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    What do dell users think about the macbook pro?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by dumplinknet, Dec 27, 2007.

  1. dumplinknet

    dumplinknet Notebook Consultant

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    Its basiclly the same as the XPS 1530 and more if youthink about it. the only main difference is the operating system which doesnt matter because mac can run windows in paralles and XPS 1530 can hack leopard OSX for completely usability to run on PC.
    i was wondering what do you guys think about XPS 1530 being a rival to the macbook pro. looks, design, hardware?
    do you think macworld will spill out something in response to dell's XPS line and try to top it out?

    What do you guys think about the XPS 1530 and the mac book pro?
     
  2. phish

    phish Notebook Consultant

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    the macbook pro is great, i almost got one. but with the 1530 being $800 cheaper and better specs with the $669 off coupon and student discount, well it didn't make much sense for me to get the MBP. I am just gonna throw Ubuntu on it anyways
     
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    im probably in the minority, but i dont care for the look of macs
     
  4. dvmxps1530

    dvmxps1530 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm a PC person . I love Mac too and I would change if I can afford the damn thing... 2200 with tax.. no way..
     
  5. booger

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    I agree. Mac's are great but they cost way too much. I switched to Ubuntu instead and am loving it.
     
  6. frazell

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    Agreed too here...

    Macs are far too expensive for me. I'm am both cheap and technically inclined so I can't justify spending ~$1K more for the same thing i got from Dell. The Mac OS or the machine are not pretty enough to justify that kind of cost to me...
     
  7. Illegal Operation

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    I think the macbook pro is a great system. However, I choose to go with a pc over it because of price and greater selection of programs for PC.
     
  8. scythie

    scythie I died for your sins.

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    If I had the money I'd go with the MBP. Admittedly the 1530 looks sleek as well, but its missing a few "ooh's" the MBP has [not that I need a backlit keyboard or everything else the MBP has that the Dell lacks, but...]. Plus, the MBP has earned itself some major status already.

    And I'm curious as to how OS X would work for me. I got to play around with an MBP once before and I was impressed with Leopard. The fact that I can boot up MS too [for gaming of course] is a major plus.

    Overall, it's the price that really hinders it from becoming everyone's laptop, but it's also what separates it from the rest.
     
  9. H3rmaN

    H3rmaN Notebook Evangelist

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    Never been a fan of Macs or ANY Apple hardware TBH! Esp the iPods! I'll stick with my trusty PC and Creative Zen Micro! ;)
     
  10. nizzy1115

    nizzy1115 Notebook Prophet

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    I second that!
     
  11. kkl1014

    kkl1014 Notebook Consultant

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    I gave it some thought this summer, but I figured that it was impossible to get a Mac without joining the "Cult of Apple".
     
  12. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hey, I'm a Mac user but I'm no Mac fanboy ;).
     
  13. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

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    Well, I'm kind of conflicted about the MBP.

    On the one hand, it's one of the thinnest and lightest 15.4" laptops around, with one of the nicest screens around. And it's powerful. And stylish.

    On the other hand, the keyboard's a bit mushy for my taste, and I've heard it tends to get hot. The design (essentially the same as the PowerBook design) hasn't changed very much in the last decade. And the OS it comes with only runs on one company's hardware (unless you want to play with hacked versions), which makes me lose interest in it. And it's expensive.

    With Dell's current deals, you can get an XPS M1530 that's at least as powerful and also thin and stylish (although a little bit heavier) and with a longer warranty for less money. But if you really want to run OS X, then I'd recommend going with the MBP.
     
  14. FearTheTerp

    FearTheTerp Notebook Consultant

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    I don't see the appeal of OS X or Mac's in general They are a good $500+ more expensive than similarly configured PC's. I loathe using my friend's macbook. It's not very fast, logging onto another guest account in iChat is ridiculously complicated. I don't like undersimplified things like OSX. I really don't see the appeal other than your spending more money just for the hell of it.
     
  15. lambchops468

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    mbp's look great...they're so thin. I saw a 17" screen mbp the other day and i was like WOW that thing pops...made me sad about dell screens.

    they are expensive though.

    MAC OS X....its a wonder. apparently the performance increases with each release on the same hardware.
     
  16. Zahn1138

    Zahn1138 Notebook Consultant

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    Well, I basically wanted a MacBook Pro for several reasons. First off, the quality of the hardware. Fast, modern processors, great graphics cards, high quality screens and overall toughness. The second reason was that all of it fits into something an inch thick. It's also very light. Those really attracted me to it. One thing I like is the slot-loading drive, as I've always had paranoid fantasies about breaking off laptop trays. Another is the magnetic cable, which pulls out easily with too much tension to prevent the laptop from falling.

    Downsides: Mac OS. I've used the last two on friends' computers and in computer labs (my school has lots of iMacs around). I've found the Macs to be invariably sluggish and unresponsive. Despite the amount of hardware, you get very little performance relative to what you would get on a PC.

    I know Mac users will claim that older Macs still run great and you don't need to upgrade them, but the older Macs I've used are terrible. When at my college's orientation, they had us register on iMacs with OS X. I think these were the ones immediately after they switched to Intel chips. Sluggish and slow. I did not like them. Then when I showed my schedule to my advisor and she let me use her computer to run something, it was blazingly fast. However, her computer appeared to have either XP Pro or Windows 2000. It was running IE5 and appeared to be an older computer. It was way faster than any "old but still good" iMac.

    The thing that KILLED the MacBook Pro for me was the price. The price is terrible. I determined that even if I accounted for the differrentials of the $2,500 MacBook by educational discount, LED screen, high-res (M1530 didn't have at the time I bought it), processor, and everything, I was paying something crazy like $1250 to get the SAME hardware and Mac OS from Apple.


    Thanks Steve Jobs. You gave me the laptop I wanted, Dell copied it, and I got it from them for half the price.
     
  17. MrBubbles

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    I don't, it's like comparing apples and dell's (uh sorry), oranges. :wink:
     
  18. FearTheTerp

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    haha Well said
     
  19. Aeir

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    I have a Macbook, and I lived with having it for almost a year.

    Until I realized I'm a business student that has a serious gaming problem. Neither being a business student not a gamer is being helped by using Mac OSX.

    So I bought an M1530 instead. :)
     
  20. surfasb

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    Zahn1138 Notebook Consultant

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    :twitcy:

    Wow. Those guys get intense.
     
  22. surfasb

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    Mac users are haters while PC users keep know there is an appropriate tool for every task.
     
  23. Sam

    Sam Notebook Virtuoso

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    This is generalizing all Mac users...and is grossly false.

    I'll keep my opinions over at the other thread :p.
     
  24. dumplinknet

    dumplinknet Notebook Consultant

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    hey guys, no need to talk trash on the mac user over there. MBPs are just as great as the XPS 1530 - if not its in a league of its own.

    but both NB are good in its own thing with specs both identical (if not highly similar).
     
  25. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    Mac users are sensatEEVE :) The generalization continues though. I'm typing this on a Macbook I got off Ebay at the moment.......
     
  26. surfasb

    surfasb Titles Shmm-itles

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    I do like how the Macbook is smaller than my 1420. Now if I could only get my Bluetooth mouse to work on it....
     
  27. Zahn1138

    Zahn1138 Notebook Consultant

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    One thing I'm forced to say is that if you want a very portable notebook (12.1-14.1 inches), the MacBook is my recommendation. It's great for the price and will have everything you need in a portable.
     
  28. surfasb

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    I prefer the m1330 myself for the 12.1" - 14.1". More options and bigger harddrive (80gb vs 120). If I only could hack together a Macbook M1330........

    My very own Hackintosh.
     
  29. outkastland

    outkastland Notebook Evangelist

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    I personally love macbook pro. Do I own one? No, I own dell. Why? Price point and bang for buck on the exact same configurations. I think if you have the extra money to indulge and want to be part of the elite with your fancy shiny thin macbook pro then by all means. If you want to save a ton of money and get the same power then go for dell.

    In my case I prefer the small, thin and light laptops so currently I am, waiting on my M1330 to arrive in the mail. I have used the 13.3 inch macbook and it just doesn't justify the extra cost.
     
  30. Razor2

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    The Macbook Pro is nice, stylish with the same power as my 1520. Almost bought one, before this Dell. The main problem (and cause for the almost buying part) is the price. Even with every discount the same specs would have been 5-600€ more.
     
  31. dumplinknet

    dumplinknet Notebook Consultant

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    wow. this thread got knocked all the way back to page 3 whereas the same question for the mac forum is all the way at the top since yesterday!
     
  32. outkastland

    outkastland Notebook Evangelist

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    whats the link to that forum and thread?
     
  33. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I like the keyboard on the 13.3" Macbook, that's about it.

    I think the design of the MB and MBP are bland and uninteresting, while Apple claims OS X to be both innovative and powerful.

    Performance wise, given similar specs, both would perform similarly in both Windows and OS X given both notebooks could use either OS natively.

    Just because one says "Dell" and one says "Apple" doesn't mean it performs better or worse.
     
  34. greystone

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    You lost all credibility with this. Inane.
     
  35. surfasb

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    It's his opinion. I think the biggest advantage to using a Mac is the software. The most non technology and non adaptive people I know all love the Mac. It's so easy a four year old can use it.

    That being said, the reason why no one uses Apple servers is because, well, with simplicity comes inflexibility. By definition, for something to be flexible, it needs to present the user lots of options. It needs to be open, not linear. A non linear approach confuses novices as it presents no direction. It assumes you know what direction you want to go.

    Also another reason is the lack of decent enterprise grade software available for it.
     
  36. swarmer

    swarmer beep beep

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    Hmmm... okay, that was sort of from memory.

    Now that I look at the pictures in Wikipedia, it's not until 2003's Powerbook G4 that Apple adopts a design for the Powerbook that I consider to be essentially similar to their current design. (And I'm talking about exterior design, not innards.)

    The 2001 Titanium Powerbook G4 (see the link above) also resembles the current MBP in some ways.
     
  37. zipx2k5

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    That's exactly how I feel about the MBP. Well said! I was seriously considering getting one, until Dell came out with the XPS M1530. Apple just cannot compete on price.
     
  38. pitz

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    First of all, putting Mac OS onto a non-Mac isn't even worth mention -- MacOS is not licensed for such use, and we have to respect the wishes of the copyright owners.

    Personally I wouldn't buy a MacBook because I don't like the lack of a trackpoint on any of their models (correct me if I'm wrong though). And the keyboard on the 13.3" macbook is just hideous. 'nuff said.
     
  39. SoundsGood

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    I know this is an old thread, but that's a great comment! :)