The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
 Next page →

    Geforce Go 7300 available for E1505 now

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Ninjak, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. Ninjak

    Ninjak Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    135
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Noticed it was up on the configuration options today. While it's nice that Dell's offering an Nvidia option for the system now, I'm definitely disappointed to see that it's a rather anemic one. Though this was expected when seeing that the new BIOS added Go 7300 support, I'm definitely happier having the X1400, being the stronger chip (though many of us would like an X1600 instead). I did notice Dell's doing its interesting pricing scheme, though, trying to get people excited about the chip. They're actually charging $129 for the upgrade to it as opposed to $99 for the X1400, incredibly. Unless there's an Nvidia enthusiast looking for some particular feature, it'd suck to go in there uninformed and wind up paying more for a weaker gpu.
     
  2. NOSintake

    NOSintake Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    519
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    havent seen it yet...but why would u want to introduce something worse? im happy that i got a x1400 too. now if they put a x1600, then i would be upset. haha
     
  3. adpirz

    adpirz Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    6
    Messages:
    121
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    heh, it is true, it's 30 bucks more expensive than a more powerful GPU. someone somewhere is gettin gyped.
     
  4. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,080
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The Go7300 is an interesting option, and odd that it costs more. It is about as fast as the Radeon X1300.
     
  5. hotctyplaya

    hotctyplaya Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    And I bet there will be many buyers who will think the 7300 is the best option and will select it. Dell will make their money off it.
     
  6. Ninjak

    Ninjak Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    135
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Yup. I sense there will be a handful of angry users who discover the truth only after they've received their systems. With Dell's home systems marketed primarily to the average non-technical consumer, most will, indeed, glance at the list and choose the 7300 thinking it's got to be better since it costs the most. Especially all the "back to school" parent shoppers getting one for their student. At least Dell didn't label it with the lime green "Dell Recommended" highlighting.
     
  7. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    why couldnt they just have added the x1600....darn

    I wonder if they are going to be putting a higher card in teh E1505.
     
  8. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

    Reputations:
    1,133
    Messages:
    3,548
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    I kinda doubt they'll put anything faster in it due to heat and size constrainsts
     
  9. ObSean

    ObSean Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Unless Dell made the case really thin (I don't know, I don't own an e1505) this doesn't seem like a valid point. Asus has two 14" laptops with powerful video, the w3j with an x1600 and the a8jm with the 7600go, also Compal is coming out with the HEL30 (I think that's the model number) which is also 14" with 7600go. Not to mention many other laptops that are 15.4" and have similarly powerful graphics cards. Dell just doesn't cater to the high end with their Inspiron series (besides perhaps the e1705), and they have no 14-15" XPS. I know if they had a 14" with a 7600 or x1600, I might have bought that instead of an M1210, especially if I could get it with a 1440x900 screen.
     
  10. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    it's such a shame not to see an 7600 or x1600 in the E1505...

    I like the size of the 15.4 but the graphics of the E1705.
     
  11. Rellik

    Rellik Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I think it's nice that they're offering an nVidia option! Don't know why it's priced so much higher, and I agree it's misleading, but for some it's a better option than grappling with ATI's Linux drivers (although I heard that they've released better ones for the x1000-line recently, or something to that effect)

    rydude07, unless you prefer Dell for their rather inexpensive warranties and Complete Care, you can find plenty of very nice 15.4" laptops with x1600's and 7600's for rather reasonable prices! You should have seen what the Acer 5672 with x1600 was going for... nearly beat out the E1505 on its own turf: price!
     
  12. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    well the thing is, dell is definately the cheapest. As I can get 2.0 ghz duo, 2 gb ram 533 mhz, x1400, 100 gb hard drive 7200 rpm, bluetooth, 15.4 inch screen SxGA+ true life, dvd burner,9 cell battery, microsoft word, xp media center for 1177.

    The main reason for dell and the lower gpu is this price. I wonder if I should still wait and see if i can get a better deal on the dell in later july...

    Was the acer 5672 cheaper than this price with these specs? ;) I didnt really think so.
     
  13. Rellik

    Rellik Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Nope! That's why I said it *nearly* beat it. But it was much closer than you'd expect, especially given that it had an x1600! Take off about a hundred dollars and bring down the specs to "pretty good", and you've got the deal on the Acer :p
     
  14. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    good point...hmm but i woudl have to bring down the specs a lot.
    like bring it down to duo 1.6 instaed of 2.0 , 1 gb ram instead of 2, it has home and not media, the dells hd is faster BUT the acer has abetter card.

    I think all in all, I'll probably go with the dell. But thanks for your input, it was great!

    Now i just dont know when is the best time to get my dell ;)
     
  15. NOSintake

    NOSintake Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    3
    Messages:
    519
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    id rather have better card...just cause u cant really update it. but u can update the parts. but im lazy, and i got a dell. besides, i dont do hard gaming...so the x1400 will work just fine
     
  16. Ebs757

    Ebs757 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Ok, I am planning on buying the E1505 soon but i cant decide wether to choose the X1400 or GeForce. Im going to be playing MS FS alot what will work best?
     
  17. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    go with the x1400 if you want to game with higher games
     
  18. Ebs757

    Ebs757 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Can you explain why?
    thanks in advance
     
  19. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i think it scores higher at like 3dmark or something..im not an expert, but I know that x1400 is a better card.
     
  20. lowlymarine

    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    401
    Messages:
    1,422
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    56
    The x1400 is a marginally more powerful card in DirectX applications than the Go7300, although forget about OpenGL games like Quake 4 or Prey - I'm not sure what "MS FS" is, but if my guess that it's Microsoft Flight Simulator is correct, then definitely go with the x1400, as I doubt MS would program in OpenGL rather than their own Direct3D API.

    The Go7300 really is only the better option if you a)plan to run a *nix OS or b)play almost exclusively OpenGL games (Doom 3, Quake 4, Prey, and anything based on the Quake III engine, to name a few).
     
  21. jujube

    jujube Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    181
    Messages:
    1,072
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Maybe there's another aspect we should look at here: Is the 7400 an upgradable GPU? If so, there could be compelling reasons to get the 7400 for future upgrade?
     
  22. Ebs757

    Ebs757 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If im correct, if you change hardware your warranty is void right?
     
  23. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I dont know if its upgradable..But i know its hard or near to impossible to change gpus by oneself.
     
  24. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    unless you are gonna use linux, get the ATI
    i have that exact laptop, and the linux drivers suck.
    it's great on windows though
     
  25. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,080
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Advice - do not buy a laptop and plan to upgrade the GPU.

    The Dell E1505 is a mid-range machine. The Go7300/X1400 and other options all require a relatively little amount of power. Putting in anything higher, such as a Go7600/X1600 would not be probably not be possible because the cooling system can only handle so much. There are also power issues to contend with.
     
  26. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    there's your answer guys. thanks chaz!
     
  27. Ebs757

    Ebs757 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    thanks guys
     
  28. Ninjak

    Ninjak Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    135
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Since they're charging $30 extra for the 7300 over the X1400, can you imagine what premium they'd charge for a 7400 if they offered it?
     
  29. Mark_J_Fletcher

    Mark_J_Fletcher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hmmm... I bet when Dell refresh the E1505 with Merom, they'll bundle in the X1600.

    Compare with Acer who have just refreshed the 5672Wmli with an X1600.

    TBH tho, Id be happy with just being able to slap a Merom processor into my existing E1505 by xmas.
     
  30. Ebs757

    Ebs757 Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I realy hope that option for the X1600 comes out on the E1505
     
  31. syxbit

    syxbit Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    5
    Messages:
    689
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i have the e1505, and to be honest it's ugly, bulky and cheap
    i got it cause of the latter
    i'm about to sell it so i can get something way better (an Asus)
    i learnt the hard way, but it's not worth saving a couple of hundred bucks. You'll be unhappy later
     
  32. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    i hope they do it late july. I doubt it though... I dont want to wait till the end of the year for meron and x1600.
     
  33. Mark_J_Fletcher

    Mark_J_Fletcher Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi Syxbit,

    While its no macbook pro I do like the look of my E1505. I was deciding between an Acer 5672 and the Dell E1505 and after hearing many stories of Acers poor build on these forums, and from friends who had owned Acer laptops, I decided to go for the Dell because of the build quality.

    Im quite happy with my Dell.... it plays WoW just fine!
     
  34. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    is E1505 that bad? I am considering it because i can get it soooooooo cheap! Is it heavy, do you see ureself carrying around to like the libary and places?
     
  35. Rellik

    Rellik Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It is ugly and bulky, but only to a certain degree, as has been noted :p

    It's not a bad size for taking with you to a library or a party or the homes of friends or relatives, or any fixed destination you're going to stay at and take your time for a while. It's not going to break your back (or break your laptop) to take it with you every once in a while.

    But it's just too bulky an item to take with you (without discomfort) on a consistent bases. It sounds silly, but I don't know, maybe it's psychological? It's not that much work to take out a 15.4" inch laptop or open it up or put it back or carry it around on your back, but JEEZ, it FEELS like such a hassle! I'll only be able to tell if it really WAS a hassle once I've had my 12" for a little while.
     
  36. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    oic...i keep hearing people say that they are returning there E1505. Didnt know it was that bulky.

    I will be taking it to the library maybe 4 times a week
     
  37. jeffmd

    jeffmd Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    65
    Messages:
    554
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I like the way my 1505 looks. And its a fair bit lighter and thinner then my older toshiba 1800. ^^
     
  38. jtom

    jtom Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    59
    Messages:
    602
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The E1505 is not too big but I would prefer anything 14 inches and smaller.
     
  39. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    ahh ic. Man soo many conflicting opinions about the E1505. lol
     
  40. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

    Reputations:
    22,339
    Messages:
    36,639
    Likes Received:
    5,080
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The HP dv5000t is a higher-quality and better looking option.

    Can't deny that the Dell E1505 isn't a good notebook for the money.
     
  41. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    True. But the hp tends to be a bit more expensive than the dell. (about 200 dollars). I guess I would rather go with the asus s96j than hp if I want to spend a few hundred more.
     
  42. kingcrowing

    kingcrowing Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    352
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    well I have a D820, which I think is very, very nice, Its not really the same platform as the E1505, its thinner and lighter and has a much better build quality (and is therefore also more expensive) But it has as nVidia 120M (same as a 7400go) and I think its fine for gaming, and I personally prefer nVidia cards to ATI, but thats just preferance, as someone said earlier it depends on the game but for older games it really makes little difference
     
  43. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    true, but i would rather get a card that is for gaming, as I wont be doing CAD and stuff.

    I heard that there may be some complications with some games with the 120 m.
     
  44. Archon810

    Archon810 Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    so nobody addressed the question of upgrading to this card from integrated video.

    after my quest to upgrade to ati failed, dell assured me that they were going to introduce some nvidia cards that could be upgraded to from integrated... is this it?
     
  45. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    some nvidia cards....anyone thinking what im thinking? (go7600) hehe
     
  46. dudesdudets

    dudesdudets Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    61
    Messages:
    782
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I've been using E1505 for 3 months+ and haven't faced a single problem so far.
    For sure it's not great looking and build quality, but it is a solid working machine and that's all that matters to me.
     
  47. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

    Reputations:
    908
    Messages:
    5,056
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    206
    7300 go... thats kind of a weak card for a 15.4" notebook. I guess some would prefer it to the X1300.
     
  48. rydude07

    rydude07 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    10
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    thanks dudesdudets. I have heard horrow stories, but ures seems great!
     
  49. lilredfoxie

    lilredfoxie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    51
    Messages:
    381
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  50. torsten

    torsten Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
 Next page →