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    For those who have the High piched Whine, Look at this

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by vengance_01, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    For those who have it, are you sure you have RMClock setup properly?

    In the first picture make sure to un-check the two options in the box. Also make sure you change your cpu type to mobile.

    In the second picture under the chipset area, you must check the two option in the red box on the right, and un-check the the single option on the left.

    Please feel free to ask me questions. I noticed that if I miss just one of these options, my 1330 has the famous whine. Once everything is configured properly its silent. Combine this with under volting my Core 2 chip, my notebook is completely silent under normal conditions.
     

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  2. jack53

    jack53 Dell XPS 9360 i7 Lover!

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    I don't have that famous whine I'm reading alot about, but if your solution does in fact solve the problem... your gonna be a HERO! :D

    Stuff like this is why I'm on this forum. :p
     
  3. Macpod

    Macpod Connoisseur

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    would this effect performance or stability? I have the whine as well but i can ignore it.
     
  4. Flyingraptor

    Flyingraptor Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'd already RMClock installed on my laptop, but with a configuration I read in one of those really big topics here on NBR about the CPU whine.
    I changed it now in your config... But when I disabled C4 mode and enabled C5 and 6 modes, and applied these settings... my PC freezed... totally blocked...
    Restarted and there didn't seem to be a problem... And it seems that the CPU whine is a lot less noticable...
     
  5. Ryaske

    Ryaske Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi! I had the whine .. HAD because this solution fixed it.

    The person above me , i thin kthey disabled something they shouldnt have .. I messed around with one setting and it froze my PC also. But the ones you listed in this thread worked just fine. I can enable/disable those and hear the whine come back immediately after I hit APPLY.

    I'm going to setup a profile that allows me to use c5 when I am mobile (as I am not often, but when I am I will deal with that tiny whine for the extra battery life)

    now I just have to exterminate the crickets inside of my power supply brick................

    THANKS!!
     
  6. imzomnia

    imzomnia Notebook Evangelist

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    I only have the whine when I use AC adaptor and the battery is below 50%.
     
  7. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    Great I am glad its working for people. I love my 1330. Bf far the best notebook I have owned, and once I got rid of the Whine, it became even sweeter. Whats sad is that in a quiet setting like a class, that whine is just down right loud. I almost returned my notebook till I read that the C4 state causes most of the issues.
     
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    Nope, just reduce battery life just a bit. Its not much and well worth it for complete silence. If anyone has questions bout under-volting there Core 2's, shoot me a PM and I can post a I guide latter today.
     
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    Did you change your cpu type to Mobile? RMClock defaults to Desktop type on every notebook I have installed it so far. Look at my first picture, shows you where to change this options.
     
  10. Ryaske

    Ryaske Notebook Enthusiast

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    i wonder what that setting (desktop vs. mobile) actually does?

    or is it a config setting for within Rightmark itself?
     
  11. vengance_01

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    Its important as Intel has different states setup for there mobile chips being more aggressive to consume less power. Also This setting will also determine what range of voltages are usable select at each multiplier when you are undervolting. So this setting is very important.
     
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    Just a warning... Mine was making the whine again, and I did this. It worked! I thought cool, I'll check the button to make it like this on startup. A few minutes later though, my M1330 crashed. I reboot, and it crashes on startup. Now it doesn't even boot into safe mode. It crashes on WMILIB.SYS. So I would recommend trying the fix, but don't click the option to make the changes on startup, just in case. Not a big deal for me since I just did a full system backup with Vista Ultimate. I'm going to system restore and try again.
     
  13. vengance_01

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    Hum Thats weird. Which version are you running?
     
  14. vengance_01

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    Are you running 64bit?
     
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    dave56 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm running the latest version of RM Clock and 32 bit Vista. I found that the problem was NTFS got corrupted when the system froze up hard. So actually it was related to RMClock crashing the system, but unrelated to clicking the startup option. I booted from the Vista Recovery CD and selected the Repair option. Did this twice, it ran chkdsk and repaired errors each time, then it booted up. But since my backup image was so recent I restored to that anyway.
     
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    Actually would be great please do you mind post down the best config you found?
    After all you figured out how to clean the whine using that program so once using it why now optimize for the best results? and as i can see there are other people having problem with it even needing to restore their computers...

    Thanks in advance Beto
     
  17. vengance_01

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    I think it was just a fluke. But yes I can post a guide. I will work on it tonight, and probably will post it tomorrow.
     
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    shameless bump as I am looking for more people to try the fix :D
     
  19. vengance_01

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    Bump, to the top.
     
  20. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    These states are part of Intel's battery saving technology on their processors. Disabling them is a work around which unfortunately has some undesirable side effects like lower battery life, higher heat, etc.

    If you use your notebook mostly as a desktop, should be fine though.
     
  21. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I think it unecessary for their to be a need for RMclock.

    There shouldn't be a whine to begin with.
     
  22. vengance_01

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    Then Obvisously you have not tried it. :rolleyes: It does not increase temperatures by any noticeable amount. Secondly I think my battery life decreased 10-15 mins at the most on the 9 cell. But I easily gained it back undervolting my cpu using the same program. There are no side effects if setup properly. Please do your homework. I am sick of people complaining about the whine and they send the notebook back just because of the noise when there is a clear easy fix for it. The more I look at this issues I feel this is just a bug with the chipset and Intel's Core 2 chips and less a Dell issue.
     
  23. vengance_01

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    Their is no need for Nuclear bombs, military, but **** happens. Crap like this happens all the time in this world. You just need to learn to deal with, or fix it. Plain and simple.
     
  24. Custen

    Custen Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am sorry to be a pain, but is there any chance you can put your "profile" page picture on rm clock just like the power states to show us how you undervolt the cpu.
     
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    wdro Notebook Evangelist

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    The fact that other notebooks have a less noticeable whine than the m1330, and the fact that many m1330 also have the southbridge whine suggest that the m1330 motherboard doesn't really accommodate the core 2 duo very well. Like another member, flamenko, said, if you take each component out of the notebook, it doesn't make any noise on its own.
     
  26. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    I've tried it. I use RM clock, I just don't disable CPU states with it.

    Still waiting for a version of RM clock that will properly support my T8300.
     
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    wdro Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried the settings recommended by the OP but my notebook keeps crashing :(
     
  28. vengance_01

    vengance_01 Notebook Deity

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    Show me a picture of your setup.
     
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    hey vengence, I also did the exact stup- based on your 2 pics and I checked several times to make sure everything is exactly the same, but after about 20 mins, the system crashes/freezes. I have to manually shut my computer down for it to work again? I have vista 32-bit T7500 m1330. any clue? Are there any other set-ups beyond these wo pics required to have a stable and nonfrezing windows (computer)?
     
  30. madflava54

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    Do you guys get the CPU whine when your CPU has to throttle up to handle multiple applications or a video file or something or when it is idle?

    When my computer (T9300) is idle, there seems to be minimal whining, but at max performance or doing some CPU intensive stuff, the whine is more noticeable. I am currently in power saver mode and it's not too bad especially with me typing away on my keyboard.
     
  31. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    My whine (T8300) is on idle (only occasionally). No issues when at higher speeds.
     
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    What? That's not even a good analogy. I agree we shouldn't have to use third-party applications to fix a problem the manufacturer is responsible for. But your settings are helpful, it does reduce the whine and make it much more easier to live with. Thank you!
     
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    That's weird. It's the opposite for me. Makes no sense.
     
  34. praneeth

    praneeth Sanath Jaya Suriya!!!

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    The classic CPU whine is supposed to be when the CPU goes into the sleep state which is when its on idle. If it whines at high speeds that is not the "classic" Intel centrino whine.
    EDIT: That is how this fix works too btw, stops the processor from sleeping.
     
  35. madflava54

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    Interesting. I wonder why mine whines at high speeds. My roommates with a MBP says his only whines when at high speeds as well. Battery saver mode kind of fixes the problem while High Performance guarantees whine. This is very interesting.
     
  36. raxen

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    My god... thank you so much for this thread. I was on the verge of returning my second replacement and getting a refund from dell altogether.

    Peace and quiet for 15 minutes and counting...
     
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    I don't have the whine with mine, I have the T9500.
     
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    Thanks for the excellent guide to sorting out this annoying problem!

    I was using the method of disabling popup and popdown but, while this helped, I was still getting whine.

    I have now made these changes and the whine has completely gone.

    I am a little concerned about battery life but I'm thinking of embarking on the undervolting adventure soon, although a little aprehensive about how to best approach it (I believe you keep lowering the voltage until hangs right?).

    Anyway, after making this change my CPU temperature while doing next to nothing is sitting between 52-55 degrees. This is just with the laptop sitting here with wifi on downloading the odd up dates for sidebar etc..

    Does this sound about right or have these changes had an effect on CPU temp?
     
  39. Kreeeee

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    A much better method is to not change all those settings but just disable popup and popdown.

    If that doesn't work then try these settings but popup/down is a better first choice.
     
  40. Kreeeee

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    Just change the settings back and recheck your temps.
     
  41. SlingShot

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    I was doing that but it was still whining to a level. Changing settings to the ones recommended by the OP has removed all whine.
     
  42. Kreeeee

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    That's fair enough but I think it should be added that you should try the popup/down option first as it has worked for some and doesn't reduce battery life/increase heat as much.
     
  43. SlingShot

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    Yes thats very true. I started with the Disable C4 mode but then changed to just disabled the 'Enable popup and popdown' functions. This worked to a level but not completely.

    I suppose the only thing with this setup is that popup and popdown are now enabled so hopefully that offsets the battery loss somewhat..
     
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    booyah vengance_01 - you rock. I changed my settings to match and it stopped the buzz instantly. It was the second screenshot setting where it vanished. Thanks a ton.
     
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    hmm - just crashed. did the popup/down thing and the whistle is now gone. hopefully no crashes now.
     
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    Hello,
    I am a little new to this forum, and I just wanted to see if there was a way to get rid of the whine without freezing my Dell XPS 1330. I followed the steps so kindly provided by Vengance, however, after hitting apply, my notebook immediately freezes. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know bc now not only is my notebook making a high pitched noise, but now its constantly freezing!

    Thanks
     
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    Did the setup that Vengence suggested and it seemed to eliminate all cpu whine on my M1330 however the fan is now running constantly and creating its own noise :(

    My CPU core temp is about 45 degrees C. Is that normal?
     
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    Do I have to go into the main settings tab and force RMClock to launch at startup or is it adequate that under Advanced CPU Settings I have the Apply these settings at startup checked?

    The way mine is setup now is that RM Clock does not run on startup but the CPU whine is gone.

    However when I open RM Clock I get the various icons in my taskbar.

    Which is the preferred method?
     
  49. vengance_01

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    Guys sorry for the long absence, But if anyone has any questions, Please feel free to post in here or PM me. I did not realize people were still using my method. I have had the same setup for months now and no issues.
     
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    Have RMClock launch on windows startup. Guys Who are having freezing issues, go under the settings tab and make sure to set startup from registry key and not the startup folder
     
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