XPS 1530 6800 GT DDR3 versus hp dv5t 9600 GT with DDR2

Hello,

Since the hp dv5t come with a 9600 GT and DDR2 memory,
is the difference really big versus the 6800 GT DDR3 in the XPS 1530.

Cuz I have 2 config at the same price and I like the LED / Warranty on the dell a little better.

But how compare the battery since the dv5t has the centrino 2 and the XPS the LED screen ???

 

First of all, the GPU may or may not make a difference, depending on what games you play.
Since HP only offers a 6-cell (and a "high capacity" 6 cell) battery at the moment, I think the battery life will be worse on the dv5t. This may of course change if HP decides to introduce 12-cell batteries.

 

I am two config with both 6 cell (hp is the 6 cell enhanced so)

XPS 1530
4 gb Ram
Proc T8400
HDD 250
6 cell
8600 GT 256 DDR3
LED screen


Dv5t
4 gb Ram
Proc P8300
HDD 250
6 cell enhanced
9600 GT 512 DDR2
LCD HP bright...

I want to play everything: Sacred 2, COD 4, crysis ...

 

The 9600M GT is better, even with DDR2.

 

The 9600M GT 512MB DDR2 is gonna be about the same as a 8600M GT 256MB GDDR3 in most games. Both score about 4000 (give or take 200 points based on other specs) in 3DMark06.

A few things to take note on:
-The HP DV5T uses the new Centrino 2 "Montieva" platform
-Assuming both have 6 cells, the HP should get slightly better battery life due to the more efficient chipset and cpu.

 

Thanks a lot for the answer.
It's clear the HP is better

 

Yes, overall it is. Dell really needs to update their lineup with the new chipset.

 

Just checked out a DV5t at the BestBuy. Laptop seemed very warm to me.

Every HP I have ever owned seemed rather hot though, so maybe it's just me.

Nice machine outside of that though.

 

is the difference in performance that large between the two?

 

No, it is seriously minimal in terms of graphics card. Processor performance is also not much at all except for added FSB, though its main thing is it has more battery life. Not really much of a performance increase. The 9600GT DDR2 is basically the same power as the 8600M GT DDR3 with only 3-4 FPS better which is not consider at all. I'd wait for calpella. There are also heat problems with the dv5t also.

 

But I cannot wait. So I should go with the fully loaded xps

EDIT

After reading about the dell "fixing" the issue with the graphic card, I ll think I ll take my change with HP.... Thanks nvidia for the mess

 

Yeah, I'm not sure I can wait either. I have to have a laptop by August 23rd. Are they likely to release a new one, and be able to build it and send it to me by then?

 

Go ahead but remember, the Montevina thats out right now is not the complete Montevina. Also remember that the XPS M1530 has been in the market for a very very long time so many of its kinks have been resolved with only minor ones such as Nvidia screwing up of a few gfx cards, though they already have fixed it and at the time of announcement, they have already resolved the issue. Besides, all you have to do is load up Assasins Creed, play it for a few hours, if it doesn't get hot or crash, its fine.

If you go with HP, yes you will have a new computer, but many of the manufacturing kinks may have not been worked out yet and you will be stuck with a potentially flawed product, like the heating issues that have been arising.

Besides, once late August/September rolls out, Montevina gets released fully and HP will update their existing lines with the complete montevina and Dell will come out with Montevina as well. Buying now would be paying the premium for the early adoption, but in this case, it onlytakes 1-2 months for your early adoption tech to be replaced by the same, but fully featured montevina.

Like I've said in other threads, the performance difference between the M1530 and Montevina vs what was between the M1530 and the previous line is really minimal. Its not worth it, the best product to buy is the M1530 now and wait for the next big thing before thinking about buying.

HP is very mainstream and knows that many early adopters will go for whatever new that is out. Dell on the other hand knows that since the complete montevina is coming out in late August to September, theres no point in having to refresh incomplete Montevina lines and it would be less constly and more beneficial to them and consumers to roll out the complete Montevina when it comes out.

 

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. We don't really know the extent of the nVIDIA GPU issue so making statements like that is just, well, foolish.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=273315

Besides, you never know when Nvidia releases an announcement that the 9xxx series have some problems too. Its not foolish when you know what is going on and what Nvidia has done to address it. Yes it would be foolish of me, but... clearly you have not been keeping up with it.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=277510

Besides, you are covered by a 21 day return policy. They have stopped shipping units with faulty gfx chips and its not a bad thing since you can just get a replacement at no additional cost since Dell pays the shipping charges. The fact is its not Dell's fault, but Nvidia's rare mistake. As such my statement still holds.

 

I know you love your M1530, Forte. However, your statements came off as if you brush this matter off as something not so serious while in fact, it is. No potential buyer wants to buy something brand new and expects its component to die due to manufacturing defects and therefore, it is our job as NBR forumers to be as unbiased as possible so they can arrive at an informed decision.

And your argument about the 9xxx series is just weird. Let me ask you if you are a potential laptop buyer, would you buy a laptop with the new GF 9M series or the one with an older 8M series which nVIDIA has confirmed that it MAY be riddled with manufacturing defects? I think the choice is clear enough for me.