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    Interesting little read...

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by jak2, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. jak2

    jak2 Notebook Consultant

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    While searching for something, I came across a interesting read about our shipment of dell products. As of now, China Airline leaves Taipei to Nashville Tennessee to deliver our laptop 6 times a week. I was wondering if the article is credible because it seemed very biased against foreign pilots. Anyways, read the article here.

    Interesting Quotes:

    "Six times a week, under the cover of darkness, a China Airlines 747 arrives in Nashville to deliver 60 tons of cargo to one of America's largest computer manufacturers.." America's largest computer manufacturer, hmmm who can that be? Also notice the shipment arrive at night if what they describe are correct.

    "The 2,500 UPS pilots have an unblemished safety record. China Airlines uses foreign aircrews that are not required to go through the same background checks as American pilots"

    "In the last decade, China Airlines has lost four wide-body jets at the cost of 688 lives. China Airlines' latest crash in May of 2002 was a Boeing 747 bound for Hong Kong that broke up in mid-flight, killing all 225 aboard."

    The last quote kinda freaked me out.
     
  2. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    And now we know whom not to fly with. o_o
     
  3. NapalmDeath

    NapalmDeath Notebook Consultant

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    American desires for cheap laptops is killing Chinese pilots.
    Wouldn't be the first group of people we killed to save a buck.
     
  4. XxXKUL

    XxXKUL Notebook Consultant

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    Yikes, didn't like the last quote. Looks like I'm flying hooters airlines
     
  5. chuck232

    chuck232 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Well, if you cross off all airlines with disasters from you flying list, you'd better not fly with:

    Alitalia
    Ryan Air
    United Airlines
    US Air
    TWA
    El Al
    Miranair
    Japan Air Lines
    Lufthansa
    American Airlines
    Korean Airlines
    Swissair
    etc.

    Need I go on? I just picked some of the more well-known airlines too.
     
  6. mrkuji

    mrkuji Notebook Geek

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    "In the last decade, China Airlines has lost four wide-body jets at the cost of 688 lives. China Airlines' latest crash in May of 2002 was a Boeing 747 bound for Hong Kong that broke up in mid-flight, killing all 225 aboard."

    Yeah but how many Dell's were lost.. ;-)
     
  7. XxXKUL

    XxXKUL Notebook Consultant

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    well China air doesn't even screen their pilots, as taking from what jak2 posted. I'm pretty at least 3/4 of those airlines do and the crashes are from mechanical error.
     
  8. chuck232

    chuck232 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Yeah, and a 747 breaking up in mid-air must be pilot error. Oh wait....

    The article referenced is clearly biased. First off, it's published by the IPA - of which UPS flight crews are a part of. Clearly they're not pleased that their aircrews aren't getting the work, instead some random Chinese person's able to fly in for a fraction of what their (UPS) pilots are paid.

    Furthermore, they state that the aircrews don't have proper background checks, then they go on to state that "Night after night China Airlines flies cargo into America that has not been screened to the to the U.S. standard, if it has been screened at all". How'd it go from pilots not being screened to cargo not being screened? If the outsourced flight deliveries are not being screened, that's hardly China Airlines' fault. Perhaps UPS would elaborate how they check inventory at their Nashville facility?

    Funny how so many people are opposed to this. I mean if this were the results to an impeachment hearing, the President would get thrown out instantly. But chances are the survey was heavily biased and improperly worded to the point of invalidity. I can just imagine how the question was worded, ' Since the China Airlines pilots are not screened, there is the possibility they could be a member of a terrorist organization. How comfortable are you with these people flying cargo planes into the US?'

    I'm surprised they didn't get 100% opposition. :rolleyes:
     
  9. joec63

    joec63 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Oh give me a break, I hope you're being sarcastic. I see your part of the blame America first crowd! You didn't have ANY problem ordering one of those cheap laptops.
     
  10. blackeagle

    blackeagle Notebook Guru

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    ok and well why should we care?