I Found The Perfect Bluetooth Mouse !!!

You stupid companies out there, specifically Logidumb, Microgarbage, KensingUgly, and any other that manufacture bluetooth mice. I have recently attempted to buy a mouse that had the following criteria:

-A regular sized mouse ( NO MINI's SHOVE IT)
-Mouse that includes bluetooth (NOT RF with dongles sticking out, SHOVE THAT TOO)
-A mouse that is even remotely ergonomic and could be used for most every day applications.
-Decent DPI : nothing too extreme or too low. ~800 - 1300?

** THE MOUSE MUST ALSO NOT BE BUNDLED WITH ANY OTHER GARBAGE YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL TO THE CONSUMERS THAT WE DONT WANT. (Example MX1000 that comes bundled with the Mx5000 keyboard By Logidumb).

Unfortunately what i found instead was a tremendous amount of mini mice, RF wireless mice, and ugly mice.To sum it up it is quite impossible to buy a normal bluetooth mouse because there are none in existence on the market at the moment. The sad part is that it is impossible to find a mouse that fits the first 3 criteria alone; forget the DPI for now...

Considering how long bluetooth has been out...


IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR A DECENT PRODUCT?



In fact, since i know that these companies have a tradition of excellence when it comes to a LACK of common sense i will do the work for you.

THATS RIGHT ! I will design a perfect mouse for you in under 5 minutes that will be a hit once released.




THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO MAKE:

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**mods please dont delete this post i am just expressing the frustration that bluetooth users have been experiencing for a while now. hopefully someone will come along and read this, if not... other BT users can share their opinions in this thread. Please keep it civilized. Besides T1000 once said that "Anger is more useful than despair" so this post is intended to reflect that. +rep welcome.

 

I must have missed the meeting where us bluetooth users elected someone to speak for us.

*looks for the -rep button*

 

lol wtf...i've used plenty of bluetooth mice that work just fine...anyway logitech makes great stuff so stop being a prick

 

hey have you read what i wrote? Find a mouse that meets those criteria. If you didnt read my post then dont bother replying.

Im sorry, i wasnt aware that everyone on this forum needed to be elected if they wanted to post their opinions on specific topics. I wrongly got the idea that this was an online forum where people shared ideas and thoughts. You are right though, i think this world would be a better place if people just bought poorly designed products instead of trying to come up with ideas on how to improve them. You get a pat on the back for your logic, but the one thing i cant understand is how you figured out how to turn on your computer, let alone use it.

 

apple makes bluetooth mouse. use theirs

 

I would but it fails the 3rd part of the criteria: It would be a pain to use it for most applications. Where is the right mouse button? immediately games are out of the question, not to mention using advanced features with the extra buttons other mice provide. Thanks for the input though this is exactly what im looking for in this thread. +rep.

 

Have you checked out Logitech's new VX nano? It comes pretty close to what you are asking for. The dongle is VERY small and for its size and ergonomics, is very similar to what you are looking for.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104080

 

Why don't you just buy a bundle and be happy?

 

you do not need to use a dongle if your pc has bluetooth in it. (even if one is supplied with it)

 

the vx nano doesnt look so bad. Maybe ill go with that. still gaming will be hell with that :*(

 

You don't need to be elected to voice an opinion, but when you start making comments that encompass all bluetooth users like you're speaking for them, that's where the problem lies.

This is certainly a forum where people can share ideas and thoughts, however it is not a forum where you're allowed to speak on behalf of others and force your ideas upon them.

You just lost the last bit of credibility you had left (and that wasn't very much). Just because *YOU* feel that a product is poorly designed, doesn't mean that a) you're right, b) the product is in fact poorly designed, or c) others agree with you. You're speaking as if your opinion is gospel and everyone should heed your warnings or by struck down by the inferior product design gods.

You get a pat on the back for once again proving that the only idea you care about is your own.

 

Because that idea fails to pass the 10 Commandments test.

 

From my own experience, the Logitech VX and MX series aren't exactly the greatest for gaming. Sure the features are all there, but if you plan on using either more than 3.5 feet away from the receiver (which is unlikley but possible with a notebook) then forget it. The connection isn't lost, just buggy and laggy. The lag is mainly caused when the mouse is stationary for a while and wakes from a sleep state, and you get a half second pause before it moves. Personally I think the G9 is a better option for gaming, despite being an older design. Sure there's no free spinning scroll wheel but there also isn't any lag, and the performance is noticeably better even with greater distances between the receiver and the mouse.

In all, I agree with you in that there is no definitive one size fits all in this market segment, and it makes sense from a manufacturers point: if you make a bluetooth mouse that will work flawlessly and provide the features that are spread evenly into your product lineup, you essentially disintegrate your whole product lineup into a single item. That being said, I wouldn't mind a one man show to get all my mousing needs done: BT, switchable DPI, programmable buttons, free scrolling scroll wheel (Like Logitech revolution series, but not a must I guess), interchangeable Li-Ion battery that fits into the mouse with a standard USB connector, so when I'm using the mouse on 1 battery, I can charge the other. That would be a dream machine right there. The only other extra I could think of would be media buttons (because I'm lazy and want to use my laptop 6-8 feet away while browsing and watching movies and listening to music, but can't be bothered to have a keyboard in my lap, just a mouse).

That went well as far as rants go IMHO...

 

So where is it ? A misleading title and a useless post.

I agree there aren’t that many regular sized BT mice, but still there enough to choose from;


Logitech MX 900


Logitech MX Revolution


Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer for Bluetooth


Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 8000


DELL Bluetooth Mouse

If you look hard enough there are few other branded, and many unbranded BT mice out there...

So, What is wrong with them ??

1. They are all regular sized
2. All Bluetooth
3. Maybe except for Logitech Revolution, all others have standard designs (especially MS and DELL), and they all seems to be quite ergonomic to me.

If none of them fits you, then I think the problem here is not the mice ......... err.... but rather the user

 

Bluetooth mice are available - and yes, with the requirements you describe, by Logitech, Microsoft, and others.

I was tempted to get one, but after reading stories on how the mouse keeps going into powersave mode, meaning it isnt as responsive as a normal mouse, hence making it crap for gaming, put me off..........

 

This thread reminds me of those days back in the Windows 98 era when everybody was making right handed mice...

As a lefty, that irked me something chronic at the time.

 

I'm sure Logidumb, Microgarbage, and Kensingugly are really going to take this pretty useless rant to heart and give you exactly what you're looking for.

It's one thing to complain or state an opinion, but you seem to be dwelling on an issue which, for you, has no solution. I could tell, from a previous thread you started, that nothing on the market at this time was going to make you happy; your tone in some of your posts indicated you'd come to the same conclusion. So my suggestion is: let it go...let it go.

I, for one, have been using my new Microsoft Mobile Memory 8000 in BT mode for a week now, and the thing is awesome!

 

Have you looked INTO these mice? all you have to do is google the subject and you can find countless threads by people who are looking for a BT mouse for general use with the criteria i outlined and cant find one. I said what i said because i saw so many people posting about it on different forums, and thats the general impression that i got. You claim I force my opinions onto anyone? Did i tell you that you MUST agree with me? I MERELY PRESENTED MY OPINION, and i am ENTITLED to it. If you are too much of a dunce to understand the difference then please get educated or stop posting.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=114121
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=179671
http://www.notebookforums.com/thread163466
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/697947.html

thats what a quick 3 minute search reveals. I didnt even bother going further. You did not bother to do any research, so why even argue on something you havent got a clue about? Maybe you have a BT mouse that satisfies YOUR needs but that doesnt mean its the case for everyone else.

And you lost your credibility where instead of trying to prove me wrong by showing a mouse that meets all those criteria, you posted a message attacking my view with no facts. In fact i despise your arrogant attitude that is reflected in your post. (check the bold if you dont know what im talking about).

See the links above, i posted because i had read these and more before i made the original post. So by checking what other people had to say before posting, i was proving that i only care about my opinions/ideas? How about you check what other people have to say before posting garbage on this thread?

In fact im making a personal request to you to never reply to any thread i make.You have got nothing constructive to say and this is not the first thread where it happens, so at least be a gentlemen and dont waste my time.

 

MX900 is discontinued and has flaky Vista support. I looked into this one and i read that people cant map out the buttons on many applications if at all in vista so thats out.

MX revolution is perfect except for the fact it is not blue tooth. Or at least i dont think it is. Logitech website does not mention bluetooth and all users say it comes with the USB dongle. I did find this site saying that it is bluetooth but they are selling it so maybe they got it wrong.

http://www.nexshops.com/931689-0403.html what do you think? it doesnt seem to be BT.

Microsoft laser mouse 8000 is under no circumstances ergonomic. My friend has it and unless someone breaks my right hand with a hammer so it fits the mouse this one is out too.

the other two you pointed out fit most of the criteria. Id lean towards the microsoft intellimouse because it is more ergonomic than the dell (and Ms makes more mice which should make it more reliable).

I do have a MS intellimouse right now with a an adapter (not bt) and i can only describe it as mediocre at best. In fact im buying a new mouse because this one quit on me. It only gets 3 stars on amazon reviews too so obviously (with 60 reviews or so) its not that good....

considering that there IS NOTHING else i might just buy that.

Thanks for a constructive post though, +rep to you.

 

you mean like these? (if you can call these mice).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2010290065+1083007046&name=Bluetooth+Wireless

And yes i have read those issues too but not ALL mice suffer from it only some.

 

Strange. My VX Revolution works well for gaming.There isn't any lag or anything. Maybe mine is just better than the other peoples . The adapter for the VX Rev is small, and can be put inside the mouse. Just stick with that. I looked for a while for a bluetooth mouse that had the criteria you described in your post, but i just gave up and got the vx revolution, since it was heavily discounted.

Anway I think people DO need to complain more to get these companies to make a nice above average products. My perfect mouse would be a bluetooth version of my VX Revolution. Touching that mouse feels like 'touching happy' .

 

i just gave up on getting a BT mouse altogether. Im looking at the logitech G7 and the revolution series at the moment.

Like you and plenty others have said there is no mouse that meets that criteria on the market.

 

And *I'M* the arrogant one? See the bold statement above......oh wait, you did that yourself.

Part of an online forum is dealing with people who differ with your opinion. I've never claimed that you were not allowed to voice yours, but if I disagree with it, I'm going to voice my own.

 

I don't know why the topic creator is getting all butt hurt and taking everything so personally? *shrugs*

That VX revolution or whatever has SUCH a small USB thing it's ridiculous

I wish I could justify 60 bucks for a mouse D:

 

I'm not sure either, but in other threads, he's got his panties in a bunch when someone disagrees with his gospel as well.

Christmas is coming!

 

i just bought the MX revolution for 65$ /w expedited shipping and taxes on amazon. Too bad couldnt get anything BT like i wanted but i guess ill have to make it do.

Bold statement? Asking you not to post because you dont contribute anything is in no way arrogant. Too bad you can not comprehend that.

And i dont mind dealing with people who have opposite opinions, i just get pissed when they throw something out there and fail to provide any factual information to support their point of view, just for the sake of creating an argument. In other words: You are a Troll.

Why do you keep trolling this thread? what is wrong with you? why do you try to add personal insult just for the hell of it ?

All i did was provide counter arguments for your non-sensical posts. no reason to get bitter over that

 

Bold as in ..... BOLD. Hello McFly!?!

If this were a thread that had substance to it in the first place, it might be worth contributing something useful. As it stands, it's a whiney, boo-hoo "I'm the expert on Bluetooth mice and everyone should listen to me" thread. Anyone can paste a picture of a mouse and a Bluetooth icon next to one another. I bet I can create "The Perfect Bluetooth Mouse" too!! Maybe I can even create the Perfect Bluetooth Socks by pasting a picture of each side by side. (They call you when your foot odor reaches a certain level so you know when to change)

You get pissed when someone differs from your opinion or doesn't agree with it. You take it as a personal attack. Rather than acknowledging someone else's opinion, you immediately try discredit it and dismiss it because you don't agree with it. (The thread on Complete Care is a prime example. You essentially called people clumsy pigs who couldn't take care of their laptop simply because they invested in CC.)

Disagreeing with your opinion doesn't make someone a Troll.

P.S. I'm still waiting for some factual information why the mice you flogged all over are crap. Best I can tell, you've compiled a list of personal preferences when it comes to a BT Mouse, preach that because nothing falls within those PREFERENCES, it's crap, and my personal favorite, being "Ugly" somehow affects the functionality. Try again.

 

I find Logitech V470 Bluetooth Cordless Laser Mouse very good.



http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Blue...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1198011347&sr=8-2

Why wouldn't you like this DeusEx?

 

+rep, but this is for notebooks which means its a small mouse note regular sized.


As for you Khris: it is obvious that you dont like me and thats why you came after me. I realized that logically discussing anything with you is pointless since you are a troll. Apparently your life isnt all that exciting if you keep coming back here and posting garbage that clutters up the thread. Have a good day sir

 

Well I'm with the OP in the following regards: I want a good bluetooth REGULAR sized mouse. I am happy enough with a touchpad that I would rather use it versus using a tiny mouse on a surface with limited space. Carrying around a mouse with a couple more cubic centimeters of volume is worth its weight in gold when it comes to using it for any duration longer than 10 minutes.

Oh, and I don't want to buy a bundled keyboard/mouse combo...but I DO want a Logitech. I would really love to have a Logitech MX series with Bluetooth.

 

Liking (or disliking) you had nothing to do with posting in this thread.

Still waiting for your factual information princess. Before calling anyone else a Troll, you should look in the mirror.
I'm sure "Logidumb", "Microgarbage" and "KensingUgly" would agree with me.

 

I didn't realize you were looking one for your desktop. I wonder why they don't have what you are asking for?

 

You're in the same boat as myself and some others here. . I find it hard to believe that no one at logitech thought of a bluetooth VX or MX rev. :'(.

EDIT: I just got promoted to GURU!! Woot!


P.S. Stop fighting guys. Just agree to disagree. Here: Have some of this cake that GLaDOS made for me .

 

Not worthy of a response. Reread the entire thread.

As for the others... there is no solution. I just ordered an MX revolution mouse that has RF and the damned dongle.

 

What's wrong with the MX Laser? It's bluetooth and fits nicely in your hand, also very quick doesn't seam to lag at all like RF mice can

 

what do you mean by mx laser? mx900 ? i thought about that one for a while and it seems like the perfect choice but i use vista and since this mouse is discontinued so is the support for vista.

 

More like you couldn't come up with one.

Sometimes the trade off of a cordless mouse (be it RF or BT) just isn't worth it. I've gone through several cordless mice and I keep coming back to one with a cord as IMO, they work the best.

 

I have this one: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/783&cl=gb,en

But it's bluetooth not RF...

 

No i got more than enough of a response for you, but you are by any standards a fool. Ill type up a logical response and you will keep on rambling and trolling, its what you do. its not worth it.


oh yeah and thanks for sharing that Wired mice work the best. im sure people here didnt know that.

Thats a mx1000 BT. If that was available i wouldve consider buying it but:

1. it only comes in a bundle with the MX5000 keyboard which i dont need.
2. A lot of people are complaining that it loses connection. If this is true i dont know since i dont own it.

 

I mainly use it on my desktop, I don't have built in BT so have to use the dongle, it's fine for the most part, occasionally it drops the connection on boot, but comes back again in a few seconds.

 

I have the Dell BT mouse that I got for my M133O, and I think it's more travel-sized than regular, though I find it reasonably comfortable. Having said that, I would not want to use it all day.

 

I've got the MX1000 BT. Bought a couple of the combos on ebay cheap (one advertised with a dead keyboard). Both mice together cost ~$60. Both work fine. No lost connections here. However, I use them with the Logi BT dongle since I don't yet have built in BT. Will with my next laptop.

 

The Dell BT mouse is very uncomfortable for less than large hands; it has a very long body and a high hump at the back. I have one and only use it when my batteries go out on the laser mouse -- just very uncomfortable. Mind you, my MX Revolution is actually a larger mouse but very comfortable. It is a LASER mouse, by the way. It is NOT bluetooth!!! I've actually gotten quite comfortable using a Razer DeathAdder CORDED mouse for gaming on my laptop (never travels).

How is this relevent? Well, I have the same rants about bluetooth mice as far as the either tiny or crappy designs of most of them. But, both laser and bt have problems with cutting in and out, or getting "choppy" sometime while gaming, if you have something blocking either the radio signal or the laser between the mouse and the receiver.

I didn't see in your posts whether you travel with your notebook or not. If you don't, the DeathAdder is a great option, since bluetooth really needs some improvement in both reliability, performance and physical design before it gets up to par with laser mice, let alone corded mice.

In a nutshell, I feel like I wasted money on the bluetooth card in my lappy.

 

i never travel but i feel the same way: bluetooth was a waste of money. I should have checked for BT devices before i bought it...

I guess my phone can still use it so its not a complete waste... but its a huge disappointment.

 

well personally i think the Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer for Bluetooth is the perfect mouse (still would prefer it if a little bit bigger) definetly the best mouse i have ever used. i just wish i could still buy them as been needing a new mouse for travelling with the lappy. best mouse ever in my opinion.

 

I have one but its not BT and recently quit on me. Maybe my hands are different or something but i just dont find it comfortable. I already ordered a logitech mx revolution mouse from amazon, but +rep for the input man i appreciate it.

 

Must admit, whilst I'm not quite as upset as the OP, I do feel your pain.

I have an XPS 1710 and game on that alot. I've tried the M'soft RF mice and didn't get enough sensitivity out of them. I bought the Logitech G7 believing it was the be all and end all of gaming wirelessly but it's really buggy. Dies on me completely at least once every session so I'm usually dead by the time I unplug and replug the dongle to get it working again. It also has an unusably stiff centre wheel... the changeable DPI settings are surprisingly useful actually, but all in all it's not worth the $'s imo.

I'm keen to try a BT mouse, would love to lose the dongle! There must be a reason why no one has made a gaming BT mouse...

 

This thread is a little out of control and there is some flaming going on here. It'll be closed now. Have a nice day.

-Niki