How long until DELL gets the Intel Merom processor in the laptops?

I am planning on getting a new lappy in a month or two, i don't want to get the Duo if a new processor is coming out soon. Does anyone know how long until the Merom is available in Dell systems?

 

You can get a core duo machine now, and be able to put merom in it.

If you want a machine that comes with it, it wont be until October/Novemeber

 

That is a bit iffy plus you'll void the warranty. There is usually some time from when a new CPU is introduced and new models are introduced.

 

Thats why he said Oct/Nov, merom is slated to release this August. And are you sure that replacing the cpu will void your warranty?

 

Does anyone know how much faster/better it will be than the Duo?

 

It is debatable as to weather it will void the warranty or not. If you check out dell's forums, majority of the responses are "yes it voids your warranty" with cpu upgrades. Yet, there are some no's and if you try calling dell, you'll get the same response. Some Techs will say yes, some will say No.

Dell does say you can upgrade SOME hardware like RAM, HDD, and supported video cards, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. Don't expect to replace major components of your laptop and think that Dell will cover it.

At the very least, dell will not cover any damage that is caused by your new parts or any damage that occurs while you have the laptop open. They only cover damage caused by the original parts

 

My take . . .

Realize I'm not an NBR Reviewer or a Moderator, just another shumck.

The Core Duo came out, officially introduced, at CES 2006 in early January. Dell was shipping 9400's by the end of January. The Core Duo was a huge sea change compared to Pentium M laptops. New MB's, new chipset, SATA HD's, ExpressCard compared to Pentium M 9300's. By comparison, Core 2 will at most require a BIOS update; same MB, same chipset, same HD's, yada . . . yada!!!

Now let's look at this from Intel's perspective. Clearly Intel has lost market share to AMD, not so much in the mobile space as in desktops and servers but share is share. The only thing Intel lacks in the mobile space is 64bit. Guess what, Core 2 is 64bit enabled.

Therefore, I'll bet that Dell will be shipping their first Core 2 within 2 weeks of the official announcement by Intel. No reason Dell would necessarily need new model numbers, Core 2 could just occupy the upper tier. Don't expect Core 2 to be cheap!!! At least for the first 2-3 months.

FWIW
Hermit

 

Also note that for Core duo users now, Core Duo 2 will work in dells (the core duo inspirons, do in fact support merom fully).

The only thing stated is about the warranty, which im undecided as well.




Another thing to note, Dell will more than likely not release a new model for the systems to just have merom. Rather, Dell will add it in the specs. At least that is my opinion, since they wouldnt release a new versions of all the XPS's and Inspirons to just have Merom

 

Seeing that HP started offering Turion X2 practically the same day after intro by AMD, I would say Dell will do the same with Merom.

 

HP/Compaq only introduced the X2 in the HP DV2000 and the Compaq V3000 so far, and haven't switched over their entire lineup to using the X2 CPU. However, I would expect Dell to release at least one of their models in their Inspiron lineup with the new Core Duo within about a month. Their entire Inspiron lineup took about 3-4 months to switch over - I would expect similar wait times on their business line and XPS line as well.

 

This is not certain. There is no way to tell right now if that is possible - read the section on the Core 2 Duo (Merom) in my News Bits here. Intel Partners have confirmed that a BIOS upgrade will be required in order to upgrade to a Merom from a Core Duo.

Let's try not to mislead users about being able to upgrade to Merom. As I and many other posters have said, it is questionable, especially with a mainstream notebook. It is better to just say that you will have to wait if you want a Merom-based notebook rather than "You can buy an Inspiron now and put in a Merom later.." Those type of statements are both confusing users and causing an unneeded amount of threads with the same question in this forum.

As for when Merom notebooks will be available, August, by the looks of it, will only be a paper launch; I wouldn't expect to see notebooks with the new processor available until mid- to end-September.

 

Well, go over to notebookforums.com and look in the Dell 17 inch plus section and you will see that people have already put meroms in the E1705, M1710 and Precision M90 with currently available bios and got them working.

 

Sure it's possible to tell right now, since we have empirical proof:

For more, see: Merom in Dells

Merom works with A01 Bios of the Dell E1705 and the A00 bios of the 1710 and M90 seires notebooks. Nothing misleading about that. YMMV in other models (hint: use this new, exciting technology known as "Google" to see if your model can do it).

If you don't have the right bios, you can flash. If you are frightened about such things, don't do it, wait for Merom notebooks. But there are extensive threads about people making them work just fine.

As far as voiding your warranty, so long as there are no stickers to tear off, and you are careful, how would Dell know if you replace the original processor? If you are worried, wait for the warranty to run, then replace the CPU. This isn't splitting the atom - a screwdriver is all you need.

 

Either the arguing can stop or the thread is locked.

The point of this thread was to see when Dell would be releasing Merom - not to see if users are experimenting and seeing if they work on their own. I don't have a problem with what some of the NBF users did to their own laptops, but until Dell says that Merom can be put in their laptop, then it is not 100% sure that current Dell systems can support Merom! I'm not going to sit there and tell someone to go ahead and put Merom in based on experiments. That is not the way NBR works.

If the user wants to put Merom in the current laptop, then the user is assuming complete responsibility. Considering that none of the current laptops have merom, I'm pretty sure Dell would figure out what the user did and void their warranty.

 

That does not matter - the vast majority of the people that buy Dells aren't going to know what half you said means, so it sounds confusing. And as stated by SG, it is not 100% concrete Merom will be able to work in Dell notebooks at this time. Those Meroms are engineering samples and not the actual production units. Also, not all the BIOS support it, you said it yourself - only certain ones. That's more evidence to back up what SG and I said - it doesn't work in them all.
The whole Merom upgradeability issue is clouded at this time. Upgradeability is an IF.

Come now, we don't need insults or offensive comments directed toward one another. For the consumer's sake, let's avoid telling people that they can upgrade current notebooks to Merom processors when no one really knows whether this is true or not. What you have posted as 'evidence' to whether or not they can be upgraded is skeptical at best.

As far as I am concerned, this issue is concluded.