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Specs:
Intel Core i3 370M @2.40
8GB RAM
120 Vertex 2 SSD
ATI 5450
6-cell battery
Mini Review:
I have had my 1458 for a couple of days now, and I have to say that I'm really impressed. I did a clean install and put in 8GB of RAM before I even turned it on. I used the drivers and downloads from the Dell site instead of the disc. The whole process was a snap.
I love the keyboard on this thing and the touch pad is nice as well, but it could be bigger. I like that the backlight on the keyboard shuts off if you don't use it.
The screen is sharp and VERY bright. I can't see how I will ever set it at more than 60% brightness. Text is crisp and the colors seem pretty spot on.
I like the slot-loading DVD drive. I have kids and I'm always worried with pop out DVD drives.
It is clear that the AMD 5450 is just an underclocked version of another card. I can just about double the clocks and it still seems pretty stable.
Now the things that I don't like.
The slot where the power cable plugs in is awfully loose. The power cable wiggles around and seems like it will easily slip out.
The fan is constantly going. It's not loud at all and the laptop does stay cool, but the fan has probably been on 75% of the time I have had it.
I think it will be a stretch to get 5 hours of battery life. But I do think 4:30 is good for a 6-cell battery in a machine with this kind of performance.
All in all, I must say that for $500 this is one hell of a great buy. It's a keeper for sure.
The numbers:
WEI
6.7
6.7 (remember, I put in 8GB RAM)
5.0 (no GPU overclock) 5.2 (with slight OC)
6.2 (no GPU overclock) 6.3 (with slight OC)
7.5 (dirty Vertex 2) 7.7 (after garbage collection)
3DMark 06
4314 (with 700/850 OC)
4631 (with 850/950 OC)
Passmark
1345
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Where did you get this for only that much?
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I have recently been experiencing overheating issues with my Dell Studio 1458 i7 laptop and after a few days of searching and diagnosing i finally found the solutions below which have helped but not fully resolved the overheating but at least it doesnt randomly shutdown anymore, the text below was cobbled together from other forums and posts elsewhere. I hope it helps other with this issue cos dell customer support cant seem to do jack $hit about it
After 3 days of troubleshooting I now consider myself an expert in this matter. Below is a veritable thesis on everything you could ever need (or want) to know about this problem. I know it is long, but it is worth reading through to completely understand what this problem is due to and how to fix it.
A) intermittent/random/unexpected immediate/instantaneous shut down (without the normal shut down/power down sequence) is a safety feature (I am guessing as a component of the bios, but who knows) that functions to prevent heat damage to the CPU or GPU. When these chips reach a certain critical threshold temperature a heat sensor is tripped to protect the hardware.
Three separate problems can activate this feature:
1. an error in the bios.
Solution: update the bios
2. a dysfunctional heat sensor
Solution: run Dell Diagnostics to confirm (see below).
3. its actually too hot
Solution: depends
As diagnosing (2.) is involved with (3.) I will just go through (3.).
There are 5 hardware components to defray heat from the C/GPU. In order of heat transfer:
A. thermal adhesive/pad/glue/compound
B. heat sink tubing
C. fan
D. heat sink
E. vents built into the base of the laptop
The thermal material conducts heat from the C/GPU to the copper tubing which is routed towards the fan and the heat sink. Heat thus travels from the C/GPU to the external environment with the fan blowing hot air out through the heat sink and ultimately through the vents visible on the base of your laptop. Any one of these components can malfunction:
A. thermal material can dry and/or crack disturbing its perfect interface that uniformly transforms heat from the C/GPU to the copper tubing thus creating localized hot spots on the C/GPU. This can in turn fry a portion of your processor.
Solution: you'll need a new processor
B. heat sink tubing can break or dislodge.
Solution: I don't know enough about this type of damage to usefully discuss it but if the tubing is damaged replacing the whole heat sink assembly will only cost about $50 if you search around online. Incidentally the model for Studio 1735 is NU380.
C. the fan either works or it doesn't - if you hear the fan its working, if you never hear it, it likely is not working.
Solution: follow the steps in the system manual for your particular dell laptop to replace the fan. I just worked on this on my own machine and its obnoxiously designed. You literally have to disassemble the entire Studio 1735 to access the fan. I don't know what the engineers were thinking.
D. The likelihood of the heat sink itself being damaged is slim to none unless you have physically damaged your laptop and if damage has been significant enough to damage the grate you ought to be thinking about more than just the heat sink grid as the force involved in that kind of trauma has probably disturbed the system board and the variety of chips attached to it.
Solution: There are actually 2 grids - one is integrated into the heat sink assembly, the other is integrated into the fan assembly. If you have to replace either component, the grid will come along with it.
IMPORTANT: THE MOST LIKELY CAUSE OF YOUR COMPUTER OVERHEATING IS NOT ACTUAL DAMAGE TO ANY OF THE ABOVE COMPONENTS BUT DISRUPTION TO THE HEAT TRANSFER. THE THERMAL ADHESIVE DELL USES IS CHEAP AND SHOULD BE REPLACED ANNUALLY. HOWEVER, WHAT TAKES THE CAKE IS DUST. ONE THINKS (AND I INCLUDE MYSELF HERE) THAT BY USING AN AIR CAN THAT YOU ARE KEEPING YOUR LAPTOP CLEAN. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!! USING A CAN OF AIR TO BLOW OUT DUST ACCESSIBLE VIA VENTS ONLY WORKS FOR AIR FLOW ACCESSIBLE VIA THOSE VENTS. THAT INNER HEAT SINK GRID I SPOKE OF ABOVE (THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE FAN) WILL NOT BE CLEANED BY FORCEFUL AIR FLOW. IN ORDER TO CLEAN THIS HEAT SINK YOU WILL HAVE TO DISASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE LAPTOP (AS I DESCRIBED ABOVE FOR FAN REPLACEMENT) AND WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THE FAN YOU WILL THEN SEE THE DUST THAT HAS COLLECTED THERE.
Ok, so you now know how the system works, what can go wrong, and how to fix what can go wrong. Here is how you can diagnose what the actual problem is. If I am not mistaken, all dell (at least) laptops come with their hard drive partitioned. On the partition is a diagnostic utility accessible during the boot sequence with F12. The absolute most sure fire way to assess what damage your system has (if any) is to run the extended diagnostics. This may occur after a pre-system diagnostic test or may be directly accessible. In this diagnostic utility you will be able to assess the integrity of your heat sensors, your processors, your memory, your harddrive and a variety of other components that can be damaged by overheating.
The utility is fairly self explanatory to operate and guides you through its use. If you are a more comfortable user, you can use other features of the diagnostic utility that more directly assess particular system features. Thus, this diagnostic will solve problems with both (2.) and (3.).
My suggestion is to run through the diagnostics before you start attempting to replace hardware. The reasoning for this suggestion should be obvious: you don't want to start fixing something that isn't the problem. I spent hours and hours figuring out that the problem initially identified by the poster was due to overheating. I called Dell and they told me that without warranty I'd have to buy a new laptop (comparable is about $1000) or have a service technician come on site (to my home) (cost = $400). In fact, just to speak to the service technician was going to cost $60 but the guy was nice and said since I had basically self diagnosed the problem he'd directly route me to the technician and not charge me the fee. I called up geek squad and they were going to charge a $70 diagnostic fee to figure out what I had already identified and have defined for you above and would then charge me for parts and labor to replace the heat sink. Note, this was all before I actually opened up my machine and realized that the internal heat sink grid was clogged. Thus, I went from potentially having to spend $1000 to spending $8 (because I disassembled my heat sink, I now to replace the thermal adhesive to restore the uniform interface it shared with the C/GPU).
It pays to be knowledgable about these things - it pays big time! In the past I would have probably wrote the problem off to being a broken machine and bought a new one.
It also is helpful to understand what the mechanism underlying the problem of overheating is (as I have outlined above) because a few other things should be intuitively obvious:
i. if your system is overheating, use it extremely sparingly so you permanently damage any of the hardware (and don't run high processing features like video and games)
ii. if the problem is heat you can use an external cooling system. the external cooling pads at best decrease the C/GPU temperates by 10 degrees C, thus if your system is at 100 degree C that's not going to do too much. However, if you set up the computer in a cold environment with active convection (I put my laptop on a wire cookie sheet to elevate it and then had a powerful area fan blow over and under it to make sure I could run the diagnostics without the system shutting itself down). Let me tell you, that fan was doing alot more than the power that could be transferred via a USB connection.
Recommendations:
R1- When using a laptop always use an external cooling pad. Despite what I wrote above, when your system is running normally without excessive temperatures, this marginal decrease in temperature will increase the overall lifetime of your laptop.
R2- Install the software that allows you to monitor your C/GPU temperatures continuously (many different programs available - just do google search).
R3- Disassemble your heat sink and fan at least annually (I have heard every 8 months) and clean the dust from the fan and heat sinks and replace the thermal adhesive. The time frame will obviously depend on how often and how intensely you use your computer and also the cleanliness of the environment it is in.
R4- Do NOT rely on Dell customer service. They are designed to make money and recommend "well you might need a new computer, it is probably the better option anyway" }
R5- Be wary of Dell! This may come as a shock and it came to a shock to me as well. After surveying the forums in detail dell has recently gone to using nVidia boards and Windows 7, both of which allegedly are notorioius for (have notoriously) caused overheating problems and as you have all experienced, as I have read, and as I have experienced, Dell support staff is not what it used to be and don't actually solve the problem. Not in one location after surveying these forums did I find anything about the problem possibly being due to a clogged system inaccessible via the external vents. I happened to find a video tutorial that explained how to replace the thermal adhesive and it was mentioned there (sorry, forget link). Thus, my conclusion is that the support staff does not actually understand what it is telling you, and concludes you need a service member or need to send your laptop in to get it fixed when in fact, you can fix most problems for free. And it makes me angry that they would charge you $60+ to do diagnostics, something that is already built into your system and they could explain with about 1 minute of assistance. To emphasize this point, I will not buy another a Dell.
R6- When working inside your laptop, note that you don't actually need any sort of certification to do this work. However, note that if you don't have an intuitive understanding of electronics that you might want to actually pay for this. Disassembling your computer can be a daunting process and the first time you go there is an inherent trial and error aspect to it. There are certain features of the Studio 1735 that are highly susceptible to damage if not handled properly. If you follow the directions precisely you have nothing to worry about. However, if you skim them and miss something, you could be looking at an expensive bill and dysfunctional laptop after you put everything back together. The key to successfully working inside your laptop is having the right tools for the job. A set of small philips head and flat head screw drivers and a set of needle nose plyers (preferably grounded with rubber covering) are ideal. If you are super sensitive about the aesthetics case you can get a plastic stylus (forget the precise name) that is designed to pop out certain click-n-lock hardware components, but a gingerly used small flat head screwdriver does this trick just fine.
Finally, please forward this. I have spent an hour writing this up for your benefit! Please pass this forward. As it will undoubtedly prove invaluable to you, please help out another user with this information by finding one additional post and forwarding this information there. Also, if a dell representative ever finds this, please at teh very least cut and paste whatever pertinent sections you feel are appropriate into your troubleshooting guide as the current help guidelines are, well, unhelpful.
If you are still having issues it may be the intel turbo boost. It seems buggy/defective heatsink/fan not removing heat fast enough to handle super hot 1 core. Using Orthos stress test using first setting (stress test cpu only) and intel turbo boost v2 utility,
To fix it : go to your windows power profile, set the maximum process state to 99%. This effectively disable turbo boost and should resolve the sudden shutdown
TLDR; set your power profile's maximum process state to 99%
Note:
This applies to my Dell Studio 14 using i7 740QM processor on Windows 7 64bit. Which should be the same across Dell Studio laptop.
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