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    Vista & other programs compatibility

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by i3urtongirl, Aug 26, 2007.

  1. i3urtongirl

    i3urtongirl Notebook Consultant

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    So while I'm waiting for my laptop I was wondering a few things... I know you can run XP programs on Vista using the Compatibility Wizard but, is it going to work at good as on XP?

    I was just curious as to whether I should install Photoshop CS2 and QuarkXPress 6.0 on my (future lol) laptop or not...
     
  2. Les

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    Most work perfectly but you have to consult with each because some do not work. I have a Panasonic Voice recorder which has software that is not compatible in any way shape or form. It will not install
     
  3. anime_freak

    anime_freak Notebook Geek

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    Once it gets working in compatibility mode then it'll run as good as xp and yeah CS2,QXP works fine for me in vista
     
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    Do yourself a huge favor. dump vista permanently and UPgrade to xp. Vista is a joke.
     
  5. Les

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    Ya thats good advise...stay with an antequated system that crashes regularly and has to be rebooted rather than fix its own problems. To add, limit yourself to future compatibility and using a system that cant keep up with newer PC hardware.

    Yup makes sense....

    The only people that I know of that pass that advise are those without the knowledge to mould Vista to their needs or are stuck in a work environment that necessitates XP because of the large network purchase made.

    Edit ...oh and dont forget to get the above poster to tell you how simple it was installing XP on his new system. He couldn't do it without help from others and an immense amount of trouble....thats knowledge I guess.
     
  6. i3urtongirl

    i3urtongirl Notebook Consultant

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    haahahaha
    thank you for answering my question, I was a bit disapointed to know that I had to go with Vista at first but just knowing that I won't have to buy new software makes it easier to accept it.
     
  7. cell323

    cell323 Notebook Consultant

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    hahahaha! 0wned! :D :cool:
     
  8. tomcatTX

    tomcatTX Notebook Guru

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    Flamenko...someone having problems installing an OS due to drivers not being included with the system is not at all any type of substance for your argument.

    I for one will not run Vista until at least SP1. So, I reckon I am one of those without the knowledge to "mold it to my needs". Uh huh, and pigs fly. The fact of the matter is that Vista flat does not work with a tremendous number of applications....and it especially has issues with audio and video editing.

    Why in the world would I want to waste my time getting applications to work with it now? To what end? Will it speed up my work? Nope? Why...so I can brag to folks that I got it to work? Again, a waste of time.

    Fancy graphics and pain in the butt security does not a good OS make.
     
  9. billcsho

    billcsho Notebook Deity

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    Many programs cannot run even in compatibility mode. In fact, I found only around half of the programs work in XP compatibility mode.
     
  10. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    I am running PhotoShop CS2 on Vista Home Premium without any issues. I cannot address QuarkXPress 6.0, as I do not have it.
     
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    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    I've not found anything (yet) that ran on XP and does not run on Vista (other than ActiveSync, which was replaced by WMDC). And I am not running anything in compatibility mode, either.
     
  12. billcsho

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    Nero6, eRightSoft SUPER, .... just name a couple that I found problem in the last couple days.
     
  13. i3urtongirl

    i3urtongirl Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks!

    And thanks to you too!

    A big relief to know that I won't have to buy or borrow a Vista compatible or buy CS3
     
  14. ScanR

    ScanR Notebook Consultant

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    For now there will be a number of softwares that wont really work w/ vista so before installing those softwares be sure to check w/ the manufacturer if that software your installing is compatible w/ vista.

    Lets give vista sometime to mature its just like XP before it do have a lot of problems regarding compatibilities. When the SP1 for vista will be released I believe it can resolve most of our issues that were encountering now.
     
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    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    It is also possible to overcome some program's issues with Vista by locating the program in Windows Explorer, right-clicking on it, and selecting "Run as administrator". This only need be done one time per program. Another way is to turn off UAC.
     
  16. chelet

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    Preview of Vista SP1
    http://apcmag.com/6929/vista_sp1_in_depth

    Some of those performance fixes look like they'd help with video editing.
     
  17. Les

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    Wow...created quite the return in what I said but quite expectedly I will admit. Can I ask the authors above list the programs that they speak of that arent compatible with Vista rather than running a generality.

    Conceding, as I have previously that there are certain programs (few it turns out mind you) that absolutely arent compatible, and i will use nero6 as an example, we should be identifying that Vista doesnt suit us presently as we dont have the funds to upgrade software. We could then buy a newer version of Nero.

    This is not a reflection of Vista. Care to admit it or not, Vista single handedly drove down the prices of former power systems and put them in the reach of consumers; simply by the demanding needs of the OS.

    The end result is there are many who are not new computer purchasers who are robbed by the benefits of technology because you are, at times, forced to remain within the confines of XP.
     
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    cell323 Notebook Consultant

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    Please name the programs.

    I haven't encountered one that doesn't work.
     
  19. jimmy_simms

    jimmy_simms Notebook Consultant

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    It's pointless for a home user to stay with XP, Vista is the platform of the future, well at least for the next three or so years.

    Only bussiness right now should stay with XP, even gamers wanting to use the next generations games that run DX10, will have to run Vista.
     
  20. billcsho

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    I already did. It seems the programs that did not work in Vista (even with adminatrator and/or xp compatibility mode) are related to video codecs and DVD/cd authoring.

    For a more complete list, see http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.php/Windows_Vista_Software_Compatibility_List. Don't be surprised by the number of programs that are having problem with Vista.
     
  21. AKAJohnDoe

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    Interesting list. Many of those are obsolete versions of programs that would have been upgraded to current levels, even on an XP system, by a conscientious user before now, others are just plain wrong (I ran several of them on Vista without any problems whatsoever), many are utility programs, which are notorious for being tweaked at the lowest coding levels to only work within a very narrow band of environment, then there's games, which I do not run, and still others are surprising that they were reported as having had problems.

    Not that Vista is perfection or Nirvana in an operating system, nor that I am personally pleased with the direction Microsoft took it in all areas, but truth be told, I have not used my XP system since getting my Vista system.
     
  22. chelet

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    You should try them in Windows 98 compatibility mode too. My academic testing software only works in Vista's Win 98 compatibility mode. It won't work in Vista's XP compatibility mode, even though it works in XP natively. I've read that some games are the same way, so it wouldn't surprise me if using Win 98 compatibility also helps with other software.
     
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    u know, i really am not a huge fan of the whole vista vs. XP thing. everyone has their own reservations at first, but if you really consider it critically, vista and XP both have their ups and downs. for instance, my x-fi notebook isnt fully supported in either operating system. if i want 5.1 in vista i have to buy a 30 dollar dock extra, and if i want it in xp i can just set it to optical. but neither actually have let me test which works. i know that VLC lets me use dts with dvd's on vista no problem, even though it says the speaker set up is 2/2.1/headphone. on XP im still trying to get the codecs to work. i decided to go with XP until vista SP1 reviews come out and i can see how much better it is. that way i can also get it for cheap at my university. until then, i just need to build on XP and if i get bored, i'll tinker with linux on the side.

    if your software works on XP, use XP. if it works on vista, use vista, u'll eventually be forced to anyways. just check online, im sure there are ways to make the program work.

    in retrospect, that comment was more of an outburst and probably didnt help. oh well.
     
  24. billcsho

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    Even Outlook 2002/2003 has problem. Does not keep password in Vista. Many of the incompatible applications are released within the last 12 month. Obviously, if you don't need any of those program, you are perfectly fine with Vista. Or, if you are rich enough to buy all the upgrades. Nero 6, System Mechanic Pro 7, Adobe Premiere 7, EncoreDVD 2.0, Ulead Video Studio 9, DocumentToGo 9, Autocad 2006, .....

    Read the latest issue of PCMag. It declares the Vista a failure.

    Chelet,
    FYI. Most XP programs cannot be run in Win98 mode either.

    If you are doing fine with WinXP, don't migrate (downgrade) to Vista at least until SP1.
     
  25. AKAJohnDoe

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    It does not.
     
  26. Les

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    And we're on the same argument which only Supports the Vista side. AlL the naysayers will quote you outdated Vista compatability lists but wont quote for you what has failed for them. This is because the majority of these have yet to even try Vista. Further, they will read an article and say, well it must be. I could read 100 articles that say Vista is a failure and then stand beside each author and prove a better point. Vista is not the future, it is now. It is proven and very much an upgrade. The very fact that you can recover from a crash without the whole system having to be rebooted is absolutely huge. I don have to mention that even with compatability issues, crashes are virtually nonexistant for the AVERAGE user. Secondly, Vista has done miracles for the consumer and hardware purchases. It is solely because of the Vista requirements and MS insistance that it replace XP that each and every hardware manufacturer and PC maker had to revisit the drawing board.

    The end result is that we consumers can now by standard systems today at standard prices which were considered monster systems and unreachable the day before Vista release.

    There is simply no way to dispute this. Look at any PC now for sale. Quite frankly THANK YOU MICROSOFT!!!
     
  27. billcsho

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    It is the latest issue that I received yesterday.
     
  28. Les

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    Trying to find the article....can you give up a title or author or perhaps cut and paste the excerpt.