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    GeForce M8600GT HDMI/DVI question?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Merranza, Jan 8, 2008.

  1. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    I'm strongly considering getting an m1530 dell laptop and I was wondering one thing about the M8600GT vid card. If you check on Nvidia's site, they clearly state the card has "Dual-link DVI outputs for digital flat panel display resolutions up to 2560x1600" but dell's m1530 features an hdmi port only... This is my first laptop purchase ever so do they make any modification to the card so it fits in the m1530 or do you have acces to those DVI outputs directly?
     
  2. M1530

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    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for the info

    Do they actually modify the card since Nvidia says it has a DVI outputs?
     
  4. NissanSupraGTR

    NissanSupraGTR Notebook Evangelist

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    Do not buy cables at bestbuy/circuitcity/etc!
    Best bet for cables is monoprice.com
    just type in hdmi dvi in the search box and you'll find what you're lookin for, and itll be a hell of a lot cheaper (as in $4 vs. $60 for the bestbuy link above).
     
  5. M1530

    M1530 Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't know for sure but since it doesn't have the DVI. Most likely it's just a a mobile version of the 8600 so it just has diffrent ports to fit the diffrent uses of a laptop.

    Personaly I like the HDMI port on the M1530 because I'm getting the blu-ray and I can easily connect it to my HDTV.
     
  6. M1530

    M1530 Notebook Evangelist

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    I had it posted as a best buy link untill I saw the price at Best Buy .com I switched it to a amazon link there DVI to HDMI are in the 2-16 dollar range
     
  7. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Is there such a thing as cable quality to make sure you lose no quality?
     
  8. ThePug

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    HDMI is a digital connection. It works or it does not work. It's all 0 and 1's.
     
  9. lambchops468

    lambchops468 Notebook Evangelist

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    if you are wondering where exactly that dual DVI goes...

    There's a LDVS (the signaling spec of DVI) connection (the single or dual DVI, i don't think 15" res screens need dual) to the built in screen. In notebooks, the graphics card usually can't get close to the edges of the case, so they route the HDMI/LDVS and other signals through the properitary dell connector (probably based on some MXM spec, but with different pin placement) and through the motherboard to the HDMI header, S-Video Header, and to an internal header for the LCD.
     
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    You can get a higher quality cable that lasts longer but I don't think that it will affect the picture quality.
     
  11. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Ah thank you, that makes sense, so basically, I should not expect any problem to get the best out of my 22 inches LG screen (which probably is dual though)?
     
  12. lambchops468

    lambchops468 Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think so..........what res is your LG screen? i've seen hdmi to dual link dvi, but i don't know if the hdmi has to be dual link too, and if that means that there have to be 2 hdmi connectors......

    http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/hdmi-cables.html

    this site says that u need a 29 pin hdmi connector to get dual dvi.
     
  13. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Can someone that owns a m1530 can actually tell me how many pins the HDMI connectors has ? (19 for A and 29 for B)
     
  15. lambchops468

    lambchops468 Notebook Evangelist

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    i think you should be covered -- single link hdmi does up to 1080p, which is 30 pixels below your screen.
     
  16. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    A few things:

    1. Just because HDMI is digital doesn't mean that it's flawless. There is a picture and sound quality difference between a $5 cable and a $100 one, though usually not enough to justify the price.

    2. I don't know why you would need a dual-link DVI for your LCD. Maximum resolution for TVs (normally) is 1080p, which can easily be handled with HDMI and the 8600m GT.
     
  17. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    How do you transfer (calculate) a resolution to 1080p?
     
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    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    It's 1920x1080 or 16:9.
     
  19. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    I'll be honnest, I'm not a guru in all this modern technology, I've been back on the market after a 5 yr drought of buying anything. I got my new lcd screen about a month ago and the main goal was to acquire a laptop to be able to use my screen when I'm at home and still be able to carry my laptop around when needed. I bought a dual dvi cable to connect my new lcd screen on my current desktop (which will be replaced by my laptop) just to make sure as they were saying the *dual part* of the cable would enable in case it was needed. After having spent 300$ on that screen and making sure it was a 2ms time response one, I didn't wanted to create a problem just because of the cable, hence the reason I would not want to *lower* anything now that I would be stuck with a type A HDMI adaptor. I'm just asking since I'm not that good in that new technology like I was saying :)
     
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    O RLY?

    10char
     
  21. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Just sounds really weird to me that you pay for a 8600 gt which has "Dual-link DVI outputs for digital flat panel display resolutions up to 2560x1600" and that because Dell puts it into one of their laptop with an HDMI type A adaptor, you get back to single link.
     
  22. Lithus

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    An 8600 GT is different from an 8600m GT. An 8600m GT only offers support for DVI-D. It doesn't have "Dual-link DVI outputs". Not to mention that you don't even need it.
     
  23. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    http://www.nvidia.com/object/geforce_8600M_techspecs.html

    Advanced Display Functionality

    * Dual-link DVI outputs for digital flat panel display resolutions up to 2560x1600
    * Dual integrated 400MHz RAMDACs for analog display resolutions up to and including 2048x1536 at 85Hz
    * Integrated HDTV encoder provides analog TV-output (Component/Composite/S-Video) up to 1080i/1080p resolution
    * NVIDIA nView® multi-display technology capability
    * 10-bit display processing

    I'm not the one stating it, Nvidia does ;)
     
  24. Lithus

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    Well, then they missed the asterisk stating that it's up to the computer manufacturer to actually provide physical outputs.
     
  25. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Yup and as I can see, your Asus does not have this issue
     
  26. Lithus

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    ? It has the same HDMI as the m1530.
     
  27. Merranza

    Merranza Notebook Consultant

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    Don't you have a natural DVI-D output though?
     
  28. Lithus

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    Just HDMI and VGA.
     
  29. Merranza

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    The old G1 did, the G1s does not. They probably got the specs from an older G1 model.
     
  31. Merranza

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    Ok, anyway it's not that big of a fuss if it's not needed to run on my 22 inches screen :)
     
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    Hey guys,

    I have a Dell 3007WFP which does require DVI-D. I'm considering this laptop. But I really want to drive the LCD with my laptop. Has anyone actually hooked these two up? or hooked up the m1530 to a display that requires DVI-D (other 2560x1600 monitors)?

    Thanks,