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    When will Dell 710m be releasing exactly?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by maxstudy, Nov 4, 2005.

  1. maxstudy

    maxstudy Newbie

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    I am getting weary of waiting this new model from Dell.
    Does anyone have an idea?
    Heard that it was already released even with coupon offers in Japan.
     
  2. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    The site admins here may or may not have insight, and if we did, we wouldn't be able to comment.
     
  3. duffyanneal

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    From what I have seen there really isn't a difference (other than color) between the 700m and 710m. So unless you're waiting for the new color scheme you might as well pick up the 700m.
     
  4. nickspohn

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    Nah, you really have to wait and see. Looks dont mean anything, The XPS Gen 2 and M170 look exactly alike but have a big difference spec wise.
     
  5. Momo26

    Momo26 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Could the site admins here (or to whomever it may concern), at the least answer this simple question: In Your Opinion, from what You and the rest of us have seen/researched and heard, would it be in Our_best_interest to wait for the release of the 710m? (Appose to purchasing 700m Now) ah hem....

    Cheers
     
  6. nickspohn

    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    Well They can't, see, its secrecy and they can only have insight and are held and confidentiality. Meaning, they have a trust with dell and have insight before us public. So sorry...

    Its personal choice in waiting or not. It would be better to wait anyway so you can at least get more info on it, unless you need it really quick.
     
  7. Brian

    Brian Working at 486 Speed NBR Reviewer

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    Like Nick said, we need to protect our intel, but, with Dell's cancellation policy being pretty good, I'd have a very hard time passing on a great deal for a 700m right now.
     
  8. Momo26

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    Hmmm o_O. I think I hear ya, but not loud and clear. What exactly is a cancellation policy when used in this context? Do you mean, when a new, replacement machine is released, the older one will, probably, be taken off the market simotaneously? (Thus the term replacement, but perhaps a company will keep the older product available a little longer due to popular demand).

    Oh ya, and i'm in Canada. We don't really get any significant 'great deals'/coupons on any Dell systems. It's more like 'pay this full price' or 'don't pay this full price'. But hey, just the way it goes I suppose. Anywho, i'm still attracted to this machine nonetheless, and leading competitors (Sony's 13.1" for example) are in most cases even more expensive then the Dell when fully priced.
     
  9. drumfu

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    new one will have an upgraded chipset.
     
  10. Andrew Baxter

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    The wait will be short but as nick said, not too much exciting with the 710m, hardly worth waiting for a deal on.
     
  11. duffyanneal

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    While we can't be certain about the US machines the 710m in other parts of the world are exactly the same as the 700m except for color. The 710m has been available for a week or so overseas.
     
  12. nickspohn

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    There is an upgraded chipset on that computer. I highly doubt dell would make a computer just to change the color.
     
  13. Momo26

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    How will the upgraded chipset boost performance on the 710m? What affect will it have on the machine? We're not talking upgrded processor right? (ie. Dothan to Sonoma)
     
  14. duffyanneal

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    Oh really?
     
  15. Momo26

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    I see that it is same processor, the chipset I believe is not listed. (If it is part of the motherboard I assume).
     
  16. nickspohn

    nickspohn Notebook Virtuoso NBR Reviewer

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    I believe that is the 710-n and i dpubt it is the same. That very well could be the chinas 700m. I think your going to need more proof as the cip set isnt listed.
    Tell me alway why dell is making a new computer just to change the color.
     
  17. duffyanneal

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    I'm surprised as well. I read somewhere that Intel was going to discontinue the Dothan CPU shortly. Dell could be using the new chipset with older CPUs. HP is doing that with some DV1000s. Later on when the CPU supply drys up Dell could start installing the newer CPUs which are pin-pin compatible. Just keep in mind that Dell is trying to cut as many corners as possible.
     
  18. nickspohn

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    Thanks for being calmer now, i totally agree with you on that.
     
  19. Momo26

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    Im lost. Please define: Chipset. How does that differ with processor? I thought Banias was first generation CPU. The 700m isn't atleast using Dothan? I know they are not using Sonoma, and the 710m probably won't either but I didn't know that the CPU was that outdated.

    Thus I am confused. :|
     
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    Your right...got my PM's swapped.
     
  22. Momo26

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    Component wise, looks very similar. Nothing I see different other than color scheme.
     
  23. Andrew Baxter

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    I think there will be a larger hard drive option in addition to the color change too. Either way. Yawn.
     
  24. Momo26

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    Nothing about the size and weight being different? Someone mensioned the new machine has a smaller profile, but not confirmed.

    "Yawn". I take it you were never too impressed by the i700m. But from what you have read/heard [from us and others] which of THOSE TWO machines would you recommend? (i700m vs i710m) [I'm not sure if the chipset will be different and if so, what advantages that would bring].

    I am thinking of purchasing in the not too distant future.
     
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    From what I recall it is supposed to be slightly slimmer, what I'm waiting to see is if they improved the battery life, the 700m is terrible on that and it couldn't possibly get worse so for that reason I'd wait and see how well the 710m can do in that area.

    I was saying yawn because the update is boring. The 700m is a fine machine, it's screen and portability + a built-in optical drive being it's best assets.

    The release of the 710m in the U.S. is like, very imminent. I think a small bird just told me less than 48 hours.
     
  26. Momo26

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    Ya, this Friday. That makes sense. But this Thursday at 11:59pm an okay deal (atleast the best I could find) on the 700m will be expiring. That is why I want to buy a.s.a.p. If I wait out another 48 hours, that 'deal' on the 700m with the specs I like is done. And i'll be waiting over another month for the same deal, as I have waited now.
    Tiss Tiss.
     
  27. Andrew Baxter

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    You could order late tomorrow and then cancel on Friday if you find a better deal on the 710m or it looks more appealing, it's easy to cancel an order with Dell within a day or two of ordering.
     
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    Ya? Hmmm, that's food for thought. Considoring Dell Canada is currently having their 'double your memory Free' deal, the new 710m definately won't have that but probably something useless (to me atleast) like 'upgrade of HDD from 60GB to 80GB'.

    If this new machine is more appealing, as you suggested, than I should probably wait until the 'double your memory for free' comes out WITH this machine. Probably in a month or so, but that should give SOME time for reviews/comments/info on this machine.

    How long is long enough to know a machine's overall value once it has been released on the market? ~ 1 - 2 months?

    And i'm just pondering on the new white keyboard on the arctic silver chasis. I did like the darker keyboard, and marks/dirt are a lot less visible on the black keyboards.
     
  29. LuckMC11

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    what happens if someone that works for dell does know when it will be released and tells people anyway??..what happens to them???
     
  30. Momo26

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    That would be a breach of contract and, if known, would result in the immediate termination of that person (who spoke) as well as potential lawsuits against them.

    Pretty risky stuff :)
     
  31. Andrew Baxter

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    Okay, just heard this morning that the 710m will probably NOT be on the website tomorrow and will definitely not be shipping until after December, possibly not even available to see on the website until after Thanksgiving. Information is kind of conflicting, but seems like they're pushing it back.
     
  32. Momo26

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    ...bloody h[=LL, why. I was getting excited about seeing this machine and ordering soon and now Dell pulls this.

    I shouldn't be surprised.
     
  33. Momo26

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    Oh and by the way, does the current 700m have this chipset: IntelĀ® 855 GME Chipset? On the Dell Taiwan website, the new 710m has THAT chipset so I am wondering if it is an upgrade from the 700m, or maybe the same thing.
     
  34. thecollegekid

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    yes it has the 855 GME chipset. momo, you waited for a long time. i remember when i was researching for the 700.. you were too. you have good patience
     
  35. Momo26

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    Indeed I have been waiting for a while. Actually, I would have purchased the 700m this week (if you can believe it) but I had heard about the 710m's release being very soon (supposed to have been this Friday [today actually]) so I thought i'd check this one out first and decide between the two. I don't mind the white trim on the Inspiron line but I thought that this pure arctic silver may look nice on the 710m, and if it were same price with same components, meh, might as well just get the updated machine.

    But, to my luck, the 710m won't be released just yet (sources say), so the wait goes on. I missed out on a deal on the 700m (won't come around for another month), so we'll just wait and see I suppose, again.

    That's alright, no rush. Better do to extensive research. But this research, which was all nice and a learning experience at the beginning, is quickly becomming a pain in the head ;x.
     
  36. Momo26

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    The chipset isn't even updated?! NOTHING but the color scheme and the thinkness (the 710m being slightly smaller SUPOSIBLY) of this to-be-released-machine is different from it's Mother-notebook (the 700m).

    They could have atleast thrown in Sonoma technology, a standard 5400rpm HDD, better standard battery life and [for goodness sakes, make sure there is no-mic in problem this time] this machine would have been a worth-while update.

    I rant.
     
  37. Rahul

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    Yeah, I am REALLY disappointed in Dell on this one. I have lost my faith in them, I just can't beleive that the 710M has bascially nothing new and its coming over a year after its predecessor was released, what is wrong with you Dell!?!?!? :mad:
     
  38. Andrew Baxter

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    Brian had an email exchange with contacts there yesterday, they don't understand why we care about the 710m update and they're not doing a press release or announcement of any type, so even at Dell they're like really unexcited about the update.
     
  39. jam2

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    Hi, just registered to join this discussion.

    The more I read/research, the clearer it seems to me that the 710m is indeed nothing more than a cosmetic change. There was some talk of a new chipset, but the specs at Dell's international sites look the same. There was some talk of a slightly thinner chassis and while the listed specs are inconsistent (which I think led to this thickness confusion), the side views look identical.

    I'm the kind of person who likes to be 100% sure about a purchase like this, so I'm still tempted to wait for the 710m. I slightly prefer the light keyboard, although the 700m's white trim is growing on me. In fact, I think the trim looks silly on the 710m being that it's the same color, I wish they'd just made the lid flat.

    So, still undecided, but not holding out hope for any functional upgrade in the 710m.
     
  40. Momo26

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    Ya, you'd be right not to hold any hope for the upgrade. But ya, if you've seen the 700m in person, there isn't anything wrong with the classy white trim, and it isn't a 'bumper' either. That white trim and the silver (alteast on 700m - not sure of other Inpirons) is LEVEL with the rest of the silver chasis, so it's fine.

    Ya white keyboard is nice, we'll see how the arctic silver border blends with the rest of the silver on the 710m.

    I guess we have to wait and see, still.
     
  41. Momo26

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    Hahaha, funny to hear the people at Dell aren't even excited about the release. No surprise though. No press release or anything? Hmmm, just a quick swap I suppose. Try to appeal to the 'dynamic silver' laptop crowd now...I guess.
     
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    I just received my 700m from Dell 2 days ago. During the POST screen, it says Dell 700m/710m Series so I was wondering if I have the updated motherboard without the audio problem? I don't have a microphone so I can't test it, yet.
     
  43. rdiver

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    I updated my BIOS at the end of August and it had that too. I haven't used the microphone at all since I got it. Wow, it's been a year already!
     
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    too bad the 710m doesnt run ddr2 memory
     
  45. Momo26

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    Hmm interesting your start up said that. So ya, its obvious everything inside is the same for the two machines, but if you could try out that mic-in anytime in the future, it would be interesting to have a confirmation.