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    Thinking of upgrading 1.86 Ghz CPU to 2.0 Ghz CPU

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Butterfingers, Feb 28, 2006.

  1. Butterfingers

    Butterfingers Newbie

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    Hi,

    I just recieved my 1.86 Ghz CPU e1705 and am thinking of upgrading it to the 2.0 Ghz CPU before my 21 days are up.
    I am not sure what's the performance hit difference between the two, and I would like some opinions if I should really go through the hassle to make the upgrade.
    I am not into intense gaming these days but would like to game at the best settings if and when I play.
    Is there a huge difference in gaming performance between the two CPUs? I currenly have the 7800 Go Graphics card.

    Thanks for the feedback!
     
  2. JiantBrane

    JiantBrane Notebook Evangelist

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    Factoring in shipping costs, the cost of the upgrade, the effort involved, and the downtime of not having a computer, it isn't even close to worth it. What you've currently got is plenty of muscle for anything you'll be throwing at it for quite some time, and you really wouldn't notice the difference.

    If I remember correctly, there's also quite a price hike from 1.86 to 2.0 - more than would be worth it even if you were still in the process of buying the first one.

    Third, whoever wrote the (really handy) video card guide pointed out that you don't need to worry about whether your computer can play the games you want to play at the highest settings, but whether or not it will play them at all. This is especially true in your case, given that you don't have any specific plans to game.

    Enjoy the machine you bought; others seem to be quite happy with it.
     
  3. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    All that HMLintz said stands, plus I have 1,86 and my Bios can by default overclock the FSB by only 5% thus making my memory to run at 140 (quadpumped) and my cpu at 1,96. It is faster than 2,0 default! So if a miserable 5% overclock does that, why would you worry about sending it and risking many other things in the process...

    Cheers,
     
  4. Fredrick_NP

    Fredrick_NP Notebook Consultant

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    :eek:

    I didn't know notebook CPUs could be overclocked.
     
  5. Jason

    Jason Overclocker NBR Reviewer

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    Yep.. they sure can, but be careful when overclocking a notebook CPU. Because you can't add extra fans / or a liquid cooling system, don't overclock it too much, otherwise it might over heat. :p

    But upgrading from 1.86 to 2.0ghz isn't worth it. If your looking for a slight speed boost upgrade the RAM or HD to a faster RPM HD.
     
  6. Fredrick_NP

    Fredrick_NP Notebook Consultant

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    Do you know where I could find out more about overclocking notebook cpus?

    I never looked into it because I didnt think it was possible.
     
  7. Kadahaf

    Kadahaf Notebook Enthusiast

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    Fiddle around with the bios and look in the memory speed section...
     
  8. brn80

    brn80 Notebook Geek

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    I don't think a Dell notebook can be overclocked though.
     
  9. drumfu

    drumfu super modfu

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    i don't think the maker of a notebook has any bearing on whether the cpu can or can't be overclocked.
     
  10. ikovac

    ikovac Cooler and faster... NBR Reviewer

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    Clockgen. Try that and see if it works. It is not easy to get the right Clockgen for your clock, (based on mainboard), but if you find it (mostly 855 boards) you will be very happy. I found one for my old Asus M6N.

    My old Asus at 1.6 was happily calculating all it should at 1,9GHz. It is very fast. Actually you never overclock CPU - you overclock the clock generator that overclocks FSB that connects CPU and memory. Memory works faster, FSB works faster and CPU works faster. They work in synergy meaning 5% overclock gives you more than 5% total speed. In my case 1,86GHz Dothan at 1,96GHz is faster than 2,0GHz Dothan. But unfortunately my current overclock is made through BIOS and in fact it is a feature of this notebook. I didn't find any software that could do it from windows, and CLockGen still doesn't have any available for 915 chipset.

    Cheers,
     
  11. brn80

    brn80 Notebook Geek

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    I guess I meant to say I don't think Dell lets you overclock using their BIOS. At least not mine; unless I missed something. But as ikovac pointed out you can get software based overclocking, althought I'd rather do it through the bios.
     
  12. whiterequiem

    whiterequiem Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey...i am in a dilemma here and i just want to know what do you think.
    i will order my e1705 and i just don know if picking the dvdrw or upgrading my 1.66ghz core duo to a 1.83ghz core duo...what do you think...what would you choose...i will mainly use my e1705 for gaming and watching DVD's
     
  13. Metamorphical

    Metamorphical Good computer user

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    I would upgrade either the memory or the harddrive and not worry about the CPU. A 1.66 Core duo is fast enough. The benefits of more memory and a faster hard drive outway those of the CPU and it'll be cheaper to upgrade ram or HD anyways.
     
  14. whiterequiem

    whiterequiem Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks metamorphical...i also want to know what is the difference between i gb of 333mhz of ram and another one of 533mhz...cause mine says it is a 333mhz...what is the difference between the 333mhz and the 533mhz?
     
  15. orijin

    orijin Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    i saw cpu 3dmark06 scores on the e1705 my e1705 on a duo 1.6 gets around i think 1350 while i saw someone's while a 2.0 has around 1650. Dont know about the amount of difference between points but i only get around 300-400 less on pcmark score overall. For having a 1.6 and not a 2.0
     
  16. UNICRON-WMD

    UNICRON-WMD Notebook Guru

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    DDR2 - 266mhz = 533mhz Pentium M
    DDR2 - 333mhz = 667mhz Core Duo