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    HDTV m1210 using video out

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by PCModifiers, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. PCModifiers

    PCModifiers Notebook Consultant

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    Well today I was playing around with a nVidia adapter I have that outputs component HDTV signals along with composite video and svideo.


    I wish I had a HDTV that supported 720P, I have been kicking myself for about two years now because I should have waited before I purchased my TV.

    The adapter is made by Compupack. Part number is 5511A001

    I have seen them on ebay and a few other places for anyone who wants to have some fun with this seeing as the m1210 doesn't have a DVI output.
     

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  2. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Did you have a question?

    I wonder what the point of having the S-Video to Composite cable is...S-Video is limited by its sub-Composite quality, so there isn't really a reason to have composite on the other end...anyway, you don't transfer audio either.
     
  3. PCModifiers

    PCModifiers Notebook Consultant

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    I meant to say I am using the HD component outputs where actually I typed composite. The quality looks perfect to me and the reason I used the cable was to be able to run HD signals like 480P and 1080i.
     
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    hehe299792458 Notebook Deity

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    I bought the dongle from dell and it works great. The S-Video on XPS1210 isn't acutally a s-video jack. It has a few more pins. This leads me to believe that's it's actually an improvement over the standard s-video transmission. Also, the one I got from Dell also has digital audio output.
     
  5. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    This is interesting - it's possible, but remember that the "mini-DIN" family has a lot of pin differences. How many pins does the S-Video out on the m1210 have?

    Actually, this is my fault. I meant to say "component" - composite is ancient. That even furthers my point - how does that dongle "upconvert" a 480i image to 1080i or 480p?? Doesn't make sense...usually you need a box to do this.
     
  6. PCModifiers

    PCModifiers Notebook Consultant

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    Correct sir.

    S-Video only has 4 pins and transmits at either 480i or 576i

    The connection on the m1210 actually supports 9 pins to be able to transfer other items like HDTV signals or in the case of yours digital audio in the form of s/pdif.



    It doesn't upconvert the video, the output on the computer supports composite video, s-video, and HD video and I guess audio per hehe299792458 post. The output is more like a VIVO connection and not just a plan old S-Video one.
     
  7. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Can someone verify this? This is really interesting...and I have never read or heard about this. HD signals? Audio?
     
  8. PCModifiers

    PCModifiers Notebook Consultant

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    Most of the newer video cards have these capabilities. I was looking at my desktop with an ATI 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro it has a similar mini-din cable and does have spdif audio along with component HD cables. Unfortunately it 10 pin connection and will not work for the m1210 seeing that it can only support a 9 pin connection.


    hehe299792458 does you connector look like this or is it something different? (the one in the picture below has 7 pins so if you would double check that with the one you have)

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    So have you been able to watch movies with sound with just the S-Video cable on the m1210?? Remarkable!
     
  10. benna

    benna Notebook Evangelist

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    I need to get one. is that thing available in markets
     
  11. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Don't know. I'm still very skeptical about what the other posters are talking about. I have never come across a S-Video out that feeds audio, let alone HD video. Sounds too good to be true. And that too, the claim that Dell is providing this, free, without any hint of it on the spec sheet for the m1210.
     
  12. khanhfat

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    I want the cable like the 1 in the picture.. but how much does it cost? I remember it was like 30$ , i think it's a little bit expensive..
     
  13. ChangFest

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    Dell S-Video to Component +audio
     
  14. PCModifiers

    PCModifiers Notebook Consultant

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    You could just buy one from Dell...

    Link
     
  16. hehe299792458

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    I'm not sure if the adapter will give you 720p or 1080i resolution, but I know it works better than s-video. However, as I don't output to my tv that much, I don't find it to be a particularly useful piece of hardware.
     
  17. khanhfat

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    Well, depends on what you use the laptop for. If you do a lot of presentation or some slideshow, you might need it. Btw, the 3 - color component cable won't be able to display high resolution. Only HDMI can. The max they can out put is probably DVD resolution , which is 480i or 480p. If you have an HDTV, try to use DVI to HDMI, it'll be better. The component output will be useful for older TVs.
     
  18. marauder

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    There is no way you will be able to see HD content using that solution. In what concerns the video cards that have HD capability, that means nothing if the producer didn't actually activated that option on the board ( that is puting a HDMI or DVI port on the board) see Nvidia Quadro NVS for example.

    DVI to HDMI is also useless in some cases. If the graphic board doesn't comply to the HDCP standard all you will see is a nice blue screen. For example my HD Samsung TV won't allow any input signals unless fron a HDCP compliant card ( or any other source for that matter). I only know of one and it costs way to much to worth it.

    The best solution I found so far in terms of clarity (far less blurry than S-video 4 or 9 pin) on my TV is a DVI to SCART cable.

    I spent a lot of money on cables, adapters, etc. and for nothing really. Since my TV is 7 m away from the computer, I also have trouble finding cables that don't twist the signal. I decided that until all this blur around HDCP, HDTV,HDMI to whatever convertors dissapears and the standard becomes fnal I will settle for non HD output. It won't kill me lol
     
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    If I were to use that on the m1210 I am positive it would work.
     
  21. timfountain

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    Wrong!
    Component video such as YPrPb and RGB (as used on SCART) can go all the way from 480i to 1080p. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video. HDMI and DVI-D are digital video. Component video is still widely used on modern video applications.
     
  22. timfountain

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    Hmm something not right here.
    You are confusing HDMI, DVI etc with HDCP. Not all HD content (in fact most) is not HDCP protected. This is especially true with the output from a computer, as the content will almost certainly not have any DRM infection and thus not need the HDCP crutch to support it....

    In addition I have seen many setups where a DVI to HDMI converter works fine. Also any quality component cable set will easily drive 20+ft without any noticable degredation, I have a 30ft run in my media room with no problems.

    Your last paragraph makes the most sense, and is the reason why Blu Ray and HDDVD will fail. It is VHS vs. betamax all overagain, only this time neither format has got much attention from potential customers, as DVD fulfills 95% of peoples' expectations in terms of quality, and the DRM infection issues will kill any interest from legetimate perspective users. HD with DRM via HDCP has a very rocky road to acceptance at this point in time.

    Oh and don't expect any kind of standard display adapter any time soon, every hear of "Mini-DVI", "DisplayPort" or "UDI"? Get ready, they're coming to a PC near you soon {....possibly, maybe, depending on which one Intel or Apple wants to back today}