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    Grainy Laptop Image Comparison

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by farelli09, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. phobos512

    phobos512 Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Well, I can very definitely tell the difference between those on my 1420 with the antiglare screen. Looks exactly the same as on my desktop. Left image has a pretty good speckle to it whereas the right image is smooth.

    Interesting.
     
  2. Rowen

    Rowen Notebook Consultant

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    It would be even more interesting to find that this all could be rectified with a simple bios fix.
     
  3. Significa

    Significa Notebook Consultant

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    It's noticeable if you compare it side by side but hard to tell the difference by it self. Doesn't seem to really matter to me anyway.
     
  4. toned42

    toned42 Notebook Guru

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    for those who knows what grainy means the difference can be spotted within seconds. Obviously this is not the perfect example, a clear sky with gradually fading blue at the corner of a grainy screen would be a great example.
     
  5. tooz

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    I would love if a bios fix is the solution but, to me, it doesn't sound that reasonable. I don't know if I'll call to have my LCD replaced by a tech. Is it free of charge?
     
  6. bizekiel

    bizekiel Notebook Consultant

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    I've had my 1520 for a day now, and to be honest, I've stopped noticing the graininess most of the time. It's there if I look for it, but it doesn't seem to be a huge deal.
     
  7. farelli09

    farelli09 Notebook Evangelist

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    I do believe the whole graininess fiasco has been blown out of proportion. I'm stickin with it no matter what...I'll get someone to replace the screen if it's that bad. There's no way I'm missing out on wxga+ resolution for movies and gaming.
     
  8. vxt

    vxt Notebook Consultant

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    My friends. You've lost your eyesights if you cant see the grains. I'm a photographer and I'm telling it looks really bad. Useless for photo editing and such.

    Even if you are used to it by now it would be foolish not to get Dell to change your screen for free. They will never improve their production quality if we just accept things that are broken. And they wont learn anything until they lose a lot of money on free screen replacements. CALL DELL!
     
  9. desisolja

    desisolja Notebook Consultant

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    im a bit confused as to how they can change it. if im not mistaken, its not a defect - ALL of the glossy screens are made like this...

    what exactly can they change?
     
  10. Zagnut

    Zagnut Notebook Consultant

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    No sir!, not all LCD's are grainy
     
  11. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The thing is, the graininess probably can be fixed by a simple VGA BIOS update.
     
  12. vxt

    vxt Notebook Consultant

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    Few people mentioned this but how exactly? The maker of that screenshot had to have a guy come and install a new screen. So I'm not sure how the BIOS can fix it. Maybe on ASUS it was a BIOS problem, as mentioned in one of the posts earlier.
     
  13. hlcc

    hlcc Notebook Evangelist

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    you have a keen eye, some people don't.
    If the supposedly broken LCD looks the same as a supposedly better looking LCD, why bother wasting my own time to call them and get it replaced.
     
  14. vxt

    vxt Notebook Consultant

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    I may indeed! I said that only to the people who were saying they can see the grain on their screen but they are used to it or dont care much. If you can't see any problem with yours then no need for the extra trouble I guess.

    Its just wrong when we accept to live with a bad product and let the big guys get away with selling bad products, or possible factory rejects.
     
  15. SunShine3rd

    SunShine3rd Notebook Enthusiast

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    It took me about 2 minutes to see the difference. I doubt that would bother me very much.
     
  16. MechAnt

    MechAnt Notebook Geek

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    To be honest, my computer (1520) is grainy enough that they both look grainy to me and i cant tell the difference! The irony is killer
     
  17. Stella

    Stella Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Hahaha I had that problem too! I asked my boyfriend to pull it up on his E1505 so I could look at it :).
     
  18. offbase

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    I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I'm totally serious when I say that anyone who cannot tell the difference between those 2 sides of the screen really needs to either get glasses or have his current prescription updated. The left side of that screen looks absolutely aweful, and to me it is unacceptable, especially when paying an upcharge for higher resolution and a better graphics card -- kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
     
  19. Woodgypsy

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    Maybe we can use that picture as a litmus paper for graininess. If you can tell the difference, your LCD is fine, if you cannot, your LCD is grainy. ;) I think that picture is fantastic.

    About graininess, well, at first I thought I could get used with it. But then, I noticed my eyes are much more tired after using this, than my old PC....I am not sure if its because of graininess, terrible reflections, or slightly higher resolution - or maybe its mix of all these. Graininess was not noticeable when 3D gaming, though - so its fine if you mostly use it for 3D gaming.
     
  20. offbase

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    Samsung??? Well, sheesh, now we KNOW the problem, don't we???
     
  21. mtylerjr

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    You do know that the transition between the two pictures is NOT where the color changes from grey to white. The original image actually does change from gray to white. The transition is the vertical bar - and both sides look practically identical on either side of that bar - even on non LCD screens.

    Im thinking that the people who are saying the difference is great are actually just misunderstanding the image.

    [​IMG]

    You can see a little bit of a difference if you blow the image up to huge proportions.....
     
  22. offbase

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    Gee, thank you, Mr. Know-It-All! Of course I know where the transition is, and I was primarily referring to the text clarity and color variations as shown on the gray menu bar ABOVE where you're pointing out. Who would be dumb enough to think that the poster-info box was the transition line???

    And, I see A LOT of difference just from the pic you just posted. It's far more noticeable on the gray menu area at the top of the screen. I reiterate: get your eyes checked.
     
  23. dell1520

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    Ok. This is funny. I was so afraid about grainy screens that I almost canceled my order... I laugh at myself now.
    Sure, the difference is obvious, it is visible immediately, but according to me it is not THAT bad.
    I guess that I will not have a problem with it.
    Graininess is only a big problem when you are looking for it. Sure, I like the clear screen better, but I will not mind that my 1520 will have the grainy one... Though if they replace them for free...

    And who knows? Maybe my screen wont be grainy!
     
  24. Andy1210

    Andy1210 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm sorry, but you're all profoundly moronic obsessing about whether or not you can detect the graininess or not- for one simple reason- IT'S AN ARTIFICIALLY CREATED IMAGE- NOT REAL as admitted by the guy who originally posted it.

    How is there ANY relevance whatsoever in analyzing this screen shot when it is a FAKE- not actual graininess??? GEESH!!! The guy was just trying to show you what it would look like if you were to have the problem. But it AIN'T real- get it!?!?
     
  25. HI DesertNM

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    I will say what has already been said before.. the screenshot is simulated. So the graininess etc.. is not a accurate representation of this problem.. at all. Go by what users are reporting.. not this. From what I gathered from all the threads.. there is a problem. That problem seems to be variable by the manufacturer of the panel and/or how they applied the glossy coating. It sounds like some panels may have been affected much more then others. I don't think there is anyway to guarantee you can order a glossy without this happening. Just have to wait and see what you get unfortunately.
     
  26. dell1520

    dell1520 Notebook Geek

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    Yes, but it still is a good simulation of what it actually looks like.
    And besides, people elevate graininess to hysteric levels. Half of them never saw a grainy screen, or already use one. This image forces them to realize what it would REALLY look like.
     
  27. mtylerjr

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    The only text-on-white in the entire "grainy" portion of that image is the

    "http://f" of the url, which frankly is indistiguishable from the text-on-white on the other side.

    And that was supposed to be the "worst" of it.


    But yeah, I think it is funny, debating a simulated image, based on another type of laptop entirely. Lol
     
  28. unknown22

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    When I compared my brother's 1520 with my inspiron 5100 I saw a big difference. In the grainy screen if you look at it too long, like reading something, you will feel like those little tiny gray/white dots are moving. Because they mix together like salt and pepper but white and gray color.
     
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