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    please recommend a good bluetooth mouse

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by nnck, Oct 18, 2007.

  1. nnck

    nnck Notebook Enthusiast

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    The bluetooth mouse my Inspiron 1721 came with is having problems:
    430-2350 Dell Bluetooth Travel mouse

    Please recommend a different/better bluetooth mouse for me to try out.
     
  2. HI DesertNM

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    I was going to say, the dell travel mouse is pretty good.. but if you are having issues.. maybe not. I originally had the dell travel mouse but I had to give it up when I canceled my dell system. After I went with HP, Dell would not sell me the dell BT travel mouse separately. So I ended up buying a MS notebook 8000 presenter mouse 8000. A bit expensive but I found one online for 60 dollars. Its better then the dell.. has full 5 button navigation, with a tilting scroll wheel as well.. The bottom of this mouse has presenter buttons for powerpoint, dvd movies etc.. so its two devices in one (also has a laser pointer!). Its portable, good battery life, has a on/off button.. it does it all.. I think MS is, or already has released more mice in this series. You might be able to get this mouse without the presenter buttons for less money.. don't know. But as of last month, the MS 8000 BT presenter mouse was the only full 5 button BT notebook mouse that could compete with dells travel mouse. I think the MS has better tracking as well since its laser and I believe the dell travel mouse is optical. This mouse even comes with a high quality clear clamshell carrying case. It has a BT dongle if you don't have built in BT but will work with the built in BT as well. Its a nice alternative to the dell and definitely higher end.. but more expensive for sure. http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=085
     
  3. nnck

    nnck Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I dont know. The dell travel mouse might be ok. However I am having issues where it is periodically losing connectivity with the lapton after restarting or awakening from sleep. I have tried 2 different dell travel mice with the same results. Makes me suspect that there may be some other issue, but Dell has offered me a discount on another mouse to try. I just need to pick one.

    Unfortunatly, I'm not sure that the MS mouse you linked in your post will be available through Dell. I suspect it's not.
     
  4. Corleone187

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    I honestly wouldn't recommend a BT mouse if you're looking for serious work. BT is unpredictable and cant be trusted by the discriminating mouse connoisseur.

    The usb mouse is always better and never loses a connection.
    I would recommend to you the VX Nano. The receiver is so small that you just leave it in your laptop like its not even there. The mouse is excellent too and the perfect size and Dell sells it.
     
  5. HI DesertNM

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    Yes they do sell it on their accessories page!
     
  6. HI DesertNM

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    Well, the MS presenter mouse has not lost connectivity yet, from sleep or anything else.. its a bit tricky to set up, you need to press the little button on bottom, which is the search mode for the BT to see it. Once I configured it I have not had one issue in over a month. However, I am using a HP dv6500. Also, the MS presenter mouse 8000 is vista certified so that might help.

    Now that I recall, when I had my dell 1420 (only for a few weeks) I did have to reset the Dell BT travel mouse 3 or 4 times in that period. I have a feeling getting the same mouse will not solve the problem. Try the MS one.. i know dell sells it, I saw it on their web site. If you can't find it just call dell replacement parts.. they can order it for you as well.

    As for USB mouses... they are ok, but they have those dongles.. I hate those things sticking out the side. If the MS presenter lost connectivity etc.. I might consider it.. But this MS BT mouse should satisfy even the most discriminating mouse user. The MS BT presenter mouse also includes a BT dongle if you need it.

    The only real con about BT is the power needs. Its worse then I thought.. You can figure as least 30 percent less battery life with BT. It will increase wattage from 8 to around 12 watts. I did not think it was that bad but after some researching, its pretty bad on the power consumption.. But its so convient and nice not have that dongle sticking out.
     
  7. mrg666

    mrg666 Notebook Evangelist

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    I have been using a Microsoft Intellimouse Exporer Bluetooth on my desktop computer. It works much smoother and more reliable than my previous Microsoft USB wireless mouse, especially gaming is more responsive. I have also just ordered Logitech V270 bluetooth mouse for my Vostro 1500. I will let you know how it works when it arrives in a couple of days.
     
  8. ACHlLLES

    ACHlLLES Notebook Virtuoso

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    I use Dell BT mouse which was about 3-40 bucks. I don't have a pic/model number, but it's a black one. Ebay search it - it's quite nice, and works w/ M1330 flawlessly.
     
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    Exactly :)
     
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    cvx5832 Notebook Evangelist

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    Another vote for the MS BT Presenter Mouse 8000. The solid-feeling click is kinda cool too.

    For me it took the Intellipoint software from MS to get it to connect reliably everytime, and I have had no problems ever since.

    Regards,
    Paolo
     
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    I hear what you're saying...I used to have the v270 and it was good and never any problems with lag or sleep but when I would use intense programs that were resource hogs like Adobe Master Suite it would go haywire and out of control and widcomm would shut off and turn on erratically.

    Maybe there was some conflict going on I don't know but after it happened a few times I couldn't take the risk of being embarrassed with mission critical stuff so I had to revert back to the VX Nano but maybe I will try the mouse you have and see how it is
     
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    Hi

    I've heard that the Logitech Silver V270 is a good choice for a bluetooth mouse, and am thinking of picking one up myself nearer to the time when I expect to actually take delivery of my notebook.

    At £25.35 (plus shipping I assume) it's not a cheap mouse, but it looks like a decent bet to me.

    Can't comment on the other mice people have recommended, as I'm not familiar with them

    MrToad
     
  13. Samuel613

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    I like my Dell Travel BT Mouse. See if you can get it from Dell Spare Parts for like $20 - it's black, almost definitely a rebranded Logitech, and has the back and forward buttons on the mouse.
     
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    Black w/ silver lining right?

    Black is covered w/ rubberish covers?

    I guess I got that one from Ebay - I paid 27 bucks shipped.
     
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    Logitech makes a good BT mouse. try it. the V270.
     
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    I ordered the Kensington Si670m Bluetooth Notebook mouse. Looks nice, good reviews on Amazon. Don't have it yet though.
     
  17. HI DesertNM

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    The OP wants something similar to the dell travel mouse. I believe the V270 only has three button navigation. There are not that many notebook BT 5 button mouses on the market. The MS presenter is the only other one I could find other then the Dell travel mouse. I demand having the forward/back buttons. I did try, and try hard to get spare parts at dell to sell me a travel mouse. At that time the only way to get one was to order it with the system. Maybe its on their accessory page by now. I can't understand why they don't sell it separately, it was a decent mouse. I think the MS one is a bit more accurate with the laser and more reliable then the dell. It does allot more with the tilting scroll wheel and presenter buttons.
     
  18. Nalada

    Nalada Notebook Evangelist

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    Funnily enough I bought a Bluetooth mouse yesterday. It was a MSI Star BM100
    I was taken by the nice small size and fact it was rechargeable.

    Big mistake (so far). Looks like it isn't Vista compatible and no driver for Vista available. On my D610 (Windows XP) it is proving very unreliable - frequently losing contact. Basically unusable unless I can figure out a way of fixing it.
     
  19. mrg666

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    I just started using my V270. It works fine without any drivers needed. The buttons and scroll wheel are a little stiffer than my MS Intellimouse Explorer Bluetooth. But there are no disconnections or lag, it has a reliable and accurate bluetooth connection with my both Dell laptops.
     
  20. laptopquestions2007

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    Another vote for the Logitech V270.

    Not the smallest out there, but very solid.

    Works great with my 1420 and 6400.

    -LQ
     
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    Is it me or does it look uncomfy as hell?
     
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    laptopquestions2007 Notebook Consultant

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    well i just recommend that you don't get the v270, it is really inacurrate and hard to use. It feels cheap in the hand, and lacks buttons (maybe you don't want so many buttons cause its a notebook mouse?) .
     
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    Logitech v270 reviews

    More v270 Reviews

    There are LOTS of others who would disagree.

    -LQ
     
  26. Zetto

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    Forget Logitech v270, get Logitech v470 instead. v270 is gonna get phased out anyways.
     
  27. Nalada

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    For what it's worth I got the MSI Mega Net Star BM100 Bluetooth mouse working with Vista / M1330.
    I would like to document how to help other folks - though it is hard to be sure exactly what I did! I am going to post that in a separate message to this one as it will be a bit denser. There is some other info I can give first.

    First - in the hope of find a driver on the Internet I found a number of similar mice which the solution might also apply to. They are listed here together with some differences with respect to the BM100 which uses Bluetooth 1.1, HID 1.0 and is 800 dpi
    MSI BM500 mouse (Bluetooth 2.0, and switchable 800/1600 dpi)
    Acrox/Bluepacket B600 (switchable 1000/2000 dpi)

    I suspect Acrox are the real manufacturers of all these mice. None list Vista compatibility and seem to come with VXD type drivers so I didn't pursue the idea of using any of these drivers.

    In the end I installed it as a HID-compliant mouse using the Microsoft driver. I had to do it manually and went through a lot of dialogs in a circular way to get there. I think the cause could be that it is mis-recognized by Vista as a USB Browser mouse and the wrong driver is installed for it.

    If this mouse stays working I am going to be very happy with it. However, one of the steps I took while sorting out the driver problems was to disable my router wireless and notebook wireless.... I haven't yet tried turning them on again - they cause enough wireless interference to make it as annoying to use as others reported and I was experiencing with my work laptop with XP and a Toshiba stack.

    Another issue I had with it is the rechargeable batteries ran down. Seems they were not really charging. Currently I am running it on two AAA Alkaline batteries (good to know it can take them as one might travel without the charger and need a backup if the rechargeables ran flat).
    I think I am probably just going to need to clean the contacts on the charger - they look a bit tarnished.
    [Another difference between rechargeable mice is the charger. The BM100 has a plug in transformer with the surprisingly high output of 5V 600ma but the cradle indicates it only needs 200ma. The BM100 claims to charge in 4 hours. The other mice listed above probably all come with USB powered charging which is more convenient but I think takes longer to charge them.]
     
  28. Jako

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    I am using Dell BT Travel Mouse (small) and I do not have any problems. It is much better than v270, it is the best BT mouse on the market and it loooks like my vostro, matte black + silver.
     
  29. Nalada

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    Small progress, the BM100 mouse charger cradle doesn't charge.
    Or rather it does - so long as I am touching the positive terminal on the cradle - it seems to be a capacitive effect and I haven't found anything that will stand in for me. (It has the same effect whether the mouse is in the cradle or not so I don't think it is the mouse's fault).

    There are lots of forums like this which are computer related - but does anyone have a suggestion for one more electrically oriented? I was thinking of opening the cradle up and asking for advice on how to fix it or change it's idea of what a full charge consists of.
     
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    The Dell travel mouse is on the assessory page. it's like $40. It says it's for the Precision line, but it also works with the Inspiron.
     
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    As the OP of this thread, I just wanted to update a bit. I got the Microsoft Presenter 8000 mouse based on the recommendations in the thread. So far I have used it for one evening and no problems with loss of connectivity. Honestly, that's not nearly long enough usage to know for sure. I know from experience now that even the Dell BT Travel Mouse I was using could go a day or maybe 2 without losing connectivity. But so far so good.

    I do have a slight problem with the feel of the new Microsoft mouse. It's just a bit smaller and my hand cramps up just a bit when I use it for a while. The left and right buttons dont really have enough 'click' to my liking. It's hard to explain, but it's almost like I dont feel like I'm pressing the buttons fully when I use them and it's just a tad awkward. And the response of the scroll wheel is a bit awkward yet as well. I may get used to these things. I'll give it some more time.
     
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    Finally decided to open the mouse up as I couldn't see myself getting around to returning it. The charging problem turned out to be a pretty easy fix - the soldering of the charging contacts to the circuit board was really badly done but easily fixed. As for the problem of the mouse sometimes disconnecting from the PC... this has only happened on the M1330. On this D610 it is working really well and I am very happy with it - I guess I should look at disabling power-saving for Bluetooth on the M1330 as that may solve the problem there and also cure the 'cpu' (Southbridge?) whine.
     
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    I bought the Microsoft 5000 bluetooth mouse.. it works fine with both Vista and XP Pro, I'm really happy with it :) (44€ in Italy)