I have a laptop from a work colleague who asked me to look at it and fix it.
The history (according to her). It had its Motherboard replaced. She recieved it from a friend for free because it didn't work and she was told it needed a motherboard.
$160 dollars later, the Dell Studio 1735 has a new motherboard but it won't boot up. It shuts down at the bios load screen. I immediately identify it as overheating. I place the laptop over an Air Conditioning vent to verify. I can run the entire Dell Diagnostics, but can't access the drive. If I take the Laptop off of the vent, it will shut down w/in 20 seconds.
OK, so I disasembled the laptop and noticed there are about 8 screws missing. There was thermal paste under the Heatsink, I reseated the Merom T5800 CPU SLB6E (Dell service tag identifies it as a Penryn) reapplied AS5. The Video Card pad is intact. I reseated the RAM for S&^% and Giggles. And inspected the HDD connection to find the Data Cable is broken.
Ok, now the physical visual damaged is assessed and I know its overheating, but this is where I am stuck. I can't really see where the Heatsink is not making contact with the CPU ( I believe it is) but the mating surface of the HSF looks like it was made for a larger Die on the CPU. Could the person that did the Mobo swap possibly have swapped the chip? I looked at the Intel data and I appears that there is only a Merom T5800 and no Penryn T5800.
Ok, so the Sata connector is broken and I have a connector on its way. I tried a Dell "thermal pad" between the cpu and HSF, that was a waste. Its just thermal compound and not an actual pad. 5 dollars wasted. I am going to try a new Heatsink, but I can't imagine for the life of me why the current one would be broken.
There is no way to see the temps in Bios, so I will have to wait for the Sata Cable to boot into windows and run CPUz/Everest/Realtemp for some temp values. Am I missing something for overheating on these laptops? Is there a chronic Temp sensor problem? I am currently at A03 Bios, but I will upgrade them as soon as I can get into windows.
Please help.
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Thanks for the quick response. I am still in preliminary checks. The part # from dell coincides with what is in the laptop. I can only imagine that somehow the heat is not transfering properly. I ordered the official thermal pad (thermal compound) which like I said looked like Arctic Silver, so that has been tried. I ordered another heatsink to give that a try, I found one for 8 dollars. I am exhausting the cheap fixes first.
The big hassle is there is no temperature values in bios like most computers these days have, so I can not accurately tell if its the CPU overheating or maybe a SB or NB overheating problem. I just know that over the AC vent it runs fine. -
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I also found differing service tags on the bottom of the laptop as well as in the bios (for the Mobo).
This is an Asian Mobo, and it took a Intel P8300 is that the chip with the bigger die? The one I ordered is the part number from the Dell Site for the Penryn Chip.
Wow, what has this person gotten into. I wonder if the HS doesn't properly fit. I hope the new one screws down the same way. -
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Hrm, she still has the old Motherboard I believe, but after tinkering around with it, I'd imagine the warranty would be voided.
When looking at the two HS they look almost identical from pictures. Probably only a part number would show the difference. Maybe just re badged for a newer Mobo.
I also may try shimming it later if I can get a hold of some copper shim material. I wonder if the Bios reads the chip sensors differently. If a 8300 runs warmer, you would expect this chip to be cooler. Same TDP so you would expect pretty much the same temps. -
No one? Any ideas?
Is there anyone here with a Dell hook-up that could ask about compatibility between the American and Asian Dell 1735? Even when I look around for the exact H268K motherboard that is listed by the chassis service tag, I don't see any reference to that in part numbers for sale, so either they don't make it or it is sold under a different Dell Part number.
I see references to a H267K and a H274K. I would think if everything plugs in and turns on, then it would be compatible. I also noticed that the CD rom is powered up, but when I try to insert a disk it continues to spit it out. Might just be a configuration problem, but it may create a hassle in installing a OS, in case the Hard drive is not working. I am starting to think that this is a little more than "the motherboard issue".
I am stumped.
Discussion in 'Dell' started by Brutal-Force, Oct 9, 2010.