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    dell and santa rosa

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by jbannick18, Sep 11, 2007.

  1. jbannick18

    jbannick18 Notebook Consultant

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    Which dell laptops have the new santa rosa processor if any of them do? Thanks
     
  2. n19htmare

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    Correction:
    Santa rosa is not a processor. It's a chipset compatible with Processors that are 800mhz FSB.

    Inspiron, Vostro, all have options for santa rosa chipsets.
    Dell states the FSB, if its 800, it's santa rosa.
     
  3. jbannick18

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    so would my 1520 be santa rosa, im confused lol
     
  4. Khris

    Khris Yes I am better than you!

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    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7500 (4MB cache/2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB), English

    Taking 10 seconds to check the Dell website gives you the answer! ;)
     
  5. odin243

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    To be technical, Santa Rosa is a platform that supports the Crestline chipset with the Socket P Merom (and soon Penryn) processors.
     
  6. PaulJRJ

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    To be anal, you mean. ;)
     
  7. BigBoy92

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    Bahahaha, i like that 1 :D
     
  8. Andy1210

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    Geez, why do we just answer the guys freakin question...

    You will be getting a Santa Rosa processor if you order the T7300 or higher
     
  9. Devedander

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    I think both the 1400 and 1500 have SR chipset don't they?

    I would think an easy way to tell is anything with 800mhz FSB will be SR at the moment.
     
  10. Zero

    Zero The Random Guy

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    Yes, they do have Santa Rosa, but that is only when configured with the Intel wireless card. That means, if you choose the Dell wireless card, it won't technically be Santa Rosa complaint, and therefore won't come with the "Centrino Duo" sticker.
     
  11. Devedander

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    Doesn't Centrino just mean graphics, network and chipset are all Intel made?

    Thus not having Intel wireless would make it not Centrino but shouldn't change the SR chipset right?
     
  12. Zero

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    Centrino means a mobile processor, mobile chipset, and wireless card, all made by Intel, packaged into a notebook. As a result, Santa Rosa means the same thing, because Santa Rosa is just the codename for the most recent version of Centrino.

    As a result, a machine is not fully Santa Rosa compliant. It will still have the processor and chipset from the Santa Rosa platform, but in technical terms, it isn't full Santa Rosa. It makes little difference though, as the performancxe is all the same.
     
  13. Andy1210

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    Semantics... when someone asks whether a processor is 'Santa Rosa', they're referring to the processor. The Inspirons have both the prior gen Intel Core Duo and the Santa Rosa depending on which one you choose.
     
  14. Devedander

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    Interesting... I figured since the only thing that really changed between gens like sonoma, napa and SR was the chipset that was what they were talking about...

    Kinda sad, I thought I had SR (I cheaped out on the wireless) and it was pretty cool since I live in Santa Rosa (the one it's named after)... maybe I will have to buy an intel wireless card just to be proper!
     
  15. Andy1210

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    If you bought one of the T7XXX series with the 800mhz front side bus, you do indeed have a SR chip and can hold your head high as you walk through your hometown!
     
  16. Zero

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    Don't bother buying an Intel wireless card. Santa Rosa is just their to make Intel more money, by making the consumer buy three Intel chips, rather than just one, which would most of the time, be the processor. The performance of Santa Rosa will remain the same, provided ou have an Intel processor and chipset.
     
  17. Devedander

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    Yeah I know, not really going to go that route but it was kind of a bubble burster even if it's only technically! :D
     
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    I don't think that's right. I have a T7300 hundred in my D630, which is of course, "Santa Rosa". Then again, I also have an 800Mhz FSB in my T5470-equipped Vostro 1500, which to my understanding, makes that a Santa Rose, too.
     
  20. fusion2007

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    santa rosa is everything above t7300? i thought it was on only odd numbers though. im i wrong?
     
  21. Lithus

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    In able to be classified as having a Centrino Duo notebook, one must have:
    1. A Core 2 Duo with a 800 MHz FSB
    2. Intel Wireless G or N
    3. Dynamic Acceleration (overclocking one core for single-threaded programs)
    4. Ability to use Turbo Memory
    http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/duo/description.htm
     
  22. odin243

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    A processor does not have to be above T7300, or even have an 800MHz FSB to be on the Santa Rosa platform. Any Socket P processor works.
     
  23. Lithus

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    Not all Socket P's are considered to be in the Santa Rosa platform, some, like the T5450, or T7100, are just considered second generation meroms. But honestly: who cares?
     
  24. odin243

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    Where do you get that from? I though the T7100 was included, along with other oddballs like the low voltage chips.
     
  25. Lithus

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    Check above link. Here, I'll repost it, not much more genuine than this: http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/duo/description.htm

    I also take the Intel retail classes. They pound it into your head to know what's what. And that they're better than everyone else.
     
  26. odin243

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    Unless I'm missing something, that link does not seem to list Centrio Duo/Pro compatible processors.
     
  27. Lithus

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    Third thing under features and benefits: 800 Mhz FSB.
     
  28. odin243

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    That's a feature of the chipset's bus, I don't see where it says that only 800MHz FSB capable processors are included. And even if that was true, it does not rule out the T7100.
     
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    I thought the T7100 is also one of those processors part of the Santa Rosa Series.... But I'm not sure about the T5250 and T5450 though...
     
  30. Lithus

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    how do you know if your chipset can handle a 800mhz proccessor or even if its upgradeble(the proccessor) to the 800mhz version?
     
  33. odin243

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    The Crestline chipset (965 express) can accept any of the socket p processors. You can download CPU-Z and check what chipset and CPU socket you have.
     
  34. fusion2007

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    thanx i will when i get my laptop soon hopefully its an m90
     
  35. odin243

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    The M90 cannot accept 800MHZ processors, I'm sorry. It's on the older 945 chipset, so it can only accept Yonah and first generation Merom processors in Socket M, up to 667MHz FSB.
     
  36. Lithus

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    Doing a little bit more researching, I found this page: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/474. Which apparently relegates our (odin243 and me) debate a pretty moot point. Since Intel decided to recycle the Centrino Duo name, both older Core 2's, along with the newer Santa Rosa Core 2's can both be considered in the Centrino Duo chipset. Thus that makes both of us right, and then some...

    Where I was coming from, is that the newest Centrino Duo line uses 800 MHz FSB Meroms, evidenced in the 965E chipset. But then again, all Meroms are in one form of Centrino Duo or another, and thus you were also right.
     
  37. odin243

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    That's been true since Santa Rosa has been introduced. With Santa Rosa they decided to split the platform into a consumer one (Centrino Duo) and a business one (Centrino Pro), wheres the Napa platform was unified.