Froget Vista Ultimate 64Bit, Workstation 2008 64bit here I come

http://weblogs.asp.net/israelio/archive/2008/02/21/windows-server-2008-as-workstation.aspx

i plan to try this out sometime soon. All reviews are saying performance wise it blows vista out of the water

 

true, but as they highlighted in the post, you'll be paying twice as much for the OS unless you've got some sort of special offer on it, and there are bugs and things to be wary of, it doesn't seem to be great at recognising peripherals like Video Cameras or MP3 players.

looks like alot of hassle in order to get a small speed boost, considering both are made with the same codebase unlike previous versions of server (as said on the link).

read the comments, tread lightly, don't get caught out, and good luck if you do decide to go for it =P

 

Vista is 98% Windows Server 2008 as it is. It has all of the same functionality. I seem to remember W2k workstation not having that great of a user experience either.

 

Whatever floats your boat. I don't know how exactly it blows away Vista since Windows Server 2008 and Vista were apart of the same code tree. You'll also run into issues with programs realizing you are running a server OS and may not function properly. I'll stick to Vista 64 bit especially since it is about a fourth the price of Server 2008.

 

well for one I have a technet subscription, so for all purposes the license for 2008 is free. There seems to be a mixed confusion about vista/longhorn having the same codebase. It clearly benchmarks faster, that is something everyone can agree on.

From what it looks like to me is that they removed all the bloatware that vista has which makes workstation run better(similar to an XP experience). Then ona case by case basis you can turn on the feature you need, instead of just having all the features running by default

as far as drivers and software, 99% of what works in vista works in workstation

 

And what bloatware would be installed? Everyone keeps saying this, yet they never point out anything specific.

 

He must be talking the aero interface, which is ridiculous to call bloatware.

If you want to live in the past, by all means do it. I suppose you're still using a Startac cell phone too?

 

here is your list in all its glory, i only assumed it to be common knowledge


I guess there is a few things HUH? Default these are all running, some you want (but dont need) and most you dont want. These are all disabled by disabling the corresponding service

read about by downloading the attached spreadsheet (free registration required)
http://downloads.techrepublic.com.com/abstract.aspx?docid=296633

Name
Application Experience
Application Information
Application Layer Gateway Service
Application Management
Background Intelligent Transfer Service
Base Filtering Engine
Block Level Backup Engine Service
Certificate Propagation
CNG Key Isolation
COM+ Event System
COM+ System Application
Computer Browser
Cryptographic Services
DCOM Server Process Launcher
Desktop Window Manager Session Manager
DFS Replication
DHCP Client
Diagnostic Policy Service
Diagnostic Service Host
Diagnostic System Host
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Distributed Transaction Coordinator
DNS Client
Extensible Authentication Protocol
Fax
Function Discovery Provider Host
Function Discovery Resource Publication
Group Policy Client
Health Key and Certificate Management
Human Interface Device Access
IKE and AuthIP IPsec Keying Modules
Interactive Services Detection
Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
IP Helper
IPsec Policy Agent
KtmRm for Distributed Transaction Coordinator
Link-Layer Topology Discovery Mapper
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X64
Microsoft .NET Framework NGEN v2.0.50727_X86
Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Service
Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider
Multimedia Class Scheduler
Net.Tcp Port Sharing Service
Netlogon
Network Access Protection Agent
Network Connections
Network List Service
Network Location Awareness
Network Store Interface Service
Offline Files
Parental Controls
Peer Name Resolution Protocol
Peer Networking Grouping
Peer Networking Identity Manager
Performance Logs & Alerts
Plug and Play
PnP-X IP Bus Enumerator
PNRP Machine Name Publication Service
Portable Device Enumerator Service
Print Spooler
Problem Reports and Solutions Control Panel Support
Program Compatibility Assistant Service
Protected Storage
Quality Windows Audio Video Experience
ReadyBoost
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Locator
Remote Registry
Routing and Remote Access
Secondary Logon
Security Accounts Manager
Security Center
Server
Shell Hardware Detection
SL UI Notification Service
Smart Card
Smart Card Removal Policy
SNMP Trap
Software Licensing
SSDP Discovery
Superfetch
System Event Notification Service
Tablet PC Input Service
Task Scheduler
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Telephony
Terminal Services
Terminal Services Configuration
Terminal Services UserMode Port Redirector
Themes
Thread Ordering Server
TPM Base Services
UPnP Device Host
User Profile Service
Virtual Disk
Volume Shadow Copy
WebClient
Windows Audio
Windows Audio Endpoint Builder
Windows Backup
Windows CardSpace
Windows Color System
Windows Connect Now - Config Registrar
Windows Defender
Windows Driver Foundation - User-mode Driver Framework
Windows Error Reporting Service
Windows Event Collector
Windows Event Log
Windows Firewall
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)
Windows Installer
Windows Management Instrumentation
Windows Media Center Extender Service
Windows Media Center Receiver Service
Windows Media Center Scheduler Service
Windows Media Center Service Launcher
Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service
Windows Modules Installer
Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache 3.0.0.0
Windows Remote Management (WS-Management)
Windows Search
Windows Time
Windows Update
WinHTTP Web Proxy Auto-Discovery Service
Wired AutoConfig
WLAN AutoConfig
WMI Performance Adapter
Workstation

 

Congratulations. You figured out how to print a complete list of all services installed in Windows by default. That article talks about securing Windows, not removing "bloatware."

Just because it can be disabled, doesn't mean its going to make your life easier. Furthermore, disabling ALL of these services is not going to make your experience XP like. XP has just as much JUNK in it as any other Windows OS.

This is the CORRECT list of services that CAN be disabled:

 

BTW here's the list of XP services you can disable:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tr/downloads/home/windows_xp_services_that_can_be_disabled.pdf

There are 45 services that can safely be disabled in XP vs. the 60 in Vista, but XP does alot less than Vista does. If you hate Vista so much, get a Mac. We won't miss you.

 

who said they hated vista? and I never said I wanted to disable EVERY service

from the best of what I can tell windows workstation runs absolutely no optional services. If vista/longhorn are truely the same codebase disabling as many services as you can and removing as many features as you can would only yield the 20% performance boost workstation 2008 claims to have

there is tons of articles about things to disable to make vista run faster. I was clearly only pointing out try workstation 2008 would be worth a try. There is without a doubt stuff running on vista that you dont need running/installed that will slow your machine down (ie. bloatware, sorry if I used that term too loosely)

 

First of all, I wasn't disagreeing with your original post, I was disagreeing with the "bloatware" statement. Vista is a user's interface, whereas a workstation OS would be more of a professional or technical interface. The average joe wouldn't benefit from disabling all of those services.