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    m1210 hotter after bios a04 update?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by pratap21, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. pratap21

    pratap21 Notebook Consultant

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    I feel the m1210 has become hotter by about 5-10 degrees after the bios a04 update. Anyone feel the same?. Also do anyone have the downgrader?
     
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    gridtalker Notebook Virtuoso

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    I updated bios and the heat is pretty much still the same
     
  3. gohanssjn

    gohanssjn Notebook Evangelist

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    No change here
     
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    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    Mine actually seems to be a little cooler,under light conditions Im in the mid 30
    's,as opposed to the low to mliddle 40's. are you using any prgrams to monitor the temps? It also seems to cool down a lot quicker going from full load to light load. I use I8kfangui and keep my fan on low all the time, and force it to high when gaming or running 3dmark etc
     
  5. pratap21

    pratap21 Notebook Consultant

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    ya i use i8kfangui and nhc to monitor the temps.. mine is ~58degrees just running azureus + wifi. any ideas whats the problem?
     
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    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    How do you run your fans? I dont let dell run mine. I keep mine on low constant, kick it up to high when it breaks 55c. Its a lot of hardware crammed into a small space, antivirus will cause it to heat up quick, it uses a lot of cpu power,+hd usuage, that sounds normal, if it doesnt cool down after that then you might have a problem.

    what kind of surface do you use it on?, I keep mine on an aluminum coolermaster pad, the air intake is right on the bottom so be wary of that, bed, carpet, sofa etc are bad ideas without something flat and rigid underneath
     
  7. Aspyred

    Aspyred Notebook Enthusiast

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    I don't know about you guys, but installing A04 BIOS on my M1210 wasn't as favorable to me as it probably was you. I managed to get sound stuttering over my speakers with the A04 update (though it wasn't as noticeable over headphones) despite the fact Dell says A04 tweaks and improves performance of the M1210's audio.

    Go figure. Going back to A03 fixed it completely, and I have no intention of flashing the BIOS again until Vista (in which Dell purports A04 improves performance).
     
  8. Angrymob

    Angrymob Notebook Consultant NBR Reviewer

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    My M1210 works the same before or after the BIOS update. I don't notice it run any hotter, louder, or the sound stuttering.

    I have been running Windows Vista RC2 as my prime OS pretty much since I got it and I don't see the A04 giving any specific tweaks or improvements (and I doubt a BIOS update can usually do that anyways).
     
  9. pratap21

    pratap21 Notebook Consultant

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    I definetly seem to be having an issue with bios a04 update. Today I downgraded to A03 and the temperatures are down by 5-8 degress C. I will stick to A03 for now
     
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    Mine is new came with A04 bios. I'm in the middle of testing it and quite shocked that when playing HL2 EP1 for the first time, I8kfangui showed CPU peak at 68C, GPU peak at 84C!!?? and the memory also get hot and peak at 63C!!? Is this normal? 84C is way way too hot..
     
  11. Iceman0124

    Iceman0124 More news from nowhere

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    Thats about right for a dedicated card under load in really tight quarters, everything will run significantly hotter than the same components in a modern 14.1 or 15.4 setup. I suggest setting the fans to pop on high when the cpu hits 55 or 60 c, and to go back to low once it has come back to 35 or 40, that helped me a lot, gpu only peaked at 68c after 3 runs of 3dmark 05
     
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    No that aint normal. My GPU temps peak 74C when playin hl2 or css
     
  13. adx

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    I'm thinking to add some AS5 to the CPU and GPU if can. Will it avoid warranty? Any advice or guide out there so I can decrease the temp? Don't really want my lappy to suffer an earlier death.
     
  14. Angrymob

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    adx
    Technically, doing so would void the warranty on almost any notebooks. However, since you are not changing the core specifications of the notebook (i.e. not upgrading to a faster CPU, merely applying new thermal grease on it), Dell wouldn't know and thus I'd say the warranty would stay intact. Afterall, with the few support calls I've ever had with Dell (using the Next Business Day on-site response), the technicians are quite friendly and usually just go on doing their job and they take apart the system in front of you anyways, and they never question if RAM or HDD has been changed (as I like to upgrade my own memory and HDD).

    As far as temperatures go, I think adding AS5 wouldn't really do much. Honestly, semiconductors these days are pretty robust and they can withstand a much higher heat level. For example, Intel rates a Core 2 Duo T7200 (2.00GHz) as having a thermal specification of 100°C (its the same for all of the Core Duos and Core 2 Duos). Even then, assuming it has to run at that temperature all the time, it'll still work for at least 5 years (or its intended design lifetime). On my M1210, I've never seen it go past 82°C or so, that is under a constant load (running Prime 95) and before the fan kicks in. Once the fan starts going, temperature drops back down to around 75°C or so.

    Same goes for the GPU. Under the NVIDIA control panel, I notice the GPU warning/shutdown temperature is set at a rather high 106°C, and even under constant intense load, never breaks past 85°C.

    I think people needs to calm down a bit regarding "high" running temperatures. These are designed to run passively cooled most of the time (to be as quiet as possible) and they will run stable at these higher temperatures inside a notebook computer. Some might argue that these will shorten the lifespan, but, honestly, 3 years down the road I'll be moving onto the next best thing so, a drop from a 10 to 5 year lifetime won't mean too much to most people.