So, My laptop is in the boxing stage..

And I can't help but not care anymore..

In the beginning, the anticiaption of the wait ALONE was enough to keep me excited..now I'm just bummed out.

Half of my feelings may stem from the fact that for less than $150 more, I could have got a better processor, 2 batteries and the remote. I did not take any of that into consideration (the batteries I did) when I priced my laptop out.

As with everything I purchase, I'm finding my self less-intrigued by it and I keep asking myself why I need it. Granted, I mainly purchased it to completely rid myself and my home of my several desktop computers.

I don't really do to much, but I'm considering sending it back..maybe I'll just sell it to someone locally sealed in the box. Ah well, I go through this with everything.

I cannot tell you how many times I bought a car CD player to replace my stock stereo with no CD player, only to return it asking myself: "wtf did I need it for anyway? I mean, how long do I spend in my car?"

/end rant.

 

yea i struggled with those thoughts when i was considering getting the 1405 months ago to replace my 700m. i figured my 700m was running great and had no problems and there was no reason to waste the time and effort to replace it. but then along came an offer i couldn't refuse on the 1420. since getting the 1420 i am glad i took the initiative and time to go through the hassles of Dell Customer Service to get exactly what i wanted. and thankfully, as a reward for dealing with their BS i will be paying much less for it in the end.

 

Ah, good old buyers remorse, at least yours is boxing and soon the box at your door will make you feel better.

 

You're probably right.

 

All this excitement for a laptop with an AMD processor and this 17' huge size? Uhuhuh, not so exciting!

Just kidding, enjoy your purchase

 

AMD owns Intel. My opinion..but that's what makes it true.

17" owns any other laptop screen sizes. period. OMG, another opinion.

AMD really does own intel though. Thx bai<3

 

omg AMD FAN BOI!! haha

 

Yep, and DAMNED proud to say it. Much like I'am proud to be an American. I don't like bandwagon hoppers, and thats what the MAJORITY of intel fan boi's are.

You'll never find someone who knows NOTHING about processors choosing AMD..maybe once in a while because of price, but 99% of the time they hop on the bandwagon than start splurting **** like they know what they are talking about.

 

b0r mines at my mom's house, i'll either have it tonight or tomorrow night more likely tonight

 

SWEET , i just called and it went from build stage to box stage !!
muahah i may just get my earlier like hopefully next week.

Ordered 12, july. but my dell id show it ordered on 13 (i'm not sure why)
I think my order did get expedited. (estimated august 3, my a$$ it is.. more like next week! ok thanks dell.)

 

lol, if my laptop went to my mothers house..I would have met the driver there. but ok man, we can start on your part of the review. I'm going to put it in HTML format and host it on my home server for andrew.

 

Alright thats cool w/e you want really, I'm going to be gone sunday til tuesday so i'll try and bring it with me to Mackinac with me up in northern MI not sure if i will tho

 

next time put your scrony inspiron in the title so we dont confuse it with the powerful m1330

 

i wont argue there. i have a custom built desktop with an AMD processor and the lappy with Intel. i like to go with the better deal at the time myself.

 

Umm, I am not a bandwagoner at all but it sure sounds to me like you are quite the AMD fan boy. I have an AMD in desktop, because at the time it was the best processor out there. But when i just ordered my laptop i got the intel because it is the best processor out now. Hate to break it to you but it kills the amd in performance, and its also better battery life.

 

Yes, Intel is currently outperforming AMD in the desktop market, due to the Core 2 Duo processors. Intel has ALWAYS outperformed AMD in the laptop market, due to the great power consumption it offers, due to their maturity.

 

Boxing Stage... Mine was in boxing for 3 days. I just called and woohooo laptop one of two is shipping... About FREAKIN time. Now I am trying to figure out why the other one is still in build mode for 16 days now.

SXO792

 

Hey bor, did you remember how long your order was in boxing stage? and when did you ordered?
thanks
did anyone else have there order in boxing stage )

 

mine was in boxing for less than a day i think

 

SWEET !!! just maybe mine 1720 will most likely ship next week ) i'm soo hype about this

 

Yes, Clovet. I have a timeline going lol.


7/7 -processing
7/8 -processing
7/9 -build
7/10 -build
7/11 -8am build
7/12 -7:23am build
7/13 -8:48 build
7/13 -12:21pm build
7/14 -7:44pm build
7/16 -9:39am build
7/16 -1:10pm build
7/16 -5:15pm build
7/17 - 5:45 build
7/18 - 12:24 build
7/18 - 9:30am boxing
7/19 - 2:26 boxing
7/19 - 6:56am boxing

To the others: Did I deny being a "fan boy"? Not one bit. I don't give 2 ****s on the floor who is "outperforming" who. My AMD's have NEVER done me wrong. We can take the whole "battery life" debate out of the equation since battery life is not an issue AT ALL with some people who will be getting desktop replacements or laptops they will not be travelling with.

Intel is not superior over AMD. Intel has been around longer, you would only EXPECT them to be doing better in some cases. I ALWAYS choose the underdog. I have seen/dealt with more failed intels than AMD's. In my opinion, intel has a set budget for marketing with commercials and such, where AMD does not, which leaves those extra few bucks to put into their PRODUCT, not tell people about it. AMD/ATI forever. no matter the situation.

Like I said before, if someone told me "the intel processor is the only one left in the world, you have no choice but to use it" I would demand a recount or stick to pen/paper and handheld games.

 

oh and i'm sorry did you say the word "KILLS"? ROFL.

Did you not see my other post with facts on intels overinflated L2's and jacked up prices?

The top tier mobile intel processor does not KILL/MAIM/DESTROY or DECIMATE the top tier mobile AMD processor. It simply does a LITTLE better, BUT not significantly enough to justify the price of the intel, or the ridiculously over inflated omg 32mb l2 cache they all have.

 

Mine's been in "Boxing" for 3 days now, and all the stupid Dell Indians will tell me is that my expected ship date is 8/3 <_<

 

My expected ship date is the 30th, and delivery the 31st. I'm not counting on it coming sooner, but I'm 2 days into "boxing". hopeuflly i get it by early next week the lastest.

 

I don't know about you, but I prefer to send the message to these companies that I'll buy from whichever one of has the best performance. Don't waste money on marketing, put it in making better chips and you'll do better. By rewarding innovation like that, I think it's really the consumers like you and me that win. If AMD was just surviving by a limb, then yes, I would only buy AMD, just so Intel would have competition, but that isn't the case, and AMD is doing plenty well as it is.

About 18 months ago, when I was buying a desktop, AMD was king of the roost. There were people saying exactly what you were saying, except switching the 'Intel's with 'AMD's and vice versa (recall that the Pentium and Celeron D Processors were $100-200 cheaper than their AMD equivalent). However, using the exact same rationale I am using right now as I buy a laptop, I said that I ought to reward innovation, so I bought an AMD dual core.

And as a side note, there is no reason why a large L2 would be bad in any way. In fact, it can speed up complicated instructions a great deal.

 

dude..look at my previous post where you just basically re-iterated what I first said about going with the company that puts more into their products and NONE into their marketing.

No one said a large L2 was bad..I said they are over-inflated and it's so funny how you can get a 500mb l2 on an intel, and a 2mb on an AMD performs a few hairs less.

 

The upper C2D's have 4MB of L2 cache, while the typical have 2MB...not sure what you are talking about...but most C2D's have 2MB of L2 cache while you are saying your AMD has 2MB as well, which sure seems to me as the same thing.

Also, an upgrade from 2MB of L2 cache to 4MB of L2 cache has proved quite beneficial in performance as well

 

err, first of all, what i was talking about were the overinflated intel l2 caches. The #'s I used were OBVIOUSLY exaggerated.

upper c2d is running 4mb..upper turion is running ONEmb l2..so..3mb l2 difference, and the actual difference in performance? not that great..considering the supposed 4mb.

 

Now that's funny! Boxing = on a plane from malaysia

 

Seriously, this was the converstation:

Me: I know my laptop is in the "Boxing" stage, but it's been in there for a couple of days and it's just stuck there - seriously, how long does it take to put in a box? (Yes, I know Boxing is code for plane from Malaysia)
Rep: We are currently experiencing shortages.
Me: My order is already built, dumbass.
Rep: My order status shows it is currently In Production with an estimated ship date of 8/3
Me: Listen to me you ****er, it is built, it is in the boxing stage, I have priority build next day and it gets built a lot sooner.
Rep: You can expect your order 3-5 business days after shipment
Me: WTF, you fag I have next business day shipping
Rep: Yes, you do.
Me: Where is my laptop?
Rep: I do not know.
Me: Does anyone know?
Rep: The only people that know is our production department, and you cannot speak to them.
Me: So I can't speak to anyone who actually knows what they are talking about?
Rep: I do not have the necessary tools, all I can tell you is that it is currently in production.
Me: You are the tool here.

This chat may or may not have been dramatized for special effects purposes.

 

Classic!!!

 

I would like to clarify, this was on the phone...after they called me to tell me my bluetooth remote (free) would ship once my laptop was shipped...

 

LMAO!!!! "I do not have the necessary tools"!!!! WTF???

 

Mine Is In The Boxing Stage Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yup sure did, maims, kills, rapes, murders, whatever word you wanna choose. I'm talking raw performance here, not regular surfing the net or playing games. No you won't see much of a different in day to day computing at all. However, if you are doing cpu intensive calculations yeah your AMD is just not gonna cut it when put up against the C2D (and if were amd making the better chip i would be making the arguement for them too)


I think this article will explain it enough

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/02/27/dual_core_notebook_cpus_explored/

 

Here's how the chat really went:

Rep: Welcome to Dell, how may I help you?
DB: Yes, hello sir, I was wondering what's up with my order? My order number is #######.
Rep: One second while I look it up....your order is currently in the Build stage and is scheduled for delivery on August 3.
DB: Alright! Thank you kind gentlemen!

 

No, not really...it lasted like 20 minutes, and like I said it was on the phone after THEM calling ME

 

Eh I just finished a call about them about how the box my laptop bag came in from DHL was damaged and it was open, and I asked if there was anyway I could get guaranteed that this wouldn't happen again, but to them this means "send a replacement bag".the actual bag isnt damaged :/ Wonder if I get to keep both bags...

 

Ask for a credit instead, or a coupon...

 

First of all, while in the middle of the toms hardware:

all I mainly see in the tests is a 2327mhz dual core intel vs a TL-56 AMD at 1800. the "higher" end TL-60's+ are not even in the benchmarking. NOT TO MENTION..NONE of the intel processors come CLOSE to the pricing AMD offers..thats #1.

The only example im going to use is this..

The AMD Turion 64 X2 TL-52 clocks in at 3:16 on an iTunes encode. 1.6ghz at $184 in february.

The Intel Core 2 Duo T7600 clocks in at 2:09 on an iTunes encode. 2.33ghz FOUR MB l2 cache..price? $637 in february.

Now, if we want to sit here and get down to BRASS god damned tacks..I'd rather wait ONE MINUTE on an iTunes ENCODE than spend $453 more. 453 dollars for ONE minute? or 1-2k on a 3dmark? Rofl..the winner in the wallet and common sense CONTINUES to be me and other AMD consumers.

Not to mention the benchs didnt even include a top tier AMD..which is still hundreds cheaper than a shintel. Price vs performance? ROFL. It will cost you 2k to get four of those dual cores if it were possible to mount 4 on one mobo and it would cost me 2k to get TEN of those processors. For the price..the intel corp as of right now are legalized thieves..AMD owns them in their pricing, especially since 1 minute equals 450+ dollars.

 

Well if you are going to choose to compare the tl-52 then why in the hell would you compare it to the t7600 as it is low-end vs. highest possible available. Ill admit the AMD is cheaper, but you get what you pay for. Lets compare the TL-52 to the low end of the 7XXX series in that review. the T7200 which was only $294 at the time, so $110 more (which was the best price/performance from that series). So there is still a 44 second difference in these two, since you rounded down to one minute in yours will round up to one minute in my comparison. So now you are converting oh about 200 off your cd collection to put them on your ipod. Thats an extra 3 hours to convert all that music.

Therefore, if you are spending a lot of your time doing encoding then this sure as hell adds up. If you are doing video editing and encoding hour long videos then it is going to make a large difference with the AMD vs. The C2D.

 

Well you JUST got done saying that the increase in L2 cache does nothing, but then you posted proof that it does the same thing in HALF the time!

 

I'm comparing them since the tl-52 and the t7600 dont differ that much as i explained when it comes to the encoding. a 400 dollar + difference does not add up.

How are you going to round 40 seconds to 1 minute? I rounded 1:10 to 1 minute. You're rounding 20 seconds to the nearest which makes no sense and completely changes the outcome.

the T7200 is STILL a 2.0ghz FOUR MB L2 cache bro..do you not understand this at all? Look, the T7200 is a 2ghz proc with a supposed 4mb of l2..the amd tl-52 is a 1.8ghz proc with a ONE mb l2..1mb..you're telling me that 3mb of l2 and 200mhz is worth only 40 seconds on an encode? maybe where you come from, but to me thats a rip off and is FAR from worth it.

 

What programs are used for checking your graphics card clock speed?

 

so 3mb's of L2 and 200mhz on a proc with a 40 second difference means that 4MB of L2 is worth it? or even sounds right? the laptops tested were off. the AMD laptop had valueram rofl. The intel had crucial ballistix ram. Same stats, and latencies but thats not the bottomline. ValueRam and crucial ram are not comparable no matter the situation.

 

You can't compare ghz and cache like that. You can only compare the 2 with benchmarks.

 

Oh this just in, the TL-52 is actually only a 1.6ghz processor. So the intel has 400 mhz of processor on it with 4mb l2 and only did 40 seconds better? give me a break. end of discussion. it will be fully opinionated to the death like politics. Intel=republicans..voted for bush and look what that got us. <3 the end.

 

My order was shipped today!

Overnight Fedex Delivery...not DHL...my FREE bluetooth remote and LoJack shipped DHL Overnight, but for some reason my 1420 was shipped Overnight Fedex

 

How long did it box?

 

Yo, you can't just compare like that. You can only compare benchmarks. If noticed, some of the c2d ghz are lower then the previous generations but their still faster. So, comparing ghz is not accurate.