M1300 on futuremark: why so few?

I just had a look at PCMark05 scores, limited to the 8400 GS & was amazed to only find six entries, of which only three (incl. mine) were from M1330s... !

No one here interested to see how their combo of OS & drives hold up against the rest?

Ditto with the 3DMark0x benches...

 

cuz no one buys an ultra portable thinking its an awesome gaming computer...

 

What's PCMark05 got to do with gaming?

 

He's confusing it with 3dmark - I think everyone who buys an M1330 has read the reviews of the major review sites (cnet, pcmag etc.) and knows that it is a premium laptop with exellent performance.

 

Well, there's a few PCMark05 entries now, even a few 3DMark05's too. One person went so far as to OC theirs, lol

 

I'm guessing it's because overall, most people are too lazy to run those benchmark programs and submit them and since the m1330 is expensive and new..that means less people have them..and therefore, even fewer ppl will have submitted those scores

 

I got 3906 mark on 3Dmark05 on my M1330 (OC'ed @v596/740),

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3649979

Peak temp on the GPU was 94C when this ran btw.

 

That's damned impressive

you've got the 169.04s, right? The extra clocks show up best in the Proxycon bench 'cause it has less to do with unified shaders tech and more to do with getting the polys out the pipeline(s)!

That's damned scary

I take it you don't OC it too often, eh?

 

I only run it on M1330 to see if the system is running healthy or not.

3dmark to see if GPU is working properly (and to see how much I can push it, but it's not like I game on this..)

I8kfan to see constant temp monitoring from CPU, GPU, System board, HD etc-has nice features like monitoring of peak temps to see how much the system gets hot under stress like 3dmarks.

Notebook Hardware control to see battery life, and make the system way I want it to run.

BTW, GPU in our system runs REALLY hot in 3d applications, with or w/o OC'ing.

For example, my M90's peak wouldn't go more than 80C on 3dmarks, and about 90's in games like Crysis.

8400M is just a weaker card is all.

Try the I8kfan - I put little instruction on how to make it work properly on this link.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=185107

Best things about the softwares I use are they don't put much load on system at all.

 

Well, that's kind of the point of doing benchmarks in the first place, lol.

While the 3DMark benchmarks are strictly oriented for Gamers, PCMark05 gives you a good idea how all facets of your system are performing. You can then go online and compare to others with similar gear.

You can of course use it to compare your own results, before and after installing new drivers, to see the impact, if any.

In any case, it's people like us, who hang out in such forums long after we've solved the intial problems we came here to solve, that use such tools... :laugh:

 

Yes, and although I'm not familiar with the M90, it doesn't help any that the M1330 cools the Northbridge, GPU and CPU with the one & same heat pipe / fan. To be expected, considering the size!

Yes you're right, the M1330's not a gamer's rig, but when on the road, I'd like to be able to play a game or two on it. The only game I've installed so far is F.E.A.R. but as you pointed out, the GPU's running very hot as the fan is at full RPM (hair dryer mode). I can even hear it when I have my ear-buds on

I've just finished compiling a gear vs. game listing of which gear I had in my PC and what games I was playing at the time. I think I'll go back to Radeon 9800Pro era as the 8400M GS seems to surpass it in most 3DMark tests. A few good examples of what I was playing at the time include Far Cry, CoD, UT2004, Splinter CellT, Painkiller, Doom3 and last but certainly not least, Half Life 2

Thanks for the tip, I will try it When you posted the GPU temps above, I assumed you had installed nVidia's nTune (which I'm planning to install on my PC, but don't really want to mess with on the M1330).

On top of the nice list of tools you compiled, let me recommend SiSoft's Sandra which is a great tool to get every last bit of info out of your system (well, except for GPU temp, lol) as well as some benchmarking "modules" that will suppliment PCMark05's own. I owned previous versions (since '98, when I was a beta tester) but as far as I noted, the SW is now free... (lucky you & all the others )

 

After you follow my instructions on I8kfan, make sure to check to see if the temps match on I8kfan, and Ntune/ATI tool (Ntune temps = ATITool btw).

Since the I8kfan is bit old, you have to change between default GPU temp, and system board temp under options. You will get it once you play w/ it a bit.

I really do suggest monitoring peak temps after games though via I8kfan.

BTW, M90 is basically same machine as M1710, but w/o lights, and with TPM (Trusted Patform Module?) chip (which I don't use lol). W/ 2ghz cpu, I used to get about close to 10k on 3dmark05, but after I downgraded the CPU on my sig, it gets about 8.8k.

 

Oh yeah, this sucker can really cook... Here's my figures for a 3DMark06 run:

CPU/GPU/MEM/NB/clk/Load/Fan/(fan2-ignore)

48 60 46 47 2200 4% 0 0
60 60 46 47 2200 22% 0 0
52 64 46 47 2200 32% 0 0
55 67 46 48 2200 38% 0 0
62 74 47 48 2200 57% 0 0
62 80 47 48 2200 54% 3670 0
...
72 72 53 54 2200 61% 4314 0
72 71 53 54 2200 98% 3903 0
74 71 53 54 2200 98% 3754 0
75 71 53 54 2200 99% 3754 0
75 70 53 54 2200 98% 3754 0
77 70 53 55 2200 99% 3812 0
77 70 54 55 2200 99% 3812 0
77 70 54 55 2200 100% 3725 0
78 70 54 55 2200 100% 3697 0
80 70 54 55 2200 100% 3754 0
79 70 54 55 2200 99% 3670 0
80 70 54 56 2200 99% 3697 0
80 70 54 56 2200 99% 3697 0
75 70 54 56 2200 91% 3670 0
67 76 54 56 2200 59% 3725 0
74 74 54 56 2200 42% 3697 0
80 73 54 56 2200 96% 3697 0
80 73 54 56 2200 98% 3725 0
81 74 54 56 2200 98% 3754 0
80 74 55 57 2200 97% 3754 0
82 74 55 57 2200 99% 4470 0
82 73 55 57 2200 99% 4391 0
82 72 55 57 2200 99% 4352 0
82 72 55 57 2200 97% 4391 0
82 72 55 57 2200 97% 4391 0
81 73 55 58 2200 97% 4391 0
82 72 55 58 2200 99% 4314 0
82 72 55 58 2200 98% 4352 0
78 74 55 58 2200 73% 4314 0
...
62 84 55 56 2200 47% 4352 0
63 85 55 56 2200 51% 4430 0
61 86 55 56 2200 49% 4967 0
62 87 55 56 2200 52% 5122 0
66 87 55 56 2200 51% 5122 0
66 87 55 56 2200 48% 5122 0
65 87 55 56 2200 50% 5122 0
62 87 55 56 2200 52% 5070 0
65 87 55 56 2200 52% 5070 0
62 87 55 56 2200 50% 5122 0
62 88 55 56 2200 41% 5018 0
63 88 55 57 2200 47% 5122 0
62 79 55 56 2200 56% 5122 0
55 76 55 57 2200 7% 5018 0
54 73 55 57 2200 7% 4430 0
51 71 55 56 2200 4% 4470 0
51 70 55 56 2200 3% 4391 0
50 69 55 56 2200 2% 4391 0
50 68 55 56 2200 2% 4391 0
49 66 55 55 2200 2% 4391 0
48 65 55 55 2200 1% 4430 0

I highlited the peak temps during the CPU test(s) as well as the shader 3.0 tests (Canyon or Arctic) and deleted chunks of similar entries to make the log a bit shorter.

what I don't understand (and don't like) is that the cpu clock doesn't throttle (step downwards) when 18kfanGUI is running and I don't know why... have you noticed this too, or do I have some kind of mysterious problem?

 

I haven't noticed it because I like my CPU running at max all the time lol.

Try to take some monitoring off though. You don't need to have history tracking on.

Did you follow my instructions on switching system board temp and GPU temp?

Make sure ntune/ATItool temps match up with GPU temp on I8kfan. (it seems like you did btw)

What happens if you under clock cpus via notebook hardware control?

 

i don't need numbers to indicate my experience with my m1330

 

Btw, the above figures were recorded when I was using the 6-cell battery; with the 9-cell, GPU maxed @86C implying the 9-cell does improve airflow somewhat The CPU also maxed out lower (77C instead of 82C).

Thus, if you happen to own both batteries, then you definately want to run games etc using the 9-cell, which is -er!

As a sidenote, I used nTune's monitor function on my gaming PC which is equipped with an off-the-shelf-OCed 7900GT (580/1580MHz); As scary as 88C is, I just logged 99C from my 7900GT running 3DMark06 ...as if that wasn't scary enough, I logged 104C running Gears of War...

although I've just started using nTune, I have been monitoring the GPU using an external probe and I can say for certain that I've logged an entire year's worth of gaming at around these temps. Furthermore, nVidia uses 127C as the default alert temp so that the 8400M GS' 88C no longer concerns me as much...