Santa Rosa

Is this better to have if you play games? What if you use the laptop mostly for internet, pictures, email and word. Does the Santa Rosa work better for these too?

 

As far as I know, the Centrino Duo is faster but draws more power (less battery life) and dissipates more heat.
I can't imagine you'd see much of an increase in performance (if any) if you use your computer to go around the Intenret, look at pictures, e-mail and word processing.
You might want it for gaming. I'm sure someone who knows more about it can inform you more since I don't know much on this.

 

Thanks, I appreciate the reply. I really wasn't sure it worked best for the entire computer or basically gaming.

 

Well the entire computer will be faster. The thing you have to remember is that you probably won't notice an increase in speed (unless you use CPU intensive programs).
If you do a search on these forums you'll probably find more information on Santa Rosa.

 

battery life is better with centrino duo (santa rosa) over core 2 duo and core duo

also, the new video cards all support directX 10, which may not be used to full potention just yet, but soon will be

 

Has the battery life thing been proven? How does it use up less battery life but consume more power and dissipates more heat?

They do support directX 10, which will be great in the future.

 

Santa Rosa comes w/ some new power saving techs like being able to lower the FSB when u don't need the extra power, being able to turn off some chips when ur idle and such but under constant load i would imagine the older broads would use less power

 

I think potentially the best feature of Santa Rosa (don't take my word for it, just speculation) is the potential to use Intel's next generation chip. The last generation could accomodate Core Duo and then Core2 Duo. According to their road map, Santa Rosa is using the current Core 2 (just in different pin) and should be able to accomodate the next upgrade after Core 2 (Penryn?).

 

Centrino Pro (Santa Rosa) platform has many improvements over Centrino Duo (Core 2 Duo based platform): a newer chipset, wireless N, Turbo memory (designed to enhance disk caching), faster FSB, DX 10 support and a relatively low power consuming yet faster processor.

Despite all those improvements, still Santa Rosa based notebooks are not noticeably faster than Core 2 Duo notebooks for general computing. You can see some benchmarks at AnandTech. You will see that performance is almost similar in most cases.

However when applications start to use Santa Rosa specific features (like DX10 games) or when Wireless N networks become popular etc. you will see the real benefits of the new platform.

 

Any idea when Santa Rosa might be avaliable on the 1420?

 

it IS already available..... 1420 is a Santa Rosa notebook.

 

Okay. lol
I thought SR was called Centrino Duo.

 

Santa Rosa platform is called Centrino Pro. Centrino Duo was the earlier Core / Core 2 based platforms. However most notebook manufacturers still haven’t adopted the Centrino Pro logo. Don’t know why.

Older logo


New Logo

 

Thanks for the update. Since many of the notebook companies haven't adopted this, It might be confusing for some. I know it was to me.

 

Actally-santa rosa platforms using the older wireless card and such are still named Duo not Pro- i forget where it was said but its semi-offical... Anywhos yea...

Regarless, yes, its mostly slow updating/not wanting to post 2 icons... n such.

 

In respect to gamers, there will be Core 2 Extreme laptop versions coming very soon, clocked at 2.6ghz and 2.8ghz.

Intel has a number or price cuts scheduled in the final week of July, on July 22nd and shortly after that. It shouldn't be a surprise if Intel cuts the price on some of the chips that Dell is using already which are slower. Perhaps it's worth the wait for potential buyers?

I know some of the desktop price cuts will be as much as 50%, and who knows if that'll be true for the laptop processors as well. It could potentially save you $50 or more though.

Regarding the benefits of Santa Rosa, someone made a great list there, Phoenix. No reason one would pick an older processor when they can just get a Santa Rosa laptop. The key selling point was similar performance with reduced battery consumption.

Wait longer? Intel Penryn is expected possibly as soon as the fall. Some anticipate Intel is just waiting to stick it to AMD with this chip once AMD brings out some new products. Penryn will see a nice performance boost, a smaller chip, and yet more energy savings.

 

The Core Duo Core Pro naming is not the way to differentiate Santa Rosa. The Pro naming is for business versions of the santa rosa platform that have a couple of additional security features. The processor number is the only way to differentiate.

 

The desktop and server parts are getting price cuts at the end of July, by the mobile parts aren't expected to drop in price until early September. As usual, the biggest drops will come in at the top end - but generally, you can expect to get one free speed grade upgrade. (T7300 -> T7500, etc) Penryn starts volume shipments in Q4, but I wouldn't expect much in th way of actual laptops until 2008. Montevina, which is the platform built around the Penryn isn't expected until early 2008. Plus, AMD's mobile platform, Puma, is still built on the K8 architecture, not the K10 of Phenom, (albeit with significant improvements in power management) and isn't due out until late 2007/early 2008. In terms of performance, Penryn shouldn't have too much problem outperforming Griffin (the CPU in the Puma platform) but power consumption-wise, it'll be a good fight between the two. AMD's really made some drastic improvements to the power-saving capabilities.

 

If we bought the Centrino Duo as the base, and wanted to upgrade to Centrino Pro, will it work without replacing hte motherboard or BIOS? Basically could we just drop it in the 1520 without any hassle?

Also, is the turbocache on-die or built into the motherboard?

 

ok centrino duo is the santa rosa platform - so is centrino pro. the "pro" is just for business users.


the ONLY difference between the centrino duo and the centrino pro is: Intel the centrino pro has Active Management Technology whcih is just an extra security feature.

they are basically just NAMES intel gave them - nothing more.

 

Agreed. Moving from Santa Rosa Centrino Duo to Santa Rosa Centrino Pro is not really an upgrade, it just adds the one security feature which no home user will care about. I'm not sure if that move is possible... but its definetely not an "upgrade"..

 

Relating to that, I found this link:

http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12683

It's not date specific, but yea, I'd expect a CPU drop soon enough and some new additions to the laptop offerings....looking forward to those! Some good info. there. Penryn might be interesting.

 

Sorry I'm getting confused. I meant as in the T5250 VS T7300 ya know?
Yonah vs Merom.

Can the Santa Rosa be dropped in if I bought the Yonah chip?

 

bump anybody know?