T8300 vs. T7500

I noticed these are the same prices, and I saw on this that apparently the Penryn chips are better? I don't know what that is but Im assuming the Penryn is the T8300... Anyway i'm about to buy the xps m1530 in about half an hour, which should I get?

 

T8300 is 2.4 GHz, but has a 3 Mb L2 cache. Whereas the T7500 is 2.2 GHz with a 4 Mb L2 cache. I think the T8300 wins. Should have better battery life as well...

check this thread out:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3093762

NOTE- THE L2 CACHE WAS AT FIRST MISTAKENLY WRITTEN AS HAVING 3 AND 4 Gb FOR EACH PROCESSOR, IT HAS BEEN CORRECTED SO AS NOT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE...

 

will there be much of a difference if i change my RAM from 3 to 4 if i get the the new Penryn... since i have to add the 8600 i need to save money...

 

and why is it so much better? people seem really excited this!

 

it has a little better processing performance than the T7500, creates less heat, and uses less power (increasing your battery life). if you want to get ram, don't buy it from dell, buy it from newegg and put it in your laptop. dell ram prices are a rip off. you can get 4 Gb of ram for 80 bucks or less nowadays. the same goes for the hard drive. i would buy it elsewhere and put it in the laptop. it's easy, and will not even negate your warranty!

ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000260381+1309121118&name=4GB+(2+x+2GB)
hard drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000150380+1035507776&name=7200+RPM

you can take the hard drive you get with the computer and put it in an external enclosure. boom. two hard drives for what dell would have charged you for one.

external hard drive enclosures:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...31&Description=Hard+Drive+Enclosure&name=SATA

oh, and be sure you use a coupon from the dell deals section on this site:
http://www.notebookreview.com/dellCoupon.asp

it will save you either 200 or 350 dollars, depending on how much you are spending.

 

so if i don't care too much about heat or battery life and more about price should i just stick with the t7500 with 4gb ram instead of getting the t8300 with 3gb ram plus 100 more for the updated video card?

 

i'm not sure i understand. are you saying get
T7500 (which has 4 Mb of memory in its L2 cache), 4 Gb of SYSTEM ram, 8600 GT
OR
T8300 (which has 3 Mb of memory in its L2 cache), 3 Gb of SYSTEM ram, 8600 GT?

the price for both processors is 170$, so i'm not getting you. why not get the better processor (T8300) for the same price?

i would get:
T8300 with 1 Gb of SYSTEM ram, 8600 GT, and buy 4 Gb or ram from newegg and put it into the laptop. then sell the laptop ram (2 X 512) on ebay.


NOTE- AGAIN, I HAVE CORRECTED THE L2 CACHE SIZE, I INITIALLY MISTAKENLY SAID 3 AND 4 Gb LIKE AN IDIOT, IT HAS BEEN CORRECTED SO PEOPLE WON'T GET CONFUSED! WOOT!

 

yes exactly

 

no wait,

T7500, 4 Gb ram, 8400 GT
OR
T8300, 3 Gb ram, 8600 GT

 

Take the 2nd option for sure.

 

do you think the "average joe" computer user would notice a difference? as I am...

 

i think the second option will be noticeably better. i'm with darkseige. given those two options, i would go with option 2 for sure.

T8300, 3 Gb of ram, 8600 GT

 

there are a lot of question like this. If you really do a search before post, it will save forum space
The answer is: beside you do video editing and multi tasking, you will find a slightly faster speed with peryn and a few minute in battery life.
@000111: maybe he getting the last deal, best options which has the 3gb ram minimum. I would just stay with 3gb, it's more than enough for most of us.

 

Just do what I did dont worry about money and buy the T8300 with 4 gb ram...only $50 in america to upgrade from 3 to 4

 

Wrong...

Interestingly, even the results of the PCMark 2005 benchmark test showed hardly any advantage of the Penryn processor. The same can be said about the marginal point difference with the 3DMark 2006 CPU benchmark.


the Penryn system managed a 4 minutes longer battery lifetime over the total duration of 90 minutes in the Classic Test (Last) of the software tool Batteryeater. In the Readers test (simulation of reading text with lowest brightness), the Penryn configuration led by 9 minutes (total life time 148 minutes)

yippie... look at the HUGE difference!!!

 

Jack 53, not sure where you quoted that from but The penryn chips very consistenty extend battery life by 10% and performance by 5%. See AnandTech and Tom's Hardware if you don't believe it. I'm typing this on an Inspiron 1720 that I purchased largely because it was available with the T8300, My Bat life is observably better with the penryn's lower core voltage.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Intel-Core-2-Duo-Penryn-CPUs.7876.0.html

 

Soo Which cpus are penryn?

 

hehe... funny. hey, jack- the processors are the same price, so why not get the better one? no need to "wrong" the guy. lol.

chris, yours is.

 

dude sweet Cuz like I had the 2.0 on there and it was only 75$ more to upgrade to 2.4

 

Well photpatt said:

I'm just saying there isn't THAT much difference between them. So the folks that have the T7500 (like myself) don't have to fret that they're missing out. They're not. Very marginal difference. But, if you DO have a choice, then ok, pick the T8300.

 

It really bothers me that no one points this out...
For the L2 cache, it should be MB instead of GB, so T8300 has 3 MB and T7500 has 4 MB.
For further info, head over to Intel: http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm?iid=prod_core2duo+tab_spec
And click on "View laptop processor specifications."

 

word jack53. nice catch, gamafu- my bad. it is disturbing nobody pointed that mistake out, where are all the L2 cache correction officers on this forum!!!??? i'm just so used to typing Gb instead of Mb nowadays. funny, i was at the intel page for the T8300 today (i think you mean this page?),

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sspec=slapu

and STILL typed Gb over multiple posts, what a dumbass i am. i won't make that mistake again, maybe.
hehe.

NOTE- I WENT BACK AND CHANGED THE L2 CACHE LISTING IN POSTS #2 AND #7 FROM THE INCORRECT FIRST LISTING OF Gb TO Mb. I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE MORE PEOPLE THAN I ALREADY HAVE. BOOYA!

 

I got the T8300 after returning a couple of T7500 machines for other reasons.. I love it. Get the newer processor for no other reason than to have today's technology rather than yesterday's. Once software is written to support intel's new processor code programs will run even faster on the Penryn proc.s.

 

if you're going to be using Vista 32bit it can only process up to 3.5 gigs. unless you're going to use 64bit vista just stick with: T8300, 3Gb, 8600GT

 

I laugh whenever I hear someone say that... as in 3-4 months what you have will be " yesterdays" technology!
I WAS in your shoes with "todays" technology" as short as a week ago! LOL

 

What the heck does this all mean? I just ordered a T8300 with 4GBs of Ram. Does the 3G cache means that 1G of my ram is useless?

 

No, having 3MB of Cache on your T8300 doesn't mean that 1GB of your RAM is useless.

The only reason 1GB of your 4GB will be somewhat useless is because of the limitations of 32bit Windows. To utilise all of your 4GB you need to use 64bit operating software, which Dell isn't offering as standard atm - but something you can personally "upgrade" to if needed.

 

If you're running Vista 32Bit it won't recognize the 4GB of ram anyway so I'd go for the T8300, 3GB ram.

 

What the heck do you need 3 GB of RAM for anyways? 2 GB should be fine for almost everything.

 

Not with many of todays programs, especially if you have several open and if your using memory hog VISTA! You play games? You need more memory. You do a lot of Video or Photo editing? You need more memory!

You stay at 2GB, I'm glad to have 3GB's and I USE it.

 

YEah and Im getting 4 so ill have like 3.5 so I can like play games while video editing and typing on here and running vista and stuff

 

well this is issue, I currently have a new xps m1530 with the T2750, 4gb memory(vista 32bit actually says i have 3.58), and i have the grainy screen problem, i am currently awaiting my replacement lcd. if i get another samsung lcd when it gets here should i return the current m1530 i have and reorder a new 1530 with the T8300 and 3gb memory, that will be the same price as the current configuration that i have?

 

... Wow you're bitter... So its better to try to encourage people to buy something that will be 2 generations old in 3-4 months, rather then 1 generation old? Seems kinda flawed/short sighted.

Fact of the matter is the new penryn chips are NOTICEABLY better then the santa rosa ones in all quantifiable benchmarks, and cost the same. The difference could be as small as 0.001%, and it would STILL be foolish for you to advise someone to go with a t7500 over a t8300. Newer architecture, smaller die size, less power consumption, runs cooler, etc... all on top of it having better 'on paper' specs.

Lets be clear here, if you are looking at a santa rosa chip and are not being offered large discounts(or you live in a market where dell charges a outrageous premium for penryn[prob. going to be the case in canada]) you're wasting your time and money.

 

This review doen't support your position. From the article you linked "an approximately 10% lower maximal power consumption of the Penryn processor in all tests." add this to the reviews that I listed claiming 10%better bat. life and 5% better performance. These are widely accepted figures.

 

Apparently you can't READ! I said I was laughing. Or maybe you READ too much into things? LOL
Uhh that was in English.