Is this true about dell ram?

I want to purchase the E1505,but I hear the ram is the worst quality out there.I want to buy 2 gigs of ram,but many people say that 2gigs equals about 1 gig normal ram is this true?Is dell's hardware crapp?

 

Well, I don't know about that. If I were you I would get 1gb, maybe even 512gb and then go to newegg. See what the others say first tho.

 

dell's ram is pretty crappy compared to brands like crucial, corsair, etc. it is made by a korean company, named hyundai or something like that. but to say 2gig is equal to 1gig doesnt make sense to me at all.

 

you won't have any idea who the manufacturer of the RAM is until you get the laptop....(I've had two e1705s, one was Infineon) it won't be premium brand name and ready for overclocking (doesn't matter for e1505 anyhow) but it will be 100% "normal" and fully functioning, warrantied and guaranteed.

 

People say some RAM is way better or worse then other RAM (and I'm not gonna rgue that) but in practice, unless you are doign some seriously intense stuff it's probably not going to make a difference-and if your getting an E1505 I'm assuming you arent doing any workstation-class things or any super intense gaming either... so it should be perfectly fine no matter what RAM is in there.

 

i won't be doing intense gaming only like battlefield 2 on mid settings and america's army,is that fine?

 

The timings on the ram is the same as any other ram you are gonna buy. It's a notebook, not a desktop. It's not like you can OC it, any ram with the same timing is fine as long as it runs

 

The RAM that dell uses is usually more off-brand RAM... If the RAM is DDR2 667mhz it will perform like DDR2 667mhz. The RAM does not make a difference. It's the quality. This off-brand RAM is not built as well as Crucial, Corsair, or Kingston etc. As long as your notebook is under warranty with dell though, you should be fine. I would recommend upgrading RAM after market for a couple reasons. 1) It's much cheaper (usually). 2) It's better quality brand name RAM. 3) Your going to get a lifetime warranty on the new RAM you buy, if its a brand name...

 

The e1705 (Inspiron 9400) is so cheap compared to other notebooks, that you know Dell had to cut corners somewhere. You figure they buy in bulk and save money that way, but you can't expect top notch equipment. They offer high quality CPU and Vid Card,and have to cut corners somewhere, so my guess is that RAM, Hard Drive, and optical drive all take a quality hit.

 

Also remember that Dell's RAM prices are considerably higher, than what you can get at another retailer, like newegg, or zipzoomfly. .

 

This is physically impossible. If you order 2GB's and the machine that arrives says 2GB's in the System area, then you are getting 2GBs of RAM.

The question of if Dell brand ram is cheaply made, of course it is. They have to produce RAM for thousands of notebooks/desktops they sell each month.

IF you can afford to (and have the expertise, time) to upgrade a dell unit after arrival, you can assure yourself of higher speed or better quality aftermarket ram

 

In general dell charges 2-3 times as much as it costs to upgrade RAM aftermarket. For example it costs like $100 to upgrade from 512 to 1GB. For $40 you could buy a 512MB stick and have a total of 1GB for only $40 extra vs $100. Dell makes most of their money on upgrades... They charge much more then it actually costs to upgrade the RAM, CPU and HD.

 

Yes they r pretty cheap and full of errors! When I first got the system I had bluescreen every time I use it, and I was not satisfied with the amout of RAM (512MB = 256MBx2) so I bought 512MBx2 = 1GB of RAM and a better brand (Kingstone). My laptop came with Dell RAM which has a brand called (Infineon) never heard of it... and it was assebled in china.

 

I have a question, what is the difference between the 533MHz and the 633MHz RAM is there a big difference if they are in dual channel mode?

 

First, what your friend probably meant was that 1G from Dell cost as much as 2G, not that 2G of Dell Ram physically performed like 1G of RAM.

And, Dell Ram is expensive. Unless you need 2G, you'd be fine with 1G. And, if you catch them in the 36% off, the difference in the 512M and 1G option isn't much of a difference anyway. I can't imagine you needing anymore than 1G right now for what you want to do.

 

There is a slight difference between 533mhz and 667mhz RAM. The 667mhz RAM is about 20% faster. If it's not to expensive of an upgrade go for the faster RAM. Or just get the notebook with the stock 512MB's of 533mhz then upgrade aftermarket and don't use the 512 stick. You can get 1GB DDR2 667mhz sticks for around $70-80 now...

 

20% faster? Link Please Mine bench marked about 2% slower over my 533 ram due to CAS latency and bandwidth.

 

No actually my friend meant that 2 gigs of dell ram is same quality as 1 gig of a nice brand name company.Is that true?

 

Well I had no issues. My Dell hynix ram is made by one of the top oversea makers. AFAIK all ram is make in Korea/China. There are many debates on top tier and value ram.

Now Dell ram is not the cheapest, as other have said, for a notebook and no OC, waranteed ram is ram; get if from places like newegg.

 

Check out this review; http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=2766

They say not.

 

That statement in no way makes any sense.

Have your friend clarify what he meant. If he really meant exactly what you typed, he's not the brightest bulb.

 

nope thats what he exactly meant,I asked him 10 times in a row, i even showed him this thread,its exactly what it meant.

 

Last I comment on this, because your friends reasoning ability is in question.

But, what he has said is basically two lower quality items equals one higher quality item. It's an incredibly absurd statement.

I'm not sure he (or you) understand what quality means. If you believe Dell ram is of lower quality, simply bumping up to a higher amount doesn't ever increase the quality of the product delivered. It just means you have more lower quality product.

If he means 1G of someone elses ram would outperform 2G of Dells ram, that is also patently false. But, that isn't what he said either.

Not trying to be mean, just pointing out its impossible to answer a question with such a severe lack of logic put into forming it in the first place.

 

LOL - I gather that he ment 2 gigs of crappy dell memory has the same performance of 1 gig of the high price stuff?

I was sort of reading between the lines there

 

yup thats what he meant

 

This reminds me about how the sales at my local CC kept telling me how Monster cables were supposed to be much better than others, but a cheap generic cable I bought with 1/3 of the cost of Monster cable runs just as fast and reliable.

What your friend said doesn't make much sense, or he probably had no clue what he was talking about. Maybe he meant some programs showed no perfomrance gain with 2GB Dell memory and 1GB of other memory, in that case most likely it has nothing to do with the brand of the memory, rather it's the software that doesn't take advantage of the extra ram.

If your friend insists that one brand performs twice as fast as the other brand (providing they are the same type of memory), why don't you ask him to back up his claim with some proof?

 

first, dell ram isn't the highest quality (by quality i mean the odds of a DOA stick are higher, but again, the "quality" of ram, if it works, doesn't really matter unless you are a hardcore gamer or you use workstation stuff) and it costs more. So i have no clue why you would get it. Secondly, what credentials does this friend have? (not that i have any, but i also don't spout out incorrect information) stop listening to him.. he is one of those idiots that buys hardcore into the name on things. Dells ram is fine, but its over priced. Just go to newegg.com or zipzoomfly.com... and stop listening to your friend

 

dell use to have decent ram. I have the samsung ones which is like the ultimate flash producer. but nowadays they use hynix. blehhhh, even the name spells crappy

 

yea lol i am going to show him this thread,yea basically he thinks that 1 gig of for example kingston ram will out perform 2 gigs of dell.

 

I'm not sure what your friend means by his statements. Essentially, so long as the ram is serviceable it all performs about the same. Funny thing is people can be running "bad" ram and they don't even know it. I figure so long as the RAM passes the memtest86 for a period of 24 hours it should be fine.

The only scenario where high performance comes into play is overclocking. In this situation you're usually tying to run the memory at a frequency higher or lower than the rated frequency. For example, if you need to run at a 800MHz speed and you're using 677MHz rated ram to do it. In these situations heat sinks an good quality parts are important.

Aside from that think of it this way. Lets say you have a box, it would represent 1 GB and you need it to move things from point a to point b. Now you have 2 GB which would be represented by two boxes where each is as big as the first. It doesn't really matter that the 1 GB is of higher performance, i.e. within the same speed rating lets say 667 MHZ, the two GB will be able to transfer or hold more at a time making it better. However if all you really need is the one box, the second one doesn't really make a difference