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    what you need to know about dell 9 cell batteries

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by lordofericstan, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. lordofericstan

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    oh boy...they better have made it better for my vostro
     
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    What the hell are u serious the batteries aren't covered in the warranty??!!??! That's bs....
     
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    Does that mean the 6 cell batts are good for 30-40 minutes after 1 year?
     
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    dell is becoming Apple!!! hardware self destruct after basic warranty ends!!!
     
  7. lordofericstan

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    i would assume so.
     
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    That's totally inaccurate...

    Through NORMAL usage, you lose about 15% per year. If you have EXTREME usage, you can lost UP TO around 40% per year. I know I'm pretty close to an extreme user, and my 9-cell is *just* under the battery life of my 6-cell, so I use my 6-cell now.

    I'd also like to reiterate that this isn't just Dell batteries or anything...all batteries do this...and no company's warranty covers them...
     
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    In my experience, notebook batteries normally lose 20 to 40% of their remaining capacity over a year depending on usage pattern.

    I think you will see that Dell quote the battery life as something like 300 charge cycles. If you recharge your battery every night and use it every day then you can use up those charge cycles within a year. These charge cycles include partial discharge / charge. The 300 is a conservative figure. Unless they have reduced the quality of these batteries, more than 500 charge cycles is a better typical value.

    If you are going to use the battery a lot then include at least one extra battery in your order, when the cost is low. If you get a second battery, use one battery only occasionally then watch how the main battery performs. If you lose at least 40% of the capacity in about 8 months then you might be able to get a replacement.

    John
     
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    Actually, Li-Ion batteries prefer frequent partial charges over full discharges. A "cycle" is a full discharge/recharge, and a partial discharge/recharge only counts as a partial cycle. However, keeping Li-Ion batteries at full charge for prolonged periods accelerates it's aging, so it's a catch-22.

    http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
     
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    Wow, that's a development. I can't help but note that article was created 4/16/2007 and maybe that's a new thing for Dell...
     
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    dc74: Just looking at your sig, how on EARTH did you get a 75% off coupon!?
     
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    ok guys i just did some research:


    my inspiron 6400's 9 cell battery was supposed to have a life span of 500 charges

    let's just say i only take it out 1 hour per day and rest plugged in (but still being drained) it probably comes out to 1-2 charges a day

    so in theory it should be okay to expect it to be thrown out in about a year

    since 9 cell has more capacity i suppose it would last longer than 6 cell since it charges less frequently and has more room for crystals to fill

    so 9 cell is still the better option

    and about warranty, can't really complaint since all batteries degrade overtime
     
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    I'm sure the warranties will be different for different regions. In Canada, batteries are explicitly excluded from the warranty.

    http://www1.ca.dell.com/content/top...n&s=gen&~section=010#limited_warranty_systems
     
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    Yea, batteries are chemical reactions that will degrade over time no matter what you do. It would be best to don't worry about it - sure it may sound unthoughtful, but its meant to be used. I mean, you did buy a notebook and not a desktop, right?

    Battery life is pretty standard, however, it's not all the same. I can comment on that as my notebook used to get 4.5~ hours on a charge. It's been almost 20 months since, and it still lasts a good 4~ hours.

    There is no right way of using a notebook battery, but knowing the basics could potentially help lengthen its lifespan.

    http://www.batteryuniversity.com is a good read.
     
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    Either it was part of some sort of wacky Canadian mystery coupon deal or he gave Micheal Dell a hand job.
     
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    I asked him that too, it was the canadian mystery coupon, but i wouldnt rule out the hj either.