How big is the difference on T5470 and T7300

I see that T7300 doulbe the L2 cache size,
but how is the perfermance difference between them, I mean, is it worth for a $195 upgrade?

BTW, I do game, but not much.
Thanks

 

It will make a big difference in processor intensive things (coding, long equations) but not much in anything else

 

CPU-intensive games will also be affected by this. HL2 and its mods do have a need for CPU power.

 

As well as most modern RTS', basically any CPU intensive game or app will notice a big difference between those processors. However for productivity tasks and casual gaming, it's probably not worth $200.

 

what does RTS stand for? Real-Time Strategy? If so what does that mean...lol

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_strategy

 

so like civilization 3/4, Age of Empires, etc...?

 

get the better proccessor =P so when u game and alt tab u dont get the screen of deaths and lagGS

 

thanks for your reply,
well, I don't game much, but I do coding a lot( Computer Science Major )
so, it is worth to upgrade for me, uhh?

 

I always found that even with modern day physics intensive games, even a low-end Dual Core (Heck, even a AMD Turion X2 TL-50) would do--the important thing is still the GPU.

But (no offense here), seeing as how you don't even know what "RTS" is, I don't think you'll be doing any heavy duty gaming that'll need the T7300 (again, no offense intended here; just pointing out the obvious).

EDIT: Seems like you posted before me. For coding, not really, it won't help that much. Even in Comp Sci major, you won't be making the next Havok Engine that'll suck up 60% of your CPU clock .

 

depends what kind of coding your doing...

 

Pure coding requires next to no processor power whatsoever.

 

its always nice to get a lil ahead of the market as far as technology is concern. You always have to remember the replacing the CPU in a laptop isn't something that you can do on a whim. I like to try to at least plan for about 1-2years ahead.

 

Its not worth $200, which is going to be like +20% cost on that system in your sig. If Dell charged something more reasonable like $85 for the upgrade, maybe.

 

I know I said coding but I kind of meant what the coding will do, complex equations, etc... And yes you will be fine with the T5470

 

ThunderCat has pointed out the most important thing to consider. It's a laptop, it's not like you can swop out CPU's in a heart beat, plus just to get a cpu down the road like a T7300, its around 300 - 400 dollars. Frankly 50, 70, 100 w.e they charge it's well worth it cuz you won't be voiding you're warranty in the processor lol.

And for all we know, Windows Seven which is due to release in 2008 - 2010, you'll need the power.. Yeah that's right MS is already working on a new one.. lol and if they continue the trend it will need more horsepower then previous versions.

Computer Science and related type coding is deadly on CPU's.. That's why people are considering using Playstation 3's because of they're 8 core cell processors. Sony has even considered reselling spare/available cpu cycle to companys needing them, how they plan to rein burst PS3 owners is unknown lol..

Always leave breathing room when it comes to technology!!

 

First of all, all of the coding done in university CS classes can still be done absolutely fine on a single core Sonoma Dothan. Coding is not CPU intensive at all. Also any merom processor is more than sufficient for future-proofing in anything but the most CPU-intensive tasks. The bottom line is that the $200 isn't worth it for a barely noticeable performance increase in the tasks you perform.

 

Yeah i read in one of the XPS M1330 revies here that it only gives a 2-4% increased speed in normal tasks. Now ask yourself, do you really want to spend that much to get a 2-4% faster processor...hell no.

 

God no. It may make a difference but certainly not $195 worth. Go buy hookers or booze or vegetarian food supplements or something!

What he said.

 

What about for photoshop (home use) and HD video editing (some use, too)? Would it be worth it then?

 

I agree, school work won't required much at all. and $195 is too much for such upgrade!

But I do want to keep my laptop for about 3 years. so, if there comes a new OS in 2 years, MAN, do I need to look at 2 year ahead?

 

My dell 2.6ghz, 256mb ram, 64mb graphics card still runs xp flawlessly. Who cares if a new OS comes out in 2 years, it ill be ill-received due to them just releasing vista less than 2/3 years ago. And yes ofcourse they are already working on thr new OS, becuase they cant make it within 6 months, it takes years and dont want a repeat of Vista.

 

The T7300 unlike the T5470 will come with Intel Dynamic Acceleration which according to Intel will deliver extra performance when running single threaded application while the second core is idle.

I assume this is done by overclocking one core by a modest amount of 5 or 10 percent.

 

Wow. I wouldn't expect anything else from a Halo player.

Oh, I went there.

 

dude the difference is huge. i went with the 2.2 ghz processor because the jump from 2.2 to 2.4 wasnt worth 300 bucks. but 200 bucks is definately worth going from t54suckiness to t7500.

if you are mostly doing office applications, t5470 is PLENTY, i mean theres 2 cores. but if you want to do anythign that requires more processor power, like run itunes, sidebar, vista in general, and some microsoft office junk, then you'd want the upgrade. my 1.8 ghz celeron can handle firefox, a word document, and itunes, but not much more than that. games it can kinda handle but only on super low settings. just to give you a picture.

 

Don't even compare celerons to Core 2 Duos lol. That alone makes it seem like you don't have much of an idea.

Celerons/Semprons are bottom of the barrel processors for people who are doing what he said earlier. Hell, why are people buying Inspirons with Athlon chips. By that logic it should be horrible.

In reality, Even a TL-50 Athlon which has 512 meg cache IIRC will run fine for most situations. I always find that in laptops, the graphics card is always the thing that slows things down. I haven't run in a processor problem since...well Pentium 2s.

 

Photoshop will be fine with either of the dual core processors (as long as you have plenty of RAM), don't know much about HD video editing, though supposedly that will be offloaded to your GPU in the nVidia 8m series.

All of the tasks mentioned will run fine in the T5470. And gaming will not really be negatively impacted by the processor, it relies primarily on the graphics card. The bottom line is that it's not worth an upgrade. Either of those processors will work fine for at least 3 years (which I believe is how long you want to keep your laptop?).

 

Completely FALSE. You simply have a horrible (or simply nonexistent) GPU... I'd wager that you're using a GMA 950 in the system you just described.

A T5470 + GF 8600M GT upgrade will keep your Vostro 1500 afloat for at least 2 years. It'll still last you a good 3 or 4 years, but just don't expect to be doing any more serious gaming once you hit the 3rd or 4th year with a GF 8600M GT.

This is the exact same system I ordered (T5470, 2GB, GF8600M GT); in fact, with 2GB of RAM, the T5470 performs marvelously well under XP.

 

In all the tasks you mentioned plus most games I play I can't even tell the difference between my desktop's quad-core Q6600(2.4 at 1066FSB) and my laptop's T5470(1.6 at 800FSB)

 

The BIGGEST difference between a T5470 and a T7300 will be shown if you're doing any rendering task (Audio, video, or 3D rendering) as those are the tasks that are truly CPU taxing... Games aren't all that taxing on CPU's as compared to rendering tasks.

 

I got the cheapest cpu for the 1520 and instead got the 8600gt gpu and 1 gig of ram and i am able to run the bioshock demo at full settings on my 1280 x 800 lcd screen.

I say your better off using the difference in the money by getting a gpu or extra gig of ram instead.

 

Exactly... Games aren't the biggest CPU taxers.

But... are you sure you can run Bioshock at MAX with a GF8600M GT? I'm hearing from other sources that even at 1024x768, only Medium settings is possible if you want no lag...

 

I'd say get the better CPU, just to future proof it for atleast 2 years. I opted for the best CPU in my notebook (see sig) before Santa Rosa came out. Even with Santa Rosa now out, my CPU is future proofed for atleast another year. I may need to upgrade my RAM soon, and the x1400 is already old, but the CPU is good!

 

T7300 runs cooler than T5470, perhaps due to larger chip size which helps to lower thermal resistance for heat dissipation.

 

it should be possible I would imagine. I can run it at medium on my 7600GT (and I only have a AMD Athlon XP 3000 CPU and 1GB RAM aswell).
It will run on high aswell, and is fine until I have to fight anything.

bioshock really isn't that a demanding of game.

 

i definetly would use mony upgrading other things.. like the video card, battery hard disk, etc. even more warranty

IMO, santa rosa or not, all of the nowadays processor will probably be obsolete in a couple of years, and dell seems to be overcharging the price of the upgrade too much


edit: i agree with majortom1981, i would have done the same thing. unfortunely i dont have money to upgrade any, so i'm sticking with the basic configuration

 

From another thread ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=2307318&postcount=1):

Hell, I'm confused...