Retry.

Ok I've decided I'm re-ordering my Dell Inspiron but with modifications and I need help with some stuff because I don't really know much about computers, example, what's better the AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 (1.8GHz/1MB), English or the Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5450 (2MB cache/1.66GHz/667Mhz FSB), English processor? Thanks, sorry for being a pain!

 

Obviously, Intel 5450.

 

Well I just read that AMD is better for multi-tasking and is quieter than Intel...but now I'm wondering what I should pick so that my laptop gets here on time...glossy screen or anti glare...decisions, decisions, bah humbug.

 

If you'll do video encoding, along with audio compression, while using photoshop and watching an HDTV rip, then I'd suggest AMD, though the difference still won't be much had you used Intel.

None of the choices will make laptop come sooner or later, as IMVHO, they are not the reasons why DELL is delaying the deliveries.

 

Choosing between Intel and AMD is like choosing between two religions, rather than two electrical components. It really depends on who you ask, and everybody seems to have their own reasons for liking one more than the other.

More people end up choosing Intel over AMD though (not that I'm biased at all ).

 

Intel FTW!

 

I have always used AMD chips for any dektop I have built, but laptops I am strictly an Intel user!!

Best of both worlds I guess

 

I too, am the same way. I use AMD on my desktop and Intel on my laptops. Multi-tasking with an AMD processor is the way to go.

I always have either my 3D modeling program (SolidWorks 2006), Microsoft Office 2003 Enter. Edit., and Widows Media Player 11 running at once, or Sony Vegas v.7 + DVD Production Suite, Adobe Illustrator CS2, and Adobe Photoshop CS2 running at on time. Never had a problem with this on my AMD desktop.

Although I can't as much on my laptop with an Intel processor, it is not designed to handle as much, I can still do at least 70-75% of that. Again, the Inspiron 17xx series of laptops just are not deigned to handle it. If I wanted to do this much resource intensive multi-tasking with a laptop, I would have step up to the more powerful XPS 17xx series and then it would be no problem what so ever!

If I was to get a laptop for heavy resource intensive multi-tasking, it would be an XPS 17xx series with an AMD processor though. This is because I know they are more reliable and smoother under heavy loads, as compared to Intel, from my past experiences.

Dell Inspiron 1720
Intel Core 2 Duo T7300
Midnight Blue Color with Microsatin Finish
2GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm
High Resolution, WUXGA+ (1920 x 1200)
256MB NVIDIA GeForce Go 8600
500G (2x 250) 5400RPM SATA HDD
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
8X DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive
Intel 4965AGN Wireless-N Mini Card
Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam
Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Mod

 

Also get the 1920x1200 resolution glossy screen if you like looking at videos or pictures. Some people say that it is to reflective, but when it comes down to looking at videos or pictures, you will not be sorry! With this option you can always scale down the resolution, where as if you get the lower res. screen, you can not bump it up. I hope this has helped you a little!

 

I think you should rethink your decision to re-order at this time. The delays will continue for a while until the backlog clears. Shop elsewhere.

 

Hmm I think the Turion processors are less popular compared to the C2D in the mobile market currently since C2D seems to outperform the former.... I m an AMD fan but still I stick with the fact that AMD needs catching up if they need to remain in the mobile market.... And C2D seems to perform very well for multi-tasking applications..... The C2D usually have a min. 2 MB cache while the Turions seems to have a max of only 1 MB cache totally (512 kb per core).....

So finally IMO better go with a C2D

 

No!!!! Please stay in this forum!

 

There is something to be said about shopping elsewhere. I know you were frustrated by the delays with your order and as someone else mentioned - your new laptop is likely to have similar delays.

Or maybe look at the refurbished ones on Dell's website (in the outlet section - www.delloutlet.com I think). When I started giving up hope for my laptop I started shopping in there, they are starting to get many of the colors in.

Good Luck MissNora!

 

I'm not certain where you're getting this information as benchmarks have shown Intel's Core 2 Duo to be superior to the AMD X2s in multitasking situations across the board. (Compare the like frequency CPUs in the following tests)

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/page17.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/10508/10
http://www.hothardware.com/articles...rs_Chipsets_And_Performance_Analysis/?page=11
http://www.trustedreviews.com/cpu-m...-Core-2-Duo-Conroe-E6400-E6600-E6700-X6800/p8

As well, since the 1720 and the XPS M1710 use the same Core 2 Duo processors, I don't understand why you think stepping 'up' to the M1710 would improve multitasking performance.

 

Honestly for normal PC tasks (Internet, Word) i dont think you will notice any major difference... what you will notice is a major difference in pricing between the two CPU's, AMD being much cheaper than Intel which is why i chose AMD... Also you shouldn't have canceled your order because dell.ca increased their prices yesterday... you can check for yourself

 

I've heard pretty much the opposite: that Intel is better for multi-tasking and AMD is better for games. Someone in here said that choosing one is like choosing a religion, and I think that's pretty much true. I've had bad experiences with AMD processors, and others have had bad experiences with Intel processors. A lot of the time that's just the computer and not the processor, but it just goes to making the decision more difficult.

I'd say the biggest, most obvious difference is cost. The Intel processor is generally more expensive than an AMD processor, so if cost is an issue then I don't think you'll notice a difference going with AMD for everyday use. Both processors are going to be just fine for that. I think you'll notice it with heavy gaming, though, but I don't know much about that.

 

all I can say is that AMD's stock prices have struggled the last year, while Intel has been doing better...all the while it seems AMD's are in many more pre-built computers like at Walmart, Best Buy, etc.

Don't know what that means, but I took it into consideration.

 

Hahaha, I re-ordered it again, no worries...holy...

Yeah I realized they changed their prices when I got the total at the end, I was pretty pissed, kicked myself hard knowing what I did and knowing that there was a possibility of getting it next week. Especially since Spring Green didn't show a delay anymore when you chose colors, @!$#

 

Ok

The Choice between AMD 64 X2 and Intel Core 2 Duo

Depends

if your going for 64 bit...then AMD all the way no ands ifs or butts AMD beats the pants off of Intel in the 64 bit department....

AMD 64 is Superior to EM64T(Extended Memory 64 Technology, that Intel Later renamed Intel 64)

Intel's implementation of 64 bit is not "true" 64 bit..it is only 54 bit mwhere as AMD's is "true" 64 bit

Microsoft themselves have Admitted that AMD'S implentation of 64 bit Architecture is "Superior" to Intels..

Intel may be faster on the 32 bit platform...Now

But AMD is looking towards the future, in 2 years 64 bit computing will be normal, it is the future..and AMD is superior in every way to Intel in the 64 bit architecture

I recently tested 2 computers, same ram, same specs..Intel vs AMD on the 64 bit Platform same progs, etc installed on each machine

on a 64 bit OP system AMD64 memory management is much "superior" less memory fragmentation which = faster memory access

DMA(Direct Memory Access) which is what your hardware uses to talk and use memory is 20% faster on AMD 64 over Intel 64

Intel only won in 1 area....Audio encoding...by a very small margin almost not worth mentioning

But AMD 64 handles memory much more efficent which = less reboot on the 64 bit platform....

If you want fast now..go Intel

If you want faster in the future and plan on getting a 64 bit operating system and going 64 bit computing...go With AMD

Also AMD is much better gaming Processor...Game Manufacturers program their games to more take Advantage of AMD processors over Intel..Intel usually gets preference in business applications...if your a gamer..go AMD

 

well I have a 17 inch glossy screen and it was one of my items that were back ordered by several reps have told me that the glossy screen is no longer backordered. I don't know what that means for new orders tho....

as far as the processor I have always liked Intel (Pentiums, M, etc.) but my Intel core Duo processor is now what's holding my laptop up more than anything... and its been over 40 days.... so hope that helps...

 

Do you actually believe the stuff you're writing?

Please provide proof of your 'AMD's 64 bit implementation is so much superior to Intel's.' In the meantime, I will provide some proof negating your claim.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/11886/2

64 bit application tests. Core 2 Duo spanks the Athlon 64 X2.

Athlon64 has always put up better memory bandwidth numbers due to its on-die memory controller. However, that hasn't been enough to counter Core 2 Duo's much more efficient architecture. Unless you use your computer to refresh Sandra/Everest memory benches all day, this is a moot point. In applications, Core 2 Duo still easily beats Athlon X2, clock for clock.

Athlon64's a better gaming processor? Do I really need to pull up the countless number of reviews that show the Core 2 Duo eating the X2s alive in gaming? I'll just post a few for your viewing pleasure:

http://firingsquad.com/hardware/intel_core_2_performance/page8.asp
http://techreport.com/articles.x/10351/5
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=14

Need I say more?