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    santa rosa and dell xps m1210?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by terryw, May 18, 2007.

  1. terryw

    terryw Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    Is there any mobo related or other technical limitation keeping Dell from using santa rosa in the M1210?
    I am looking for a small gaming laptop like M1210 with Geforce 8M or mobility Radeon HD 2000 card coupled with santa rosa.

    Is there any reason why this cant be done in the near future? I need to buy a laptop in May or June

    thanks,
     
  2. MYK

    MYK Newbie NBR Reviewer

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    I don't see why not. It should be out soon.
     
  3. phiflyers

    phiflyers Newbie

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    Is ther any word on when Dell Santa Rosa consumer laptops are going to be out?? I am in the market for a new laptop as well and feel like it would be wise to wait until Dell releases some consumer Santa Rosa laptops. What does everyone else think??
     
  4. PhoenixFx

    PhoenixFx Notebook Virtuoso

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    Santa rosa is not just the new Core 2 Duo (800MHz FSB) processor; it is a platform, which also includes a new chipset (965 Express). Current M1210 has 945 express chipset which doesn't support the new processor, therefore it requires a new motherboard.
    I’m sure DELL will come up with a Centrino Pro 12” notebook very soon, hopefully with a Geforce 8 series gfx card. But still no one knows whether they'll call it M1210 or whether they'll use the same design.
     
  5. terryw

    terryw Notebook Consultant

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    something tells me the new version will take a while to come out
     
  6. MelchiorZ

    MelchiorZ Notebook Consultant

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    Santa Rosa will come out when the balance between loss of old inventory cuts into overall sales due to other manufacturers already selling Santa Rosa platforms. There are people who get paid at Dell who tell Dell exactly when to execute the delivery of Santa Rosa dells. Dell is realizing they need better looking laptops, and they are also redisning their Inspirons, which may add to the delay (or not, they could be done with that too).

    So it depends on when they get rid of their old stock and when their new designs are ready.

    Mostly, the M1210, I would surmise, will not get a body update. They will simply stick a new Santa Rosa mobo & CPU into it and call it a M1211 or something.
     
  7. PhoenixFx

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    Yes, I also think they will use the same design, cos DELL has a habit of reusing a design till everyone becomes sick of it. Compared to inspiron, M1210 design is quite new. In fact, it is one of the better looking notebooks by DELL so they won't retire it so soon.
     
  8. s4iscool

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    Well dell just came out with a big discount on new M1210's so it looks like there might be a model change, or at the least santa rosa is coming out very quickly
     
  9. terryw

    terryw Notebook Consultant

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    I hope it come out soon, ive been holding off since last November for dx10 cards and santa rosa, cant wait past june. It dosnt make too much sense for a performance/gaming oriented line to not have the latest video cards for too long.

    My biggest fear is in the event that Dell abandons the 12 inch xps and go to a 14 inch setup like everyone else. the 12 inch form factor + performance is the biggest reason why I'm going with Dell. :(
     
  10. mtor

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    hopefully they will come out by July
     
  11. rbg08

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    That discount on current M1210's has me tempted to buy now. I too have been waiting for a Santa Rosa refresh of the M1210 since March. I better wait a little longer so I don't wish I had the newer technology in a couple months.

    I just wish we had some confirmation that Dell plans to update the M1210 with SR. If they replace it with a 14", I'll be :mad: .
     
  12. gohanssjn

    gohanssjn Notebook Evangelist

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    If they do that, just hit the outlet ASAP and pick one up! The 1210's are great :D
     
  13. PCModifiers

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    I doubt they would replace it with a 14" laptop mainly because the 12" laptop market is pretty big almost all major computer manufactures have a 12" laptop, maybe not all up the m1210 like specs but they have one.
     
  14. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, if you wait, good things always happens :)
     
  15. ejl

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    well...dell is usually the very first to release their notebooks when a new platform comes out. the fact that they haven't released anything as of yet is indicative that they have some major changes in store. i'm looking forward to seeing what changes they will make.
     
  16. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    We've got a lot of changes in technology all at once this time around, so it probably took Dell by surprise or at least taxed their capacity to integrate new technology. They've been dealing with alot...Santa Rosa, DX10, re-enabling XP for orders, getting Vista drivers up, starting programs with Linux, etc, etc...
     
  17. th1€f

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    i wud be happy to have a dell 1210 with SR and 8M as well.. but the thing that bothers me is that on nvidia's website.. dell is missing as a launchpartner for the 8M series.. part of a nda or dell doesnt plan to do any upgrades soon..

    this wait is quite frustrating... :(
     
  18. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    NDAs are usually in abundance around major refreshes. That is who no information is publicly available.

    Good things do come to all who wait...
     
  19. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Dell does tend to exhaust the attractiveness of a design...use the design a little longer...and then change their looks.

    Needless to say, I think the "old" design has already been in the grave for a while. Maybe when Santa Rosa comes out...
     
  20. s4iscool

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    ive already moved on due to dells snail pace on SR. new "ugly" lenovo t61 coming soon.
     
  21. rbg08

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    Even if Dell announced their new SR consumer notebook lineup today, you still couldn't get one with a discrete DX10 GPU until at least mid-June. No manufacturer is shipping the GeForce 8x00M's until at least then. Look at HP: they announced a complete new lineup with the launch on SR, but they have yet to ship one notebook equipped with a discrete DX10 GPU. If you want a good DX10 graphics card, you'll have to wait at least one more month.

    Now if only someone would break their NDA and leek us some info and pics... :p
     
  22. s4iscool

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    good point, but the quado 140M in the T61 will be fine for me, I dont play games, but i do photo editing, and this will be ok. of course, more power is always welcome, but with the T7500, it should move just fine. I realized even if i wait on the "next" m1210, its initial price will be $2000 or more, which Im not going to spend. Moving up to the 14.1" widescreen is a + and -
     
  23. Glickman

    Glickman Notebook Guru

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    Here, I'll leak some info.

    My friend, who is a dell certified systems expert, heard through the dell technician channel that the XPS line should be upgraded to santa rosa by the end of this month.
     
  24. rbg08

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    That would be wonderful if they are at least announced before June. :) I still don't think they will start shipping until at least mid-June, though (unless they stick with Go 7 series GPUs).
     
  25. FrontierDriver284

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    Dell is taking way too long to release new notebooks for the consumer division. I'm ready to buy now, and with what they have out now I'm seriously considering a Sony or some other brand. Dell has always been at the forefront of the notebook market but they've really lost their edge especially in design. It's no wonder their sales are terrible. Wake up please.
     
  26. coriolis

    coriolis Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    With HP leading the pack in terms of design and specs for their new notebooks recently with all their new designed notebooks and impressively high end specs, and with Dell being so quiet, it seems a tad suspicious.

    Perhaps Dell may be upping the ante?
     
  27. Greg

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    I'm sure they are :D
    The release has to be perfect...
     
  28. halligan

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    Thanks for posting that Halligan, I didn't know that! Sounds like a very cool lappy, a slot DVD, Hallelujah! :cool: