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    E1505: Would you pay extra for X1600 option?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by count_schemula, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    Would you have paid extra for an X1600 option?

    Would it have made the decision to buy an E1505 easier, or are you even putting off an E1505 over this?

    HP offers the X1600 in a 15" and the X1600 also does not have the shared Hypermemory configuration of the X1400. The X1600 has 256MB dedicated. Apple also uses a downclocked X1600 in their MacBook Pro.

    Vista is also coming out, which will want to gobble up GPU power.

    Say the option was:

    Integrated $0
    X1300 $50
    X1400 $100
    X1600 $175

    Would you have paid it?
     
  2. compsavy

    compsavy Notebook Deity

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    I would have for maybe 150 but for 200. I dunno that sounds kind of steep to me
     
  3. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    I'm not sure about the real pricing structure. I just know the 7900GS is $300 on the E1705.

    I made it $175... still a decent premium over X1400. :dunno
     
  4. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    But don't forget about the Dell coupons and whatnot...it would still be a sweet deal.
     
  5. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    Absolutely.
     
  6. Reezin14

    Reezin14 Crimson Mantle Commander

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    I would pay the extra, I've the x1400 in my notebook and wish I would've got the 7900 gs when ordering, the x1600 is twice as good as the x1400.
     
  7. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    Even though I want a new 12-14" I might grab one just for the heck of it, if it had the X1600.
     
  8. kenyee

    kenyee Notebook Guru

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    The hp6000t doesn't have an X1600 option AFAIK. Are you referring to a business model?
     
  9. Cool_Breeze

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    I definitely would pay somewhere around $200 for a x1600 gpu.
     
  10. lilredfoxie

    lilredfoxie Notebook Evangelist

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    I went with the X1300 and paid $79 back in May just to get me over the intel GMA, I dont game or do much with advanced 3d graphics. I just wanted an external GPU for that extra boost over the intel integrated stuff. If it was Radeon Express 200M or Nvidia 6150 as the base, I probably would have went with that, since I dont really need that much graphics power.
     
  11. count_schemula

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    Yeah, the nc8430 or something like that.
     
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    Yes, I am holding back on the E1505 because of graphics, I would have definitely bought it by now if it had an X1600 or a GF7600. Yes, I would pay 175. It is going very cheap with Core 2 Duo and all the other stuff except for graphics. I really don’t understand why they don’t have it. Asus has 7700 on a 14". :mad:
     
  13. Bobmitch

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    I have the E1505 with the x1400 and would have liked the x1600, but I am not complaining. I got the WSXGA+ 1680 x 1050 screen with truelife...and the visuals are beautiful! I am not a big gamer on the laptop. I have two older games on it...Half Life 2 / Far Cry. I run Far Cry at 1680 x 1050 with VERY High Detail...plays well. Half Life 2 same. I have enabled AAA so the visuals in the game are actually very appealing to the eye. No major slowdowns, etc. I play the newer, heavier games on my desktop...

    Bob
     
  14. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    I'm hoping to play BF1942, GTR, Civ III and Civ IV. So, I'm _ok_ with it.

    Just seems like the gulf between X1400 and 7900GS is too large, and also forces a change to a 17" laptop.

    Dell needs to step up and be a market leader, instead of a confused laggard.
     
  15. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Well, $175 for an X1600, I'd have to seriously think about that. If it was a 7600Go instead, I'd pay $200 easily.
     
  16. bmnotpls

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    I would pay for it if it was for an additional $100. AND I had 30% OR 50% off Coupon (kanadian).

    Since the avg laptop costs around $1300 so these individual _additional/upgrade components should not cost more than $100.

    Maybe there should be some formula to do this calculation:

    $ ( cpu% + hd% + graphics% + lcd_size% + lcd_type% + wireless% + peripherals% + zing_thing%) = 100% =~ $1300+-$200

    I was never known to be good at math.
     
  17. Kaijin

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    Ditto Sylvain, I would easily pay $200 extra (or more) for a 7600/7700 in an 15.4" or 14.1" inspiron or xps machine. I fear that Dell is holding out to make an AMD/ATi machine in this area with the x1600 and a dual core turion. I've had AMD's for 8 years but now that they've bought ATi I'm done with them. Intel is ahead AFAIK in the dual core race, and pairing that with a nVidia GPU provide the quality and performance that people in the market for a 15.4" high performance notebook are looking for. I may be a "fanboy", but I'm quite sure a lot of people feel the same way.
     
  18. n00dl3s

    n00dl3s Notebook Consultant

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    W/O a doubt, I'd spring for the option. I'm waiting to see if they offer something faster, at which time I'll call them and order the part.

    ~Josh
     
  19. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

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    poll is kinda flawed. The only people who could be bothered to enter the thread or vote are very interested in upgrading. ;)
     
  20. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    Yeah, most polls are gonna be flawed, it's just curious to see that if Dell offered it, people might would pay for it. The demand is probably there.

    I feel that the X1400 and 10/100 ethernet are part of the same ol' "planned obsolescence" theory of marketing long since pioneered by American industry.

    We have large hard drives and a lot of media files, yet there is no 10/100/1000 ethernet option. Vista is coming out which seems to be primarily focused on hogging system resources, yet they only offer an X1400 with Hypermemory.

    10/100/1000 ethernet and an X1600 256MB card and the E1505 is competing for best in class leadership, even if they are extra cost options.

    That said, I'm happy with my laptop so far. It plays my two main games (BF1942 and GTR) well.
     
  21. nmstang218

    nmstang218 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I would have payed that in a heart beat :D
     
  22. hmmmmm

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    i'd pay that in a pico second

    even if it was 200

    i mean its DOUBLE the power of the x1400 and would put it as the cheapest 15 inch with the x1600 and still get core 2 duo and stuff

    i don't get why sylivan would say that he'd pay 200 for the 7600 but not for the 1600 when the x1600 is slightly ahead of the 7600 go...
     
  23. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    Because for what I do, the 7600 is much more powerful than the X1600.
     
  24. Phillip

    Phillip Phillip J. Fry

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    Heck yeah I'd pay extra
     
  25. cmdematos

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    YES! YES! Up to $250.00 more in fact...

    Come on Michael Dell, pull your thumb out and make it happen!
     
  26. Cerebral

    Cerebral Notebook Geek

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    When i started looking for a notebook dells e1505 looked like a great deal...then when i found out that notebooks could come with a x1600 or 7600 my mind was changed practically instantly. It made me rule out dell completely...i want a mid size gaming notebook, x1400 to x1600/7600 seems to be a big enough jump. But if offered, i would pay more for it.
     
  27. Slufa111

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    That would depend how much of a difference there was. If it was small then probably not but if it was a great difference then more than likely.
     
  28. n00dl3s

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    Is this all hypothetical blah blah? Or is there actually a chance of this happening? I'd love to get a more powerful GPU into my 1505, just enough to run 2142, and CSS a little faster. Just wondering if anyone has some inside information?

    ~Josh
     
  29. count_schemula

    count_schemula Notebook Deity

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    Hypothetical.

    Just wanted to see if there was interest. If Dell reads these boards, and they might, they should see that people realize they are being a little second rate. With games being such a large market and with Vista coming out, it seems odd to skimp on something like the video card, which seems like such an easy build to order option.

    I like my X1400 within reason, but... X1600 would have made this laptop so much better in class. MacBook Pro uses it, HP nc8430 uses it, so, it's not like it's a weird rare part. The gulf between X1400 and 7900GS is so large and requires a jump to 17".
     
  30. Inikurmoma

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    I would definitly pay for a X1600 !!
     
  31. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Post it on

    http://www.ideastorm.com/
     
  32. Ur ex-wife

    Ur ex-wife Notebook Consultant

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    if i did get a X1600 to replace my X1400, then i would probably have to upgrade my processor too...haha....AND my hard drive!!!

    but yes, if it was offered at the time i bought my machine, i would have considered it first instead of the old Hp 8000, and nx9420 series since they both had 7600 and x1600

    however, since i was able to get my Dell for cheap, i went for it even though its graphics werent as good
     
  33. shaheenarshan

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    well an extra 75$ for an x1600 considering its roughly 2 times as powerful as the x1400 does sound quite tempting to me but i would have to downgrade another component suc as the hdd or the RAM in that case
     
  34. Redline

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    I would definitely go for such an option if it existed.

    Right now I'm contemplating a used E1505 and trying to swap in a Go7900GS from the E1705. Not the best idea, but it seems like an interesting engineering project.
     
  35. thejedimaster

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    I wouldn't put an ATI card in the E1505, so i'd recommend the GeForce Go 7600 instead...which is a notch higher..
    Also the price for the 7900GS right now for the E1705 is only an extra $200 not $300 like others say.. so I would only invest $100 for a card like this...
     
  36. khanhfat

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    they're preparing for Santa Rosa so hopefully they put a 8600 in theirmachine or something . 8400 card? i dont know the performance of this one.
     
  37. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm not too sure how the 8600 and the 8400 stack up against the X1600/7600. If the future E1505 is DX10 and is a half-way decent gaming card, I'm all for it.
     
  38. shaheenarshan

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    if they end up putting an 8600M GS at the least into the E1505 later i would be all for it in that case with the new slick chassis and the great GPU it would be virtually irresistable