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    Longevity of Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 Hybrid 750GB

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by etcetera, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    My Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 Hybrid 750GB is about 6 years old. How long do these hybrid drives last?
    Should I expect failure any day now?

    Wondering if I should upgrade to an SSD. I cloned the drive to another (bigger) 1TB HDD to preserve the data if the machine crashes.

     
  2. Arrrrbol

    Arrrrbol Notebook Deity

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    I would change it to be on the safe side. If its lasted 6 years its clearly a reliable drive, but after that time the head, motor etc will be wearing out. It could last 10 years for all you know, but would you take the risk to keep using it if it failed tomorrow? SSDs are the best choice for both speed and reliability, but keep hold of the old drive. You can use it as an emergency back up.
     
  3. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I got the laptop in 2014, used and I have no idea how old it was at that point.
     
  4. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I installed CrystalDisk software, it revealed I have 15,300 hours on the hybrid 750GB drive. Looks like I have about 5000 hours on it until failure, statistically.
     
  5. kojack

    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    Same as any drive really. I have it's newer faster brother in my machine. Its awesome...
     
  6. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I am contemplating running this HD until it fails as I have all the data on the second HDD in the machine.. via snapshot. Macrium Reflect.

    So if the primary HD goes bad, I have a week-old snapshot.
     
  7. kojack

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    Cool. Run it. Its fine. Pretty well I have everything I do stored in onedrive.
     
  8. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @etcetera mine ran great for many years before getting a new owner. Backups are important regardless of drive age. I recommend waiting a bit for SSD prices to drop before upgrading to SSD.
     
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  9. D.Dastardly

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    Have mine for over 4 years, still OK, but compared to more modern SSHDs these are pretty sluggish. And noisier.

    A premium HDD used for data transfer is faster than this drive.
     
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    chrisholland03 Notebook Geek

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    For what it's worth - I have an XT 750GB in service since Jan'12. Still running strong, no issues. I keep regular backups, plan on riding it out until it dies.
     
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  11. kojack

    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    Yes, the videos I posted were using the xt drives. Speeds of HDDs have peaked. Speeds of SSHD are increasing, as are SSD. So, those videos are a few years old now, and so, My new firecuda 2tb is faster than what are on those videos however, the HDD drives stay the same speed. The speed gap between the two are growing.
     
  12. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    Update. The hard drive is still running and still used on a daily basis.

    I did install another HDD and cloned the primary one. So if the unreliable HDD fails, I have a backup.
     
  13. kojack

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    You won't have to worry. It's solid!
     
  14. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I am waiting for the price on Samsung 850 Evo 2.5" SATA to come down. The 1TB version sounds like a great replacement for it.
     
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    If it is working, and you are fine with the speed, I would not bother. It's not going to just up and die. But if you NEED the speed increase over the SSHD then it's a good option.
     
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    Still keeps running with no issues. It's not my primary machine so no reason to spend funds to upgrade it to latest-greatest.
     
  17. kojack

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    Yep...no issues at all with mine either. Getting ready to install a 1tb into my wifes dell soon. Been busy and never got around to it.
     
  18. Aivxtla

    Aivxtla Notebook Evangelist

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    With only like 8GB NAND yeah it (the flash) can/may wear out relatively fast depending on usage conditions, but once the flash wears out it simply operates like a regular HDD so don't worry about the drive as a whole actually failing.
     
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  19. kojack

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    My firecuda has a 5 year warranty, I am guessing the "reliability" of the 8gb NAND is much more durable than older models. I am on year 2 now, of heavy use and it's still much faster than my HDD in the same device.
     
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  20. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    I see that the 1TB Samsung 850 SSD 2.5" is about $170 now, is that a good buy? To replace the Seagate Momentus XT ST750LX003 that's there now?
     
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    The Micron 1100 (parent of Crucial) is ~$250 for 2TB and it's probably a better buy. Check slick deals.
     
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    @etcetera both Samsung 850 and Micron 1100 are decent options. 2TB for $250 is obviously is better deal.
     
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  24. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    Interesting.

    I think I would be happy with a cheaper 1TB variant since I want to clone the drive which is just under 1TB. Micron seems like an interesting alternative to Samsung.
     
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    Even crucial MX500 is an alternative if you get it for super low prices than Samsung evo drives.
     
  26. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    The Momentus XT 750GB Hybrid drive is still cruising along at almost 18,000 hours.

    I did get a notice in CrystalDisk about a warning, its status is in yellow.
    A search revealed nothing substantial other than it can fail tomorrow or run for years and is not an indication of anything.

    I do have a plan. I have a Samsung 850 Evo, the 1TB 2.5" SSD in another machine that I plan to remove from there and put in the L702x.
    And upgrade that machine with a 2TB 860 Pro.
     
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  27. etcetera

    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    SSD prices are dropping through the floor lately and the trend will only accelerate.

    I am still getting that "warning" in CrystalDiskMark.
     
  28. Aivxtla

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    Just note that if the SSD portion is worn out the drive won’t fail. It will simply act as a standard HDD as the SSD caching will be disabled, so it should still last you a pretty long time. But yeah SSD prices are dropping even nVME.
     
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    I think the spinning part of the hard drive is a lot more likely to fail than the SSD piece. So it seems, intuitively, but then I am not a hardware design person or in Electrical engineering.

    Strangely, the "warning" went away. Over 18,000 hours runtime now.

    I run this drive in a mirror configuration with a 1TB Hitachi that's supposedly 7200 rpm but feels like 5400 rpm in comparison. The native hybrid drive that came with the laptop is a lot faster than the mirror HItachi drive, loads way faster. So I think the SSD component is still working.

    What an interesting design.
    Obsolete, but interesting.
     
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    It really obsolete. Just another option. Since I’m sure Seagate will up storage size in the future. Mine runs much faster than the HDd it replaced.
     
  31. etcetera

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    I will replace it with the Samsung 1TB Evo, the 850 model.
     
  32. kojack

    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    Well, my firecuda decided to give up the ghost completely this week. My system pulled a blue screen, then when I tried to re install windows it could not find any drive to install it on. So, like most everyone else, I am replacing it with a new 1tb SSD.
     
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  33. etcetera

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    So how many hours did the HDD accumulated on it at that point when it failed?
     
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    My HDD hit 20,000 hours this week.
     
  35. kojack

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    Not enough. I now have an older intel 320 ssd and it’s so fast. I have two ssd coming to replace drives in my devices now.
     
  36. etcetera

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    I read reviews of that "Hybrid" drive on Amazon, they are either very positive or "My drive failed within 6 months, don't ever buy this" type. Really, just like with any other HDD.

    I see Samsung 860 the 1TB model has dropped to $127 price level, shipped, on Amazon Prime. Really, kind of amazing considering it's not much more than this hybrid drive. The price delta is not that great.
     
  37. kojack

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    Nope. The price of the full blown SSD has dropped since I bought the hybrid. That being said, I really wanted 2 tb of storage. I may look for a 2 tb SSD and see what I can come up with.
     
  38. ericxps

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    I would advise everyone to stay clear of Seagate HDDs. They are proven to be the worst in terms of reliability.
     
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    I second that. I had 2 Seagate HDDs (the second one was the replacement for first one - under warranty) and both failed, each after 2 years. My friend's portable Seagate HDD also died with no reason within 2 years.
     
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    I have never had a Seagate drive give me issues. This however, makes me rethink my choice of using them. I now have Kingston SSD's in both our dell computers now, and they are WAY faster. I did notice a speed increase with the SSHD, but the speed increase from that to my SSD is 10 times better. My wifes little inspiron 11 3000 2 in 1 went from being useable in 3 mins to being useable in less than 30 seconds. I am now ordering one for my sons acer S5 (MacBook air clone but better!). The Kingston drives are great. Inexpensive, have a decent brand name to back them up ( I have been using Kingston cards in my cameras for years) and now in my computers. I need to get some archival drives for my home server I am setting up. I am going to run ALOT of drive storage in a mirror setup to stay safe.
     
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    Sadly drives are hit and miss. I've had some poor luck with Seagate, but that's what we used for our customer builds. Just had a rash of them dying sadly.

    I've been pretty happy with my 8TB WD (Hitachi) Red helium drives in the desktop. I only have 15k hours on them, but no issues so far.
     
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    Tell me how you calculate MTBF or hrs left(Is it POH readings from SMART?)
    For me its complete opposite Seagates lasted longer while WD died just after warranty twice. For my clients, Seagates were horrendous and they stick with WD.
     
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    The 15k hours is power on hours.
     
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    Thanks.
     
  45. kojack

    kojack Notebook Prophet

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    I think those are the ones I am going to be using actually. 4x4 tb in a raid 10 setup.
     
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    Which one? WD or Seagate?
     
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    I saw a 1 TB 2.5" true SSD on NewEgg for $99 yesterday. I'd invest in that over a spinner any day of the week...
     
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    I have 2 Kingston SSD now. I paid 94.00 Canadian for my 1TB drive and 78.99 for my wifes 500gb version. They are great. I am ordering another 500gb for my son's acer S3 along with a new battery. His will be a great little computer for another few years.