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    Ordering an M1210 :)

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Fanelli, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. Fanelli

    Fanelli Notebook Guru

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    The configuration im ordering:

    PROCESSOR: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7200 (2.00GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)

    OPERATING SYSTEM: Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium

    LCD DISPLAY 12 inch Wide-screen WXGA Display with TrueLife™

    MEMORY 2GB Dual Shared Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms)
    (I will be buying 1 2GB memory stick and swapping it with one of the 1 GB sticks to makea total of 3GB of RAM

    HARD DRIVE 100GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive

    GRAPHICS CARD 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7400 TurboCache™

    OPTICAL DRIVE
    8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability

    PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE Microsoft® Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD

    WIRELESS CARD Dell 1505 Wireless-N

    SECURITY SOFTWARE Norton Internet Security™ 2007 Edition 15-months

    HARDWARE SERVICES
    3 Year Return to Depot Service and Technical Support

    BATTERY OPTIONS 9-cell Primary Battery and 9-cell additional Lithium Ion Battery

    SOUND OPTIONS Integrated Sound Blaster® Audigy™ HD Software Edition

    Total Cost (including Tax and Shipping): $2,457.84 CAD... now to find a coupon

    I was just thinking about the wireless card.. thats internal right? the 1505 Wirelss-N cause im not going to order that if its not.
     
  2. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    You appear to be spending a good deal of money on a fairly old machine. Is there a reason you're not looking at something newer?
    The wireless card is internal, yes. Also, the Sound Card you picked is merely a piece of software, not really worth the money.
     
  3. CodeMonkeyX

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    ..... are you nuts! :)

    The 1210 is at the end of it's line, they are not even sold on Dell US anymore. And for that kind of money I would be looking at a top of the line brand new system.

    Obviously you like Dell, so the M1330 would be good. If size is a big deal then you could look at the 11in Sony. But there are a lot of good small laptops available for 2.5 grand.
     
  4. Fanelli

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    actually, i really hate the M1330. Its really ugly in my honest oppinion. I wanted to order an m1210 because i really love the machine and there is nothing that can be beefed up to those specs for the same price.
     
  5. odin243

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    If you don't need it immediately, consider the Asus F9, a 12.1" notebook with an 8400M graphics card. Or look at the Sony SZ6 series.
     
  6. Les

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    Like the M1210??? Read this!!!

    http://www.dellcommunity.com/suppor...rd.id=xps_port_genhdw&message.id=10341#M10341

    Take the time to read it all before you order.

    Secondly, are you aware its pulled out of production? It was pulled initially from canadian Home sales (thank you very much), then US and I believe the remnants of what are left are on Cdn Business.

    Dont get me wrong...nice machine if you find a good one but.... many have not been. You will become very close friends with XPS Support.
     
  7. Fanelli

    Fanelli Notebook Guru

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    Size is not a huge thing for me. I just liked the M1210. Sonys are really nice machines but there so damn expensive. Basically i NEED a graphics card equivalent or better to the M1210's, and i need a 2.0 GHZ + Processor, 2 GB of RAM, and a 7200 RPM HD
     
  8. Fanelli

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    Dual Core of course
     
  9. odin243

    odin243 Notebook Prophet

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    Are you talking about the high-pitched whine, that some can hear? I'd hardly call that a serious issue, it was present on a whole bunch of the ultraportable Napa laptops.
     
  10. tsunamifury

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    Uh what, are you kidding me or just that incredibly stupid. Yes... i used the word stupid, because that comment fully qualifies. While the CHASIS might be old, the technology is on par with the 1330 for much much cheaper and smaller.

    Roughly the same processor, same ram speed, same everything except the video card and LED screen. C'mon get real. I am so tired of ignorant computer wanna-be-nerds who don't know even a remotely anything about computers. The m1210 maybe be an old (and well proven) body, but under the hood it can be configured to be almost the exact same speed as the 1330, and faster in most configurations. The 7400 Go would hand the x3100 its own ass. You can get the 8400m and be a bit faster, but thats about it.

    Personally, I believe most people who got their m1210's right now are very smart and savvy computer buyers. I know of three people who all bought spec'd out m1210's for 1100 dollars, as opposed to the 1900 required to get the m1330 the same speed.
     
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    The M1210 uses old tech. It uses a Napa chipset, which is now EOL and ends with a Merom processor. The Santa Rosa chipset in the M1330 not only has an FSB boost, it will be compatible with the 45nm Penryn processors. So it's not only faster, it's much more future proof if you ever want to upgrade.

    The 8400M-GS in the M1330 is DX10, compared to the DX9 Go7400, and the 8400M-GS performs around 50% better, a very respectable increase if you plan on playing any next-gen games (which the Go7400 will struggle with, at best).

    The LED screen in the M1330 is not only brighter and thinner/lighter than the CCFL screen in the M1210, it draws less power as welll. Combined with the thinner chassis and the lighter weight of the M1330, it makes it decently more portable than the M1210. PLUS you get all the advantages of having a larger screen.

    While I admit that the M1210 is a nice machine, and was one of the very best thin and light/ultraportable lappys available in it's generation, there is no denying that it is now old. I would not recommend spending any more than $1K dollars on an EOL machine.
     
  12. Fanelli

    Fanelli Notebook Guru

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    haha nice.. yea i just speced an M1330 to be the same speed (though the graphics card was still worse) and it came to about $300 more. I know the the m1210 may be an older machine, but the component can be the same or ebtter than the most recent machines, i think with tha configuration it could be a very powerful notebook, that could leave even the newest notbooks in the dust (Unless you put mroe money into the new ones lol) And the battery life on teh M1210 is fenominal as well, especially with the 9-cell, AND an INCLUDED extra 9-cell whichn is already in that price i didnt even add it.
     
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    sorry about all of the spelling mistakes lol i got excited and didnt read it over.
     
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    How is this becoming an argument???

    The high squealing whine is a very important factor; only those who havent experienced it would state otherwise. Why would you pay premium bucks for a premium system with a flaw???

    Im sitting here right now with my m1210 listenning to it.

    Secondly, you cannot compare the LCD to the LED whatsoever, size and weight much less the santa Rosa architecture in comparison to what we are using in the m1210.

    The system is antiquated and, is being pulled by Dell. Its a true fact. Why else would Dell offer me a new system with pleant of upgrades.

    Overall, the m1210 was a lemon...and still is. Its not cost effective for Dell to keep it. We simply cannot argue that.

    Granted you, and the angry woman (tsunamifury)may have great m1210's...Fabulous...but you are a minority. I know of so many unhappy owners who have approached me for help, its simply rediculous.
     
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    Fanelli...PM'd you if you r interested in a M1330 but..

    If your gonna get the M1210 go for it. We are just giving you advise and as it stands, a great deal of personal experience. I can list tons of threads from crying m1210 owners who are still fighting Dell. Best thing you can do for yourself though with that system...get NBD onsite warranty very least.

    I absolutely wouldnt go without.
     
  16. Fanelli

    Fanelli Notebook Guru

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    Inspiron 1520

    Components:
    PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7300 (4MB cache/2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB), English
    OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium Edition, English
    SYSTEM COLOUR Midnight Blue Color with Microsatin Finish
    LCD DISPLAY 15.4 inch UltraSharp ™ Wide Screen SXGA+ Display with TrueLife™
    INTEGRATED WEBCAM Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam
    MEMORY 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 Dimm
    HARD DRIVE 160G 7200RPM SATA HDD
    GRAPHICS CARD 256MB NVIDIA ®GeForce™8600M GT
    OPTICAL DRIVE 24X CD Burner/DVD Combo Drive
    Essentials
    PRODUCTIVITY SOFTWARE Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD, English
    WIRELESS CARD Dell Wireless 1505 Wireless-N Mini-card edit
    SECURITY SOFTWARE Norton Internet Security™ 2007 Edition 15-months
    HARDWARE SERVICES 3 Year Return to Depot Service and Technical Support
    ONLINE DATA STORAGE DataSafe Online Backup 3GB (included with price)
    BATTERY OPTIONS 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery edit
    ADDITIONAL BATTERIES 85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Additional Battery
    SOUND OPTIONS Integrated Sound Blaster Audigy HD Software Edition
    BLUETOOTH Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate)
    Accessories
    COLOURFUL CASES Notebook Sleeve - up to 15.4 - Chocolate/Blue

    Network Card and Modem Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
    Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.08

    What do you think of this configuration? I know its a long way off from teh m1210 but i think its decent. Is this Future Proof, and is teh video card ebtter than or equivalent to the M1210's?
     
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    Nice system but i would def upgrade the warranty... You will curse the first time it has to go back to depot, vice them sending someone to your doorstep the next day.
     
  18. Fanelli

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    ok. Does this have all of that future proof things that i fiorget who was talking about back there? lol
     
  19. Fanelli

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    Odin243 was saying it
     
  20. odin243

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    Yes, that system is significantly more powerful, and more future-proofed than the M1210. As long as size isn't an issue, it's a better system.
     
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    Future proofed is a stupid concept in the technology world.
     
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    BTW are you getting this M1210 second hand? Because Dell is not selling them anymore.
     
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    size isnt really an issue, battery life is, which normally makes it a sizwe issue lol. but if i can get like 6 hours with the 2 batterys ill be more than satisfied
     
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    They may not be selling them where you are, but in the US they have sold them all the way up to yesterday, new.

    And the one you guy, be it "newest line" or whatever you want to call it. is SLOWER than the m1210's most people purchased recently.

    Also, you can get 6 hours out of just one 9 cell.
     
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    is Canada they are selling them new in the small business section.
     
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    in*

    but im really considering the 1520
     
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    ONLY avail Cdn business.

    I had to laugh so hard...here TsunamiFury writes such a response to Code then comes back with "They were selling up to yesterday"

    Why didnt you mention that they dont sell them anymore TODAY???
     
  28. Fanelli

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    this is getting to flameish lol.. im gonna start a new thread with some question i have about the 1520 tonight, but for now i have to go to work. Thanks guys. Cya
     
  29. CodeMonkeyX

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    I am in the US, and as Flamenko pointed out, yesterday is yesterday.

    Sorry, I missed the benchmarks that show the M1210 beating the M1330 in performance? Can you post the link please.

    Because I am looking at the notebookreview.com reviews and see the following:
    Dell XPS M1210 1m 02s Super Pie
    Dell XPS M1330 0m 58s Super Pie

    Dell XPS M1210 2,082 3DMarks
    Dell XPS M1330 3,116 3DMarks

    No dual layer dvd.
    No HDMI.
    No LED.
    Heavier.

    Fanelli: If you are considering the 1520 then size is not a big problem for you. You can get something significantly faster than the M1210 for less money if you go for a 15.4in laptop. You might be a little happier with the Lenovo T61's? If you are going to get a 1520 try to see one in person first, because there have been some questions about build quality, screen quality, and audio quality with those machines.

    I was going to buy a T61 14.1in before I heard about the M1330, so that was my second choice. It seems to be well made and typical Thinkpad quality, plus LED screens and Santa Rosa chipsets etc.