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    M1330 wireless N compatibility question?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by jkanzaki, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. jkanzaki

    jkanzaki Notebook Consultant

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    Hi
    I have a question regarding the wireless N compatibility issue ? In short which Wireless N router is best compatible with ? since My new M1330 use the dell 1505 wireless N mini card, i am wondering which brand or specific model of routers are best suited with this ?

    Any suggestion?

    thank you
     
  2. DoubleBlack

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    Anything that has Draft 2.0 802.11n and NOT Draft 1.0 802.11n will work fine ;)
     
  3. jkanzaki

    jkanzaki Notebook Consultant

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    what is the difference between draft 2.0 and 1.0 ?

    so the dell wireless n mini card is draft 2.0 or 1.0?

    thanks
     
  4. HCW

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    Do you really need a N card at this time ?
     
  5. d94

    d94 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, to connect to all the cheese in the factory :D
    but, seriously wireless N is the future! ..i think it was only an extra $25 to upgrade to it?
     
  6. Murdoc

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    Ok this is really starting to scare me. I bought my N-draft router without knowing if it was 1.0 or 2.0. To tell you the truth all I knew was "it's the latest specfication". I didn't even know it wasn't ratified (even though the word "draft" suggested something).

    I'm kinda worried now even though I've asked the Reps before and they said Dell-wireless N works fine on any N-draft router.

    I think I've asked how to check if my router is draf 1.0 or 2.0 but i didn't get a solid answer. Can someone please tell me how to check for this. Thanks.
     
  7. WilsonJoseph

    WilsonJoseph Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered my Inspiron 1720 with the N-mini card, as I was told it was the best and most powerful card to recieve wireless. I will be doing lots of lab and excursion work in my geology program at university, will the N-card work to pick up various wireless signals? differently?better? or worse than other wireless cards? Thanks, sorry I am not very tech savy and am worried that it wasn't the best choice.
     
  8. jkanzaki

    jkanzaki Notebook Consultant

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    Yes Getting a N card is more future proof, aside from that i worry my Wireless N card is draft 1.0 now XD .

    Because iam planning to buy a wireless N Router and install at my house. I worry there will be compatibility issue.
     
  9. lancorp

    lancorp Notebook Virtuoso

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    Let me save everyone lots of time and trouble with pairing the 1505 wireless card with a router.

    I purchased (and will return) various models trying to get one that worked as advertised (270-300mbps). I read bad reviews about Linksys so I didn't bother with that one, but others that got good reviews, turned out didn't work so well when put to the test.

    My testing consisted of attempting to transfer (using xcopy in a command prompt window), a large 587MB file to my Vostro 1500 with a 1505 card from my desktop PC (Optiplex 745) connected to a Gigabit switch. At the same time, my 1500 had another command prompt windows open doing a PING to my desktop IP, so I could monitor response times over the network during the transfer. I would monitor the time it took to do the transfer.

    I must admit, I'm a bit perplexed why some N-based routers have 10/100 ethernet ports. How is one supposed to get 300mbps from a 100mbps port?

    First, I tried a Netgear NEXT RangeMax N Access Point with Gigabit port. Don't waste your time with any N-based Netgear equipment. I have always liked Netgear, which explains why I bought this one first, but it was the poorest performer. Constant dropped packets, spontaneous reboots of the AP, loss of connection, etc. Very, very bad. Ping times (during the moments that the AP was working and transmitting) were very slow (over 1000ms). Tried various 1505 configuration changes that were suggested on the internet, but could not get the Netgear to work.

    Next, I tried a Belkin N1 router (not the Vision, just the regular N1). 10/100 ports only. Much more stable than the Netgear, with only an occassional pack drop during the transfers, but still very slow due to the 100mbps port limit. I could never get a connection past 135mbps (when I should be getting 270-300). Ping times were better than the Netgear, but jumped up and down a lot.

    Went over to Best-Buy to see what they had, and I picked up a Belkin N1 Vision (really cool looking with Gigabit ports) and a D-link DIR-655. Since the D-link was cheaper, I tested it first. I was impressed by the firmware in the D-link. Lots of configuration options. I'm not really using the router funtionality, just more like an Access Point, so a lot of them are useless to me, but for others, it's very impressive.

    Testing time. During the 587MB file transfer, packet response time (as shown by the PING I was running) stayed very fast the whole time (1-10ms on average), and never a packet loss or reset or anything. The connect speed stayed at 270mbps almost all the time. PERFECT!!! WINNER!!!!

    Since the D-link worked, I decided not to open the more expensive Belkin N1 Vision router. Back to Best-Buy it goes.

    So, everyone save yourselves some time, and if you have a Dell 1505, the D-link DIR-655 works great.

    Hope this helps.
     
  10. DoubleBlack

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    Draft 1.0 was ratified a long time ago, while Draft 2.0 was rather recent. Draft 2.0 means the hardware is final, and when the final 802.11n specification comes out you'll be able to do a firmware upgrade from you Draft 2.0 device to FINAL. Not to mention all of the wireless cards in Dell's systems are Draft 2.0, you'd want that for the best compatibility.
     
  11. jkanzaki

    jkanzaki Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the info.
     
  12. Wootiful

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    Does anybody know of a draft version 2.0 compatible integrated ADSL modem router? I had bought a Netgear DG834N but this is only compatible with version 1.0 so I'll be returning it shortly.

    The Wi-Fi Alliance lists a single Belkin modem on their certified page here, SKU F5D8633-4/uk, but that doesn't seem to correspond with any model currently on sale.
     
  13. Reserved Egotist

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    What about the 4965AGN card from Intel?
     
  14. Wootiful

    Wootiful Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have the 4965AGN in my M1330 and it's listed on the link I posted earlier as being fully compliant to draft 2.0 of the 802.11n specification so you'll need a draft 2.0 compliant router.

    In order for a product to pass compliance testing by the Wi-Fi Alliance it must interoperate with other 802.11n draft 2.0 compliant products, there was no compliance testing of draft1.0 products.
     
  15. Les

    Les Not associated with NotebookReview in any way

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    I have the netgear Rangemax running 4 wireless laptops in my house....

    Is someone saying that because I got the 1505n that it will not just pick up my unsecured connection as soon as I get it going?

    Am I going to have to screw with things just to get my wireless to work wireless even at the 'g' level???
     
  16. andrew-M1330-5150

    andrew-M1330-5150 Newbie

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    the sales guy over the phone said that there was no draft N card for the laptop what a bell-end

    i just ordered the intel ABG card, can I change it to the N?
     
  17. sinstoic

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    Intel 4965AGN seems to be more compatible than Dell's offering.
     
  18. Samuel613

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    Yes, you can just swap out the card for the Intel 4965AGN or Dell 1505, though you'll need to reconnect 1 more antenna, IIRC.