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    Grainy Laptop Image Comparison

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by farelli09, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. farelli09

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    Honestly, I can not tell that those screens are "grainy".
     
  3. Zagnut

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    It's the left image (The macbook pro) thats grainy
     
  4. pragun

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    i can't tell either..
     
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    You can see a difference but it's sure not huge.
     
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    Wow! Thats a fantastic screenshot! I didn't really know what people were talking about before this.. You can see that the pic in the left, the grey and white area looks has some kind of really "miniscule black specks".. Not annoying enough to give a headache or eyestrain imo..
     
  7. pragun

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    maybe a little..i don't know..for all i know i might be seeing something because i am biased in assuming the left one has grain. you know...the left screen isn't that bad..i don't know why everyone's getting a fit over it.
     
  8. Duke2007

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    the G4 screen is so much better...
     
  9. pragun

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    this could have to do with the monitor im looking at this picture from =P.
     
  10. Zagnut

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    Yeah if your using a grainy screen it will most likely be difficult to tell which one is which :D
     
  11. gbear

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    i cant really see a difference...
     
  12. Andy1210

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    Guys, guys- I think this whole grainyness thing has reached hysteria levels with people trying to figure out if they even have any of 'it' cuz the differences are so small- geesh.

    I mean if there's a legitmate issue out there where the GPU is causing some amt of image distortion, then fine, that should be addressed.

    But everyone here is staring like maniacs at the MBP screenshot desperately trying to see if it is plagued by the dreaded grainy-disease. And what's teh point in that?? It's a freakin SIMULATED shot- even the guy who origianlly posted it admitted to that having intentionally added the distortion for effect!

    I too was all hyped up about this b4 actually receiving my 1720 thinking it would be a nightmare. Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones, cuz when I got it I was struck by how awesome the screen clarity and brightness was. My concern is that others who have yet to receive theirs willl be double-guessing themselves to death, canceling and reordering to some other spec (like anti-glare) to avoid a problem they may NEVER have experienced if they waited. Sure glad I did!
     
  13. Zagnut

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    I think the problem is with the LCD screen and not the gfx. cards, and what else do you suggest we do to pass the time until our much awaited lappys arrive? Because this is what you do when you spend a whole heap of money sir, you worry, then you sleep, and then you worry some more!
     
  14. hlcc

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    theres a difference between the 2?
    i am blessed to not have a sharp eye
     
  15. Zagnut

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    I have that blessing too. Thats why i wear glasses..
     
  16. brianj320

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    i was able to see the difference once i angled my screen and looked at it the comparison. lookin straight on i could not tell they were different.
     
  17. bosco999

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    I can definitely see the difference between the two, the graininess doesn't stand out as much but that could be because it's just a picture, I can only imagine how it must look in person. The G4 does indeed have the better screen.
     
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    haha the thing is.
    if you have a 1520 which has the grainy effect, both of them would look grainy, wouldnt they? haha
     
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    how do you not see the grainyness? I think it's either your monitor is grainy or...
     
  20. hlcc

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    i really don't see it, no matter what monitor i use. my eye is not as keen as yours, hurray!
    i can kinda see theres a little bit difference between the two, but I don't see one as better than the other. So I might be able to tell the difference, but grainy and non grainy looks equally good to me.
     
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    Here if you look at the picture on the left. The colors look darker. This is because of the grainyness.

    edit:
    The left side does not look CLEAN and looks dirty. That's the grainy ness
     
  22. hlcc

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    i can see that, but i don't see the right as any better than the left. oh i can only see a difference in darkness on the title bar, not in the white background.

    only the grey title bar looks a little bit different for me,,, only if i look real close( i mean literally with my eyes near the screen) with a comparison right next to it
    i see no difference in the white areas
    and no difference in the colored areas
     
  23. Andy1210

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    Give it to me straight Doc, I can take it! I just GOTTA know, Is my bouncing baby lappy suffering from Grainyness or not??




    Now, if that seemed stupid, it was done to make a point that many are missing- just like the image above, the original MBP image at top of thread is ALSO a SIMULATION, not real. All your doing is verifying whether you can detect distortion on a FAKE image- GET IT????
     

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    now that laptop has a grainy screen lol
     
  25. mbeer

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    Is this just on the 1520? I have a 1720 coming...I hope my screen is crisp and clear!
     
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    Well I'm happy I now know what the graininess looks like, and I now see it isn't that big of a deal, I probably wouldn't have noticed it without the comparison shot. I know I'm seeing it perfectly because I am viewing this on a high quality CRT and my eyes are perfect.
     
  27. Andy1210

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    Yes, you're seeing an artificially created image of a grainy screen with perfect eyesight on your nice CRT. Congrats!

    hey- whatever works... ignorance is bliss!
     
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    wow...maybe im blind, but it took me about 5 minutes to notice any difference.

    Andy - would that be the exact same graininess that people are complaining about with the inspiron? anyone with the grainy issue can you chime in on this?

    totally glad i didnt cancel my order if this is what the fuss was all about...
     
  29. Andy1210

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    LOL! ok people... I give up. << runs away screaming>>

    is everyone here too young to have seen War Of The Worlds? Ya know, when they PRETENDED that the world was being invaded by extra-terrestrials on a SIMULATED radio broadcast...

    ... no, I suppose not :rolleyes:

    desisolja- I'll say it one more time cuz I like you, the Mac Book Pro screen shot IS NOT REAL, but rather a simulated fake image created of what grainyness 'would' look like. It's pretend, like Barney the Dinosaur. Stop trying to see it, cuz if you do, you're only verifying you can see a fake representation of the infamous 'grainyness'

    I'm going back to work now :D
     
  30. farelli09

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    exactly, it's a photoshopped image. I just wanted to see if actual 1520 owners had screens as bad as that.
     
  31. ragnor

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    Yeah, it's an artificial image, blah, blah...
    But it LOOKS LIKE screen with grainy.
     
  32. Liquidx

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    well I am here to tell you that I notice no graininess on my laptop
     
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    yea but do you have a glossy screen?
     
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    Are you serious? The difference is huge!

    The only possible reason you cannot see the screen is crap must be that you are watching that image on a grainy screen...
    ; )

    Edit: When read the entire thread I know it's just a simulated picture (of course, since a print screen can't capture the fault). But I am still amazed how NOT to see the difference.
     
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    I got my 1520 yesterday. I do notice the grainy screen but, to me, it's really not that bad. I'm not sure what I would be doing so that the screen would bother me. But, I do understand why people are complaining, they didn't pay for a grainy screen. I guess you could try to have Dell come to your house but I'm pretty sure nothing will be done. So the only choices are:
    a) return it
    b) deal with it

    I've decided to deal with it. I'm fairly satisfied with my 1520 to this point.
     
  37. Zagnut

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    Actually i believe many people have had dell ppl coming to their house and replacing the LCD, because its not supposed to be grainy, so they have to offer to fix it.
     
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    If THAT is the difference between grainy and not grainy, then it is a complete non-issue to me.

    If the difference is so small that you have to stare for 10 minutes and think "okay, maybe there is a difference" then Im going to stop worrying about it.
     
  39. hlcc

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    last time I checked nobody complained about the monitors I'm using, or about grainy screens on Inspiron 1501, and 1505. I've looked at that image with 4 different screens, and I can barely tell a tiny bit of difference,, and thats with me knowing one is suppose to be grainy and with me staring at the screen from 4 inches away.
     
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    Are people's LCD's actually being replaced by 'non-grainy' ones? If so, I might do it too. It wouldn't hurt but I'm not going to return my 1520 because of it.
     
  41. farelli09

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    yes the replacements aren't grainy from what I've heard.

    and by the way my friend got a black 1520 which came in last week (he neglected to tell me until today). The screen is not grainy....go figure (yes he has the glossy WSXGA+ screen).
     
  42. desisolja

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    so theyre replacing the grainy glossy screens with other glossy screens? how does that work? i thought all of the glossy screens were naturally grainy due to the coating...

    also: to those of you who are having them replaced, you just call dell up and they send their guy down there the next day free of charge or how does it work?
     
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    SiSoftware Sandra

    Monitor/Panel
    Device ID : Generic PnP Monitor
    Maximum Resolution : 1600x1200
    DPMS Energy Star Compliant : Yes

    PnP/DDC Monitor Data
    Manufacturer : Samsung/Seiko Epson
    Date of Manufacture : Monday, December 25, 2006
    Type : RGB colour
    CRT/Panel Size : 15 in
    Horizontal/Vertical CRT/Panel Size : 330 mm / 210 mm
    Gamma Factor : 2.20
    EDID Version : 1.03


    that is the info for my 1520 panel...interesting it was manufactored on Christmas of last year!!
     
  44. Liquidx

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    Yes i have a glossy screen, and if its grainy I sure as hell can't tell. I think it looks damn good to me, and I am used to using a Viewsonic professional series monitor.
     
  45. desisolja

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    the description in your signature says 1280X800....

    i thought only the 1440X900 was glossy...
     
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    I'm fairly certain they all come in glossy, at least I know that my 1680x1050 is supposed to be.
     
  47. desisolja

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    yea, cuz 1680X1050 is the high res for whichever model you ordered. im saying, if im not mistaken, only the high res screens come in glossy. so for instance, on the 14 inch, 1440X900 is the high res and it comes in glossy, but 1280X800 doesnt have that option.
     
  48. usapatriot

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    For all Asus notebooks with the screen "graininess" issue, they were all fixed with a simple BIOS update.
     
  49. mtylerjr

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    For the inspiron 1520, all resolutions (1280x800, 1440x900, 1680x1050) come in glossy. The only one that you can get in matte is the 1280x800
     
  50. Liquidx

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    yeah, I just checked to make sure. I was 99.9% sure it was glossy, now I am 100%.
     
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