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    ~1680x1050 in a 15"

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by johnsto, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. johnsto

    johnsto Notebook Geek

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    Which current Dell notebooks feature 1680x1050/1600x900 displays?

    Dell seem to insist on using stupid labels like 'HD' to indicate screen resolution rather than the proper terminology ('WSXGA' or even just '1680x1050'), making it really hard to find anything!
     
  2. Sephoroth

    Sephoroth Notebook Evangelist

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    The Studio XPS 16 offers 1600x900 though I'm not sure which (if any) other models do.
     
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    dimodi Notebook Consultant

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    Er.. tbh DELL provide full 1080p HD. 1920x1080 on their 15.6". It's not a stupid label, its the correct label. Full HD.
     
  4. johnsto

    johnsto Notebook Geek

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    But I don't want 'Full HD'. I want 1680x1050 or 1600x900! Hence my original question.
     
  5. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Notebook Geek

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    I find these labels stupid as well, but here:

    HD 1366x768
    HD+ 1600x900
    FHD 1920x1080
     
  6. woofer00

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    1600x900 = HD+, as noted above.
    1680x1050 = WSXGA+

    the W_XGA_ naming convention is quickly being phased out by manufacturers in favor of multimedia naming conventions. If you're more technically inclined, it has to do with the aspect ratios (HD ratios are ~16:9, WXGA and it's ilk are 16:10. 4:3 is mostly dead)

    edit: what technically-inclined folk might call "proper terminology" is what the common consumer, who the manufacturers are targeting, thinks of as "annoying, stupid and overcomplicated because i just want to watch a freaking movie on my laptop."
     
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    codester Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think you'll be able to find 1680x1050 anymore. I originally wanted this resolution as well when I started looking for a new computer over a year ago, but I haven't seen this resolution as an option for a long time.

    I currently have a 1680x1050 screen and I think I'm going to settle for 1920x1080 when I get a new laptop soon. Is anyone able to use 1920x1080 at native resolution, or is everything just way too small? 30 extra pixels vertically doesn't seem like it would make a big difference between the sizes on 1050 and 1080...
     
  8. WildmanCAL

    WildmanCAL Notebook Consultant

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    Finding a laptop with 1680x1050 is difficult, but not impossible. I do not think Dell offers this aspect ration (16x10) any longer and has moved to 16x9 HD panels in their laptops.

    I believe you want to find a notebook which is 15.4" rather than 15.6", as the latter is 16x9 aspect ratio. MSI still makes laptops with these screens and I am unsure if they are LED backlit like most of the 16x9 screens these days (which is one reason I moved to a newer laptop).

    Good luck with your search!
     
  9. allfiredup

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    Dell phased out WSXGA+ (1680x1050) more than two years ago. When they began offering 15.4" WUXGA (1920x1200) displays, they dropped the WSXGA+ and (in some models) they added WXGA+ (1440x900) as the 'in between' option. I know this was the case on the Inspiron 1520 and XPS M1530....

    1600x900 (HD+ or 900p) is a good middle ground between the now standard 1366x768 and 1920x1080 (Full HD or 1080p). The Studio XPS 16 originally had a standard 16" display with basic 1366x768 resolution, the same as a $400 Inspiron 1545! I thought it was a good move on Dell's part to make the standard display 1600x900 with 1920x1080 still available as an upgrade.

    The Studio 1555 originally offered a 1600x900 option, but the 1920x1080 display was only $25 more, so the 900p was dropped. The Inspiron 1545 had a standard 1366x768 and offered 1600x900 as an upgrade, but the new 1564 is only offered with 1366x768.

    1600x900 is easier to find on a 14.0" display, such as the Studio 14z or new Studio 1458. It was offered on the Inspiron 1440 for a while, but not the new 1464. 1600x900 is also the standard resolution for 17.3" displays including the Inspiron 1750/1764 and Vostro 3700.

    One other oddball just came to mind- the 16" Latitude Z600 also has 1600x900 resolution.
     
  10. allfiredup

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    Dell still has several 15.4" models in their business products lines, at least for the moment. The Vostro 1520, Latitude E5500 and E6500 and Precision M4400 are all 16:10 aspect ratio 15.4". All four of those models have WXGA (1280x800) displays standard (LED-backlit on all except the E5500). Also, WXGA+ (1440x900) is optional on all four (CCFL on the 1520 and E5500 and LED on the E6500 and M4400).

    The E6500 is the only one available with anything beyond WXGA+. A WUXGA (1920x1200) CCFL-backlit display is offered as $129 upgrade. The Precision M4400 offered the same WUXGA as the E6500 as well as an RGB-LED version of the WUXGA. But the M4400 is being quickly phased out (the M4500 has already been announced as the replacement) and the WUXGA options are gone.

    The days are numbered for all of these 15.4" 16:10 models, unfortunately. The Vostro 3500 was rolled out last week to replace the 1520 and it has a 15.6" 16:9 display! :( The M4500 has been announced to replace the M4400 and it also has a 16:9 15.6" display. The E6510 will soon replaced the E6500 and will also switch to 16:9...
     
  11. johnsto

    johnsto Notebook Geek

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    Thanks for all your feedback everyone, 1600x900 14" would do nicely!

    Now I've just got to find one that combines that and a decent nVidia card that hasn't been discontinued....
     
  12. TylerW

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    As I've ranted on other posts on this forum, 1366 x768 is a crappy resolution to put on "every" laptop. 15.6" with that resolution is a joke. People do things OTHER than watch movies on laptops.
     
  13. allfiredup

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    Best Buy has a configuration of the Sony VAIO CW that has the high-res display and NVIDIA graphics card. They actually have two models with identical specs but different colors-

    VPCCW27FX/L - Royal Indigo (Purple) - LINK
    VPCCW27FX/B - Black - LINK

    The specs include-

    Intel Core i5-520M
    14.0" HD+ (1600x900) LED display
    512mb NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M

    Both models are currently priced at $979.99 on BB's website. Newegg also has the VPCCW27FX/B (Black) in stock, but it's $1,119.99. BB will charge sales tax (Newegg doesn't in most states) but BB also has a better return policy, too!

    The Dell Studio 14 will be available with the 1600x900 display at some point (it's shown in the tech specs) but it's currently not available. The only discrete graphics cards are from ATI (512mb Radeon HD4530 or 1GB HD5450). They're quite a bit less powerful than the NVIDIA GT 330M in the SONY, which could be a deal-breaker depending on how much graphics power you need... :eek:
     
  14. johnsto

    johnsto Notebook Geek

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    Cheers allfiredup, unfortunately, I forgot to say I'm in the UK, where Sony seem to have killed off the CW series!

    Can't find one anywhere, and the official Sony store shows out of stock for all configurations :(

    My local store only had an i3/1366x768 model... in pink.
     
  15. TylerW

    TylerW Notebook Enthusiast

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    The new Dell Latitude E6410 is now available, and it has 1440 x 900 in a 14.1" screen... thank goodness.
     
  16. Robin24k

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    I agree, when I saw the E6510 with 15.6"...makes ZERO sense to put 16:9 screens in business laptops. :eek:
     
  17. dutnguye

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    yea on my old latitude the resolution is 1440x900
    it's okay not too bad though
     
  18. houou

    houou Notebook Guru

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    It isn't about sense, it's all about the money.

    Also, Lenovo is still offering screens with sane resolutions and aspect ratios (...the quality of the displays however is something else entirely)
     
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    to be honest, after switching from 16:10 to 16:9 myself, its really not that bad as it seems. sure its too wide, but u quickly get used to it, expecially if u have a 1080p or 900p screen. its awesome when watching a HD movie!