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    LG screen better than Samsung?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by PanamaMike, May 20, 2006.

  1. PanamaMike

    PanamaMike Notebook Evangelist

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    I've seen some claims saying the LG screen is better. Are there any specs. for these screens? In my experience Samsung as supposed to be better.

    Is there any way to ensure a newly build laptop would have one LCD vs. another?

    Mike
     
  2. varun55

    varun55 Notebook Guru

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    I've previously had two e1505's with the Samsung LCD.

    The first one had the horrible "shimmer" issue, so I returned it for a new one hoping the new LCD would be better. Nope, the secone one I got was even worse - had horrible light leakage and dark corner.

    Now, my THIRD e1505 came with an LG (thank god) and is much better then two previous one Samsung's. The screen has very little light leakage and the overall picture quality seems better.

    I'm not saying all Samsungs LCD's are bad, it's just the two I got weren't as good as the LG I have now.
     
  3. nickster87

    nickster87 Notebook Consultant

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    I have a Samsung screen and there is some very light leakage at the bottom, but overall I am very impressed. I guess I got lucky. :)
     
  4. Train_Tires

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    How do you know what screen you have?
     
  5. stupid_nut

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    XD570 LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY, 15.4WSXGA+, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC., GLARE WIDE VIEWING ANGLE, LENGTH/LONG

    Whats my screen?

    I just got my laptop a few days ago. Some light leakage at bottom and top, looks fine on regular use but on dvds its horrible. Lower right hand side has a dark spot. I'm kinda dissapointed, other screens I've seen at stores seem better.

    I thought this was just a characteristic of widescreen lcds cause I never used any LCDs much but now I know its not normal. Even staring at the screen from head on its not a uniform brightness. If I want to see something to left or right I gotta move my head. So I'm guess I have the crappy Samsung now?

    Its like there is no right viewing angle! Ahh ahh!
     
  6. Fountainhead

    Fountainhead Notebook Deity

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    If you go to Dell Support and put in your service tag, then select Original System Configuration from the drop down box, you can see the specifics of your components. Go through the list, the screen will be listed somewhere.

    For example mine reads: MODULE, LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY, 14.1WXGA, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC., LG PHILIPS LCD, A/D ...so I have the LG display.
     
  7. stupid_nut

    stupid_nut Notebook Consultant

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    That doesnt always work because mine just says: XD570 LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY, 15.4WSXGA+, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC., GLARE WIDE VIEWING ANGLE, LENGTH/LONG

    But I'm getting mine is the Samsung because of the problems I've noticed.
     
  8. themaxx

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    I have the Samsung on my 9400 and by default, the colors looks washed out, due the the screen/colors been to bright.

    Once I created a color profile with Adobe Gamma to caliber the screen, the light leakage is pretty much gone. As far as color calibration, that has to be the worst screen I have ever seen. Although, once calibrated the screen is a real delight! I never had to modify the RGB values as much for a screen before. The blue was way off...

    I also noticed that the screen looks a bit better when in a room with a moderate daylight. Artificial lights and dark room doesn't serves the screen as good. Under daylight, the colors are more rich and vivid...
     
  9. Mag-Lite

    Mag-Lite Notebook Guru

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    This is the screen I have on my 1505 that I just bought and received in the mail Monday. According to Dell it does not seem to be samsung or LG,

    CD514 LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY, 15.4WXGA, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC., AU OPTRONICS CORP
     
  10. vespoli

    vespoli 402 NBR Reviewer

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    My 1505 has the same screen, can anyone offer any insight as to what type of screen this is? Perhaps a third manufacturer?
     
  11. stupid_nut

    stupid_nut Notebook Consultant

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    That is my screen as well, I assumed it was Samsung cause I think it kinda sucks.

    I wonder if they let you specify a screen if you exchange it.
     
  12. PanamaMike

    PanamaMike Notebook Evangelist

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    AUO is a chinese LCD manufacturer, supposed to be the 3rd largest in the world.
    Not the same thing as Samsung.
     
  13. Jumbie

    Jumbie Notebook Geek

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    Glad I ordered a monitor colour calibrator [hardware] then.

    I normally just do it with Adobe gamma as well but was thinking about getting slightly more serious into photo editing and spent $95 to get the Spyder2 Express. Obviously not as good as some of the more expensive solutions out there but hope it's worth it.

    Even if it just helps with the leakage, it'd be worth it to me rather than going back and forth with Dell trying to get them to send me an LG screen.
     
  14. stupid_nut

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    Anybody know what the part number for the LG is? If I try to get mine replaced I will try to ask for LG with its part number.

    I still dont know which one I have.

    XD570 LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY, 15.4WSXGA+, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC., GLARE WIDE VIEWING ANGLE, LENGTH/LONG
     
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    kgbeezr1 Notebook Consultant

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    I'm on my 2nd LG screen (X9065) in an M170 and they've both sucked. Dim, copious amounts of shimmer, moderate light leakage, and very poor viewing angle. From straight on the corners are dim, move your head to the left and the right gets darker, left get's lighter, move your head to the right and the opposite happens. You would need eyes that extend out a few inches to the sides of your head to see an evenly lit screen. Just inexcusably poor quality and a terrible match for such an awesome machine. If it were a $500 Gateway I could understand. I'd hate to see what the Samsung's look like.
     
  16. stupid_nut

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    Exactly the same as me, at least the moving the head part. I'm gonna try to get it replaced tomorrow. I checked and I do have an LG also.
     
  17. PanamaMike

    PanamaMike Notebook Evangelist

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    That's not very encouraging information. It might be the way DELL implements the screen that's causing the problem. Bad electronics or poor calibration can lead to poor performance from the panel.

    Considering all the vendor panels have been reported as sucking, I'd suspect th e PC instead of the panel itself.

    Mike
     
  18. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    that seems pretty logical

    the sager 5720 uses the same samsung panel as is used in the dell 9300, but ive always head it described as perfect and never even heard of someone turning it back in.

    mass production must damage more of them used in dells, or wiring to the lcd must be different.
     
  19. KManZ

    KManZ Notebook Consultant

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    Other places I read said the LGs are the better screens. I had a Samsung on the last E1705 I just returned, and it was pretty good.. on the next E1705 I am set to get an LG. I hope it is as good as the Samsung was!
     
  20. stupid_nut

    stupid_nut Notebook Consultant

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    Just got in an order for replacement! Turns out the original was an LG, it sucked. I hope I get an LG next time also, but one that doesnt suck.
     
  21. stamar

    stamar Notebook Prophet

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    that is something that requires further research

    because samsung screens have the letters auo in their description number

    ive never heard of dell using lcds from a company called auo, unless this is very recent which is indeed possible.

    the inspirons of the last year, used lg then samsung and now back to lg.

    edit well auo is a taiwanese lcd maker. and must be the newest lcd maker in inspirons.

    why im making this a side project to figure out ok, is that samsung screen used in the e1705 is the most expensive on the market by a big jump although who knows what dell pays. if somehow the lg makes it through with fewer defects there are fewer complaints and it gets a better word of mouth rating.
    samsung makes expensive stuff not cheap stuff. other than the forum chatter i hear about samsung 17 inch screens being the crappy ones


    if i ordered a e1705 id want to know what is going down. its not enough that its a great deal, 1250 large is real cash
     
  22. Reserching+++

    Reserching+++ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I think that's the problem with Dell's build quality.

    I've seen many Samsung & LG screens on other laptops (IBM, Samsung, etc)

    and they were great.
     
  23. kgbeezr1

    kgbeezr1 Notebook Consultant

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    Agreed. I sincerely think it might be an issue with the specific grade of screen that Dell chooses to use as well though. The X9065 that I have is usually said to be of poor quality (more often than not). Yet the WC222 that some other owners have had, also made by LG, has been said to be one of the best that they've seen, period. Just an example that different models from the same manufacturer seem to vary greatly. There are a lot of specs on LCD's that never get published, at least on the websites of the notebook manufacturers like Dell. It makes it impossible to compare. Not that specs could indicate the presence of light leakage and shimmer (that I know of), but they can be a good indicator of brightness and contrast, among other things.
     
  24. stupid_nut

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    Okay well I got my replacement laptop today.

    I havent really played with it much. New display has a slightly better viewing angle. Cept the corners at the bottom are darker then the old screen. So I guess in that department is better. But now this new screen has a sparkle effect (streaking) that's more noticible then the old one.

    :(

    I havent seen any other E1505 WSXGA screen so I dont know if it actually is any better. Should I just accept that Dell screens just arent that great and live with it?
     
  25. varun55

    varun55 Notebook Guru

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    No, request for a replacment LCD. That 'sparkle' effect is annoying.
     
  26. beachum

    beachum Notebook Enthusiast

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    just curious - i checked my original order descrption and it says "Quantas" anyone have that one? My screen seems perfectly fine. Very little light leakage so far after almost 3 months - barely noticable except at Windows start up.
     
  27. xman

    xman Notebook Guru

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    I'm not sure if this is relevant as comparison, my sis few months old LG fridge's transparent tray bend naturally caused by cold temperature inside :D At least, that happened to hers. Maybe it's an isolated incident.
     
  28. stupid_nut

    stupid_nut Notebook Consultant

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    I might do that. How does that work? Dell send some guy to replace? Or do I do it myself? I wonder if I can request them to bring 2 for me to choose. This is frustrating.

    I went to the Apple Store and the Sony store to look at the screens, its not just in my head.
     
  29. varun55

    varun55 Notebook Guru

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    Only way to get it is to either for Dell to ship you a new (replacment) laptop, or just request a new LCD through Dell. Hopefully they don't give you any problems.
     
  30. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    I havent recieved mine yet,
    Module,Liquid Crystal Display 15.4WS+,SMSN,Glare Wide Viewing Angle,6400

    any way to tell what it will be?
     
  31. KManZ

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    I have an LG screen on this replacement E1705, and so far it is ALOT better than the Samsung screen I had a few weeks ago. There was a little light leakage along the bottom and top initially, but that has all but faded away. Looking straight on, the color is pretty much even, no "shimmer" that i can see.

    I am very happy with this Dell, except for the Sony DVD drive... so loud and obnoxious.
     
  32. stupid_nut

    stupid_nut Notebook Consultant

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    Oh so you gotta do it yourself? I thought they sent somebody over to do it for you? How hard/easy is it to replace it yourself?

    Need the part number to determine that.
     
  33. erlaptop

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    Interesting!!
    I'm about to order the e1705 from dell, so the LG is the one to go for, is that what you guys are saying and when I make my order how do get to Dell to put that screen on will I have to cust. service or what are the steps to do it, I will order on line hopefully I can use the Dell coupon or can I make my order on the phone and still be able to use the coupon?
     
  34. KManZ

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    I would say that screen quality is pretty subjective to the owner and what they consider "perfect". ie.. Some may not consider light leakage a big deal while others may end up pulling their hair out over it!

    That being said, in my opinion, my LG screen looks alot better than the Samsung screen I had. Who knows, if I ordered more computers with each screen, any of them could look better or worse than the other.

    Honestly I think it is a crap shoot, my friend. If you call Customer Service, half the time they don't know squat about the item you are ordering; the other half of the time it is difficult to understand them.
     
  35. sonyfxa36

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    samsung is better then LG its 2x Brighter on My D810
     
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    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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  37. stamar

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    the screens they are talking about are quite different

    the worst screens on this chassis were definitely the wxga lgs that were shipped with um 9300? and those were all replaced, samsung became the lcd maker and samsung screens really raised the price.

    now i see its gone backwards and more users like the lg screens. i know the parts on the open market the samsung costs much more, not a little more like 200 more. it just seems to be faulty much more often in this application.

    this is my opinion...
     
  38. ronss

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    my inspiron 6400 has the quanta screen,,,very happy with it..no dead pixels or light leakage.
     
  39. stupid_nut

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    So anybody know my screen replacement question? Do they come to my house to do it? Or do they just send in a screen for me to do it myself.
     
  40. sonyfxa36

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    chances are if ur machine is under warranty a tech will do it
    unless u request POS Parts Only Service
     
  41. Ninjak

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    Just got my E1505 last night with the WSXGA+ screen option, which Dell is naturally listing as:

    LIQUID CRYSTAL DISPLAY, 15.4WSXGA+, VIDEO ELEC. STDS. ASSOC., GLARE WIDE VIEWING ANGLE, LENGTH/LONG

    ...which doesn't help much. I'll be doing some more thorough examination tonight, but so far no dead pixels and viewing angles are great, but i seem to have some light leakage limited to the bottom left corner of the screen. Naturally, especially since the Start button is there, I don't see it at all when I boot into XP, but I imagine it'd be quite noticeable during a widescreen movie with the black border or perhaps during a game. Given that, I wonder if it's even worth the hassle to get swapped out, especially on the chance that this could be better than what I get. If they personally came by to swap out the panel (esp so it'd be easy to quickly compare with the tech there, that'd be great) or sent me one that I could get installed at a Dell-authorized facility, that'd be fine, but it doesn't seem worth the trouble to ship away the unit and wait for it to return, otherwise. Anyone else had it in just a corner as opposed to the bottom or top middle?
     
  42. sonyfxa36

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    well 90 percent of dell laptops have light leakage its normal just dead pixels and brighter spots on the screen are defects
     
  43. Ninjak

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    Agreed. It pretty much comes down to what's acceptable light leakage versus not. Depending on how much of it there is and its location, I can see it being a dealbreaker for some. If I were working with predominantly dark colors in the lower lefthand screen, I'm sure I'd be annoyed, but in my case I'll only ever see that during letterboxed movies anyway. It can be very subjective. But sometimes it takes a professional tech to officially tell you when you should "Just live with it, it's fine" vs "No, it really shouldn't be like this, even if you think it's okay".
     
  44. stupid_nut

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    Dont swap it out! Light leakage is nothing! If you swap it out you might get one with bad viewing angles like both of mine. Thats a lot worse then light leakage and will actually make your eyes hurt. So keep it!
     
  45. lumberbunny

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    Can anyone tell me which manufacturer makes the part number YD505? It's a 17" WUXGA+ with Truelife for an E1705. I've scoured the Dell parts site but can't seem to find out which it is.

    Thanks
     
  46. stupid_nut

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    I was chatting with a Dell person, apparently they wont replace my screen because of the bad viewing angle. Apparently the bad screen is the "normal viewing of the LCD on the Inspiron 6400". Then I got a connection time out and it dropped the chat. I'm going to complain again, maybe something will happen, this screen shimmer is annoying as anything as well. Grr.
     
  47. stupid_nut

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    Okay WOW! Dell sucks!

    So I got my replacement LCD today. They sent the wrong one! WXGA instead of WSXGA! GAH!

    New screen is Quantas btw, looks pretty good, just a pinkish hue.

    Maybe 4th time is the charm!
     
  48. Ed2006

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    Ok just order the e1705 wish me luck on the screen talked to custumer rep. about putting the lg and they said that they dont know what the manufactory will put and they can make the request is that true?
    And second does anybody that order it can tell me what they put on your part 3 for the screen trying to compare to mine? my number says it's LCD Panel 17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
    17UXGAS [320-4559], can anyone confirm that greatly apreciated.
     
  49. Jumbie

    Jumbie Notebook Geek

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    Chances of getting a specific screen are slim to none.

    You may luck out but that's all it'd likely be - luck; not anything specific the rep did.

    I've been monitoring the Dell notebookforums.com since early 2004 and that's the sad truth.
     
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    I'm sitting at my new e1705 (WUXGA+), and the screen is pretty awful! Very uneven backlighting and leakage out several inches from the top and bottoms. In fact the black level (brightness) is all around way too high. But most annoying is the very predominant sparkling.

    Powerstrip says this is a Seiko-Epson screen. I think I'll play the screen lottery once or twice, but beyond that... : /
     
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