vista fresh install difference?

hi was just wondering if a fresh insatll of vista on my laptop would make much of a difference compared to the preinstalled one by dell. ive already removed everything dell preinstalled from mcafee to roxio and dell support rubbish and media direct. however i still get 60 processes at startup and ive disabled all the ones i dont use. is it normal to have 60 processes at startup when not much is installed? or would a fresh install of vista help me out?

 

I get 49 processors on my Vista Ultimate boot up with Nod32 Virus guard and InteliPoint -Microsoft Wireless mouse driver; I haven't manually disabled any of the default System services. IMO you can’t really make that DELL preinstalled OS 100% bloat free no matter how many programs you uninstall, there is always going to be traces left behind. Better do a fresh installation.

 

i think you could be right, i have vista ultimate and avg anti-virus. thats it! and i get 60 processes. its abit too many if you ask me. any other input would be great

 

Hi,

I wouldn't recommend it as long as everything works fine.

You may achieve a little more performance with a clean install, but you may also get problems to get everything back to work as it is supposed to. Read some posts now about people having problems after reinstalling the OS.

I'd just remove everything from the factory install you're sure you don't need.

I guess, it makes hardly any noticeable difference between 50 and 60 processes running.

Greets

 

I'd recommend it just on the fact that it's good to get to know your laptop and all the drivers you need in case one day you do need to format it. If you're not comfortable with formatting, then not necessary.

Clean installs will always speed up your system but the effects are short lived on any windows machine. Eventually it will slow down again. I just like clean installs because you know exactly what's going on your machine and you can gage if you added something that decreased your performance.

 

couldn't agree more, i do prefer to know exactly what is on my computer cos seven now there are some pre installed programs that im not sure about. i think i will give it ago thanks everyone!

 

Clean install ftmfw!

 

How did that get so low? I did a fresh install and I still had/have 6X processes at any given time.

 

i say fresh install. it will take less time than going through and uninstalling dell's garbage anyway. norton takes
FOREVER to uninstall. you can also purge the hard drive of all dell junk.

when you get to the page with drives- erase everything and then reformat. you should be left with ONE clean partition. feels good, don't it? aaahhhh... then partition to your liking and install vista. download the drivers you require, install, and enjoy.

as a footnote- i am a total noob to clean installation. had no problems on my first try.

 

I guess it depends on the technical proficiency of the user, but IMHO a clean install is pretty straight forward and simple. The only issue people seem to be having is with their Bluetooth adaptors not being detected during install. Keep your Bluetooth on BEFORE formatting and everything should be perfect...

I recommend formatting because you get a cleaner OS. It still has MS bloatware, but no OEM bloatware. You also get that degree of control other users are talking about. That can leave you with a far more stable machine than the OEM install variant...

 

I don't know, I guess I don't mind the normal Dell install. After tweaking it a bit, I now have 52 startup processes and my laptop runs quite fast. I don't really see the need for a clean install, except for wasting my excess time and spending hours on something if a driver starts to act up.

Plus, I like to have the Dell recovery partition around so that if I am out on a trip and the laptop suddenly decides to conk off, I have the option of copying my data to the external drive and then just doing a clean restore off the Dell recovery partition.

If you do a clean install, the recovery partition goes away forever.

Eventually, I guess I will do a clean install, whenever my system gets slow and unstable, but right out of the box when its working so well, I won't.

Btw, I am quite comfortable with installing my OSes myself and all my desktop computers have been built by me. I just don't see the point in losing out on functionality and time while suffering possible headaches due to incompatibilities of newer drivers (if you decide to download them).

 

My 2 Cents -

Fresh install all the way. just because it's uninstalled doesn't mean you got everything. Registry entries, program settings, short cuts.. Plenty of traces left behind.

You got the driver disk still right? pop that in, driver problem solved, download new drivers if you are required. Really nothing to it.

If you want even more control, download vLite, copy you're windows install disk on you're drive and stripe and modify it all you want, integrate all the drivers do w.e - then burn it to a disk and you're ready to go.

Vista is a real beyotch when it comes to the amount of processes running.. Computer hardware get ahead to make a difference and Microsoft drags it back down again. Vicious circle.

 

hold on before reinstall. think what is the best way.

do not loose the on HDD recovery option, that is a very usful feature now days. it can be used to restore your system not only from factory instalation but also from your own installation from hdd, providing u have ultimate

 

i don't know why people make it sound like the registry is littered with junk and give the mind image of a junkyard filled to the top with trash.

It's really not like that. I've been playing with the Windows Registry since 10 years and I have made sure its clean. It's really not that hard, and programs like CCleaner and RegCleaner make it even easier.

After installing some of the Dell things, I noticed that they left quite simply, no trace in the registry at all. Take MediaDirect, for example. I got rid of the partition and the Win software and it removed all keys from registry, save 2, which were easy to find.

I don't know, maybe in the US they really fill up your laptop but I did not find too much junk on mine.

Really, your registry is not as littered as you think, unless all you've been doing is installing/uninstalling programs like crazy ever since you got it.

 

well i done my fresh install of vista today. everything went very smoothly and thankfully my number of processes at startup has reduced from 62 to 41 i also kept my recovery partition

 

Nice job with the reinstall. I despise startup processes bogging me down. I currently am down to 48 startup processes on my Vista Ultimate.

 

Registry cleaners are the worst things to use. Ccleaner, regcleaner. Why would i say that? Because after I've used them I've seen extremely noticeable performance drops on my systems. Never again will I use or recommend using them.

There are traces of everything in the registry, you move a file theres logs in the registry, install a program and it leaves small traces of where the file is installed.

It's not littered as one may think - but there is a share of bulk. But Agreed easy to maintain it and keep it clean. (manually)

 

When you speak of a "fresh install" are you talking about installing it from the cds that came from Dell or from "real" Microsoft cds. I have a hard time believing that installing from the Dell cds would make any difference at all. Especially with these Vostros with zero bloatware.

 

well i used the "dell operating system disc" with vista ultimate 32bit on it and as i said i dropped my startup processes by 21.

also regarding the "zero bloatware" i got a mcafee 30 day trial with mine