy an item before it becomes availabe to others.

    If you are going with an E1405, then you have basically the following options:

    - TrueLife? I definitely like TL but whether or not your GF likes it is another thing. Maybe you have TL on your E1505 and can show her the effects of it. Also, with a screen capable of a higher resolution you can always turn it down, while if you get a screen with a lower native resolution you are stuck with it.

    - Go with the lowest option of RAM and upgrade aftermarket. 1GB is the lowest option for the E1405 I believe.

    - Intel GMA 950 - you don't have much of a choice here

    - It might be hard to enjoy Vista at its fullest using GMA 950. I recommend getting another machine and a better GPU if she really wants Vista. Otherwise, go with XP as 1. your CPU is 32bit and 2. Vista is not yet a "mature" OS.

    - Either a 1.60Ghz or 1.73Ghz Core Duo would be sufficient and within your budget range. Sometimes you can be lucky and find better CPUs and still be within your range.

    - 80GB to a 100GB should keep you in your price range.

    Other than those mentioned above you really don't have many things to worry about. Just grab the best one you come across in the Outlet as quick as you can. I also recommend that you shop around in the Outlet for a few days before you purchase.
     
  47. Iron Eagle

    Iron Eagle Notebook Evangelist

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    Iceman, Dell Outlet says that an item will become available to others after 15 minutes of inactivity. Does that mean that as long as I modify a selection here or there the counter wouldn't start?
     
  48. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    yeah, you can keep items as long as you add/drop within 15 minutes, and windows vista home basic doesnt have areo anyway, pretty much all the new whiz bang features are left out, or will be made available for xp, so its pretty much a waste of 55 bucks
     
  49. Slufa111

    Slufa111 Notebook Geek

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    Well like I will keep saying, this is for my girlfriend so... will that machine do basic things fast and not lag? Web searching, Itunes, Burning CDs and watching videos.

    Well I dont have to upgrade to Windows Visa if I dont want to but if she ever did want Vista it would be better to buy basic for her at 55dollars instead of the 199 i think its retailed at.

    Come on I have to at least have a better PC then my gf to have some self-confidence :)
     
  50. jhu

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    Yeah.. it's fine. Like i said, the load time is long, but after that any core 2 system handles multitasking really well.
     
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