The Dell Studio 17 got a new revision (It sucks)

Why the hell did Dell do this?

The Dell Studio 17 just got a revision at CES which includes i5-520m, which is nice. What isn't nice is that the Dell Studio 17 is only available with ty Intel graphics and a 900p monitor. People be glad you bought your Studio 17 when the better graphics card and monitor was available.

Edit: Nevermind I guess the old processor was even better than this one. What did Dell do? Are they making a poor business decision in which they are trying to differentate the Dell Studio 17 as the supposed inferior device to the Studio XPS 16?

 

The i7 version is still available.

 

What region are you in? It isn't showing up on the US Store.

 

I think the point in this configuration is lowering the energy consumption.
The new i5 CPU's even have their own GPU inside.

These are not speed monsters/energy hogs,but they last longer when running on battery and are more than fast enough for normal (non-gaming/cad/rendering) usage.

 

It's in the US store under "Performance Laptops Deals". I linked to it in the 1747 thread.

 

I don't get the 900P screen, why not offer a higher resolution for the larger screen? It just makes no sense what so ever to have a higher resolution in the Studio 15 than the Studio 17.

 

Studio 17 1080p RGB screen is out of stock, I suspect due to great sales during holiday season. I am sure they are trying to make more, but they don't want people sitting on their waiting for 2 months for a laptop. I have the 1080p screen and it's really good.

 

Pure stupidty, a 17 machine CAN NOT be allowed with an Intel graphics. 17 inchers are meant to be Desktop replacements.

But I understand why DELL, does this.

#1. To force people who want dedicated graphics, towards a Studio XPS.
#2. Because the Core i5 Core i7 at 45nm uses 45 Watts TDP, plus another 40 Watts from a Dedicated Graphics the thing would have horrible battery life.


Its sad and silly that a 1737 I bought almost 14 months ago.

would put to shame in Gaming, a brand new Studio 17 because they now have Intel graphics. Not to mention no more Bluray Drives, or RGB LED.

Sad.

 

Hi Ice Cold

I agree with your arguements in general. But I don't understand why you say that this laptop would get horrible battery life. I've read one review which says it gets 3.5 hours, and another one that says 4+ hours. This seems like pretty good battery life to me. What do you consider good?

Thanks!
Rayt

 

well I have seen Intel's taking steps forward, in effciency and power and GHZ. The 45nm Corei7's use 45 watts TDP, and are only 2 Cores with 2 extra threads.

I would like to see the new Core i7's that are 32nm are 35 Watts TDP thats better.

The curve is smaller die 32nm faster Ghz, less heat faster cheaper better, 45nm 45 watts TDP 2 Core not good.

 

Correction: the 45nm have 4 physical cores (8 threads in total).

I agree, Dell is avoiding another throttling problem. But I believe they're planning to put the Ati 5000 series in their laptops soon.
They will be doing it in their new inspiron lines according to their support pages (drivers and manuals).

The problem is Ati was having difficulties with their production line and expected volumes we're not produced. I don't know if they already solved that. But it means you'll have to be a bit patient.

As I have shown in the studio 1747 thread (post #976), the arrandale + Ati 5000-series combination would give a much lower power consumption.

 

Heck a Core i5 32nm Arrandale would be great. HOWEVER. The i5-540M at 2.53 Ghz would be just as fast as my T9400 at 2.53Ghz. Bot use 35 Watts TDP, but overall since the Core i5 is 32nm it will run cooler and no NorthBridge will save more energy overall.

But the big deal is Turbo Boost, ok so when ever its cool enough, the Core i5 will shut down 1 Core, leaving only 1 Core and 1 Thread, to run at 3.06Ghz.

Its really not that big of a deal.

 

the 540m is faster than the T9400 for a couple reasons. First it is faster clock for clock so you are getting more work done with each Mhz, it is a completely different architecture. Second is hyper-threading. Turbo is just a bonus but an important one. Even though more and more software is multi-core aware a lot will still function faster with a faster single core.

 

not allowed??

what kind of weird statement is that?
Yes 17" are desktop replacement, i always use them like that but NOT for gaming but for coding. so what is need is a 1080p+ screen if the onboard intel is fast enough for Windows 7 UI then i am fine with it

I ordered for my coworkers 4x 1747 with the 1080p screen and a Core i7 820 i tried to get the cheapest and lowest possible gpu as possible but that was just not possible i had to take a 1G ATI card that i really dont need (and with power consumption in mind also dont really want!)

So everybody has there own need, i just need 3 things
fast cpu
ssd
large resolution screen.

 

joco: I totally agree with you. I'm waiting for the 17 studio with a i7 620m (dual core) and a 1080p screen. And it would be great if the dedicated gfx would be optional.
I was also looking what other manufactores are offering but none of them has what I'm looking for, so I hope that Dell will start offering the i7 620m once they got rid of all the penryns they still have on stock.

Mat

 

Plus, the Core i5/i7's do away with the FSB, if I am not mistaken allowing faster RAM and speeds to and from the graphics chip.