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    1080 Ti Unveiled

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Galm, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Galm

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    1080 Ti is officially unveiled by nVidia at a surprisingly almost reasonable cost.

    $699

    Seems to me like this is once again a pretty good deal. Of course, I'll be waiting to see benchmarks, but looks like it'll be easily in striking range of Titan XP if not surpassing. We'll have to see what the cuts to memory bus and ROPs do in the real world.

    CUDA Cores 3584
    Texture Units 224
    ROPs 88
    Core Clock ?
    Boost Clock 1600MHz
    TFLOPs (FMA) 11.5 TFLOPs
    Memory Clock 11Gbps
    Memory Bus Width 352-bit
    VRAM 11GB
    FP64 1/32
    FP16 (Native) 1/64
    INT8 4:1
    TDP 250W (Might be 220W not sure)
    GPU GP102
    Transistor Count 12B
    Die Size 471mm2
    Manufacturing Process TSMC 16nm
    Launch Date 03/2017
    Launch Price $699

    Numbers pasted from Anandtech article here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11172/nvidia-unveils-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-next-week-699

    But confirmed in the NVidia Stream. I'm assuming right now that there is no founders edition as there has been no mention, but will change if that is incorrect.

    Edit: There is a reference but no price premium!
     
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  2. Galm

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    The $699 price is surprising considering that's the MSRP for the GTX 1080 Founder's Edition. Sounds like Nvidia is preparing for retaliation from AMD.

    I'll wait for real-world benchmarks. If the GTX 1080 Ti offers as much performance as Nvidia claims, the price jump from the GTX 1070 to the GTX 1080 Ti might be justifiable, which really wasn't the case for the GTX 1080. It'll be interesting to see what happens to pricing on the GTX 1080 and possibly the GTX 1070.

    Charles
     
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    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-announces-gtx1080-ti.html
    "Interesting is the 352-bit with GDDR5X memory interface, this was not expected."

    TDP-around 220W. The interesting thing will be... What with the NB version? :rolleyes:

    Nvidia lowers GeForce GTX 1080 Price with 100 USD
     
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  5. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Now when all graphics are desktop versions... I see no reason why we will not see 1080TI or something of this size. But what with the cooling in the laptops? For today is the cooling adapted for 1080.
     
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    Your turn EVGA. Hurry up and get some in stock so that i dont have to pay a single penny to Step Up from my 1080 FTW Hybrid :D
     
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    I was pretty shocked at the price to be honest. Was expecting 850-900 for the cards. Do you know if founders edition is a thing? I know there is reference but they didn't mention an elevated price this time. Hopefully AIB will launch at the same time.

    The P870KM1 can easily handle a single 1080 Ti with the vapor chamber. @D2 Ultima can't even get his single 1080 hot.
     
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    Do you think the GT73VR will be able to cool the 1080Ti ?

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    Yeah, but what about the other brand models? The cooling is adapted to what is today. Imagine Razer with 1080Ti as an update :rolleyes:
     
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    OMG, he's gonna do it!!

    Faster than a speeding bullet, the ultimate GeForce...

    1080ti.jpg

    Twitch died just before he delivered, and Youtube died right after :)

    1080ti 11GB frame buffer.jpg

    The Twitch feed has gone offline completely, and Youtube is a studder / delay / stop fest..









    Live Stream content not uploaded yet, but here's a short one Nvidia just posted:


    Nvidia finally uploaded the Live event, but it's worse in quality than the choppy stream was... Starts at 30:30...hopefully Nvidia will fix it soon.




    Pointer from here added:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-374#post-10473230
     
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    Use the Razer Blade Pro to cut the meat and fry it! It's a multipurpose device!

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    This price is legitimately a counter to upcoming Vega. I would even go so far as to say they're scared. Maxwell cards did not drop in MSRP their entire venture, but now the Pascal chips are getting price cuts? 1080 is now LESS in MSRP than the 980 was, even if it took about 9 months. They've given up milking customers blind and are actually poised to fight for market share. If only Vega came out 9 months ago :D

    Real world benches, at least from AIB partners that can actually cool the thing, will have it obliterating Titan X Pascal benchmarks, unless something is extremely wrong with the card on a base level that spec sheets do not produce.

    I don't think the 1070 will get a price drop, and if it does, it won't be much. But it's nice to see cards priced closer to what they should be, for once. Good thing Vega scared them.
    Considering I can pull 198W on each GPU (stock) at 1080p on a very old game (Witcher 2) I can guarantee you 1080Ti is not 225W. It's going to want to pull significantly more than that, and if it's not allowed to by any AIB partner card, then it'll flop. But I somehow feel nVidia is not THAT stupid.

    Dunno. How does it run a 1080? If you use max fans, can an average user hit the high 70s to 80s under any gaming-centric load? If so, then I'm guessing not.

    To be clear, I have not seen single GPU hit 70c.

    Ever.

    This is with the second GPU still turned on, mind you. It's not doing much, but it should still be generating trace amounts of heat. Also the CPU offloads a tad bit of heat onto the GPU heatsink, so account for that too when I say I have yet to see 70c on single GPU.
     
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    Is there a 980 Ti upgrade program? Nvidia mentioned something about that. I would actually be very tempted if they had a decently priced upgrade path to trade in my current gpus. Even 980 Ti sli for one 1080 Ti would be freakin amazing.
     
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    We will see GTX 1080 Ti will be in NB or not in next 10 days, PEX event.....10th March I think.....

    If MSI announce GT73VR with GTX 1080 Ti, I will retire my 6RF without second thought.....
     
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    What we have to hope is that they don't TDP cripple the 1080Ti Notebook. @D2 Ultima

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    Is there a possibility that a NB version may get less VRAM? Or is this nailed? @D2 Ultima
     
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    They may not... but some will. However only the GT73VR and P870DMx/KMx can house the 1080Ti at present. And I don't know if the GT73VR can do it.
    Don't know, sorry.

    I think that's NBC's wishful thinking. I don't think the GT83VR can house it, because while its cooling per GPU is not bad at all from what I remember, it cannot fuse that into a single cooling solution like the GT73VR and P870DMx/KMx can.
    Changing vRAM is a difficult thing to do unless you double it. I don't think they're going to give us a 22GB notebook card if they ever shove it into notebooks.
     
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    Put it this way... I have not forgotten 970 :D
     
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    Great price on that 1080Ti. Should be interesting to see how it performs. I think Brother @Johnksss@iBUYPOWER knows how to rent one. Maybe he can show us as soon as he can get his hands on one.

    I would not look for this to come to notebooks. It might, but I don't know how effectively even the most robust cooling systems could deal with it. If it does, I doubt the price will be acceptable. The price of current 1070 and 1080 notebook GPUs is already beyond ludicrous.

    I suspect this surprise release was a deliberate move to get people to spend their money now, before Vega launches and they still have money to spend. Personally, I'd wait to see who the winner is going to be before biting. I suspect it will be 1080Ti, but we don't know for sure. I hope many people decide to wait, if for no other reason than to let NVIDIA sweat it out and worry about losing market share to Vega. If AMD has any tricks up their sleeves (which not likely) they might have some headroom to adjust their approach. Then NVIDIA will have no choice but to play their voodoo firmware Tarot card and make it stronger than they originally planned to.

    Break out the popcorn, folks. This should be fun to watch.

    @Galm - thanks for sharing.

    970? What's that? Never heard of it.
     
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    You're good to remember. The 1080Ti is a "970" version of the Titan X Pascal, except they cut off the bad memory section instead of haphazardly shoving it on-board and crippling the card.

    I wholeheartedly agree.

    No, always remember when companies deliberately screw consumers over. It's necessary.
     
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    Nor do I think Nvidia has forgotten 970 :D
     
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    I would suspect Nvidia has a lot of pressure to stay on top. I would guess Volta can beat 1080 but not 1080 Ti but idk for sure. The fact that these specs seem so good on paper makes me think they are trying hard to stay above AMD in all situations they can.

    I agree about 1080N prices but the 1070N is pretty good. Less than the 980m so I was happy considering it's twice as good. Slaughters my GT60 with a 980m for less money.
     
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    I hate to splash water on all the excitement, but look at this graphic carefully. Look at the year..."2018"...under the 1080Ti.

    NVIDIA is choosing to leak this now, even though you won't see it shipping for quite a while, to keep people who are thinking AMD from spending their money too fast. Right now, AMD and NVIDIA are at war...but it is a "leak" war until the 1080Ti actually starts shipping. Will it become available in laptops? If at all, only a very few models will be able to handle it...which is fine by me!
    .
     
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    Nice catch :)

    Maybe they are speaking about 5k HDR content in this graphic, the 1080ti is the placeholder:

    1080ti 11GB frame buffer.jpg
     
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    Wait what? The livestream said 1080 Ti is shipping next week. Like he literally said something along the lines of you won't have to wait too long to see it for yourself, and there were like 20 systems demoing it, plus all the reviewers holding the cards. They said they are already in full production ready to go.
     
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    I guess we will just have to wait to see how much is 'leak' by when you can actually have a retail box ship for the desktops. However don't hold your breath waiting to see them in laptops.
     
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    So you don't think it will be nVidia's guest of honor for laptops at PAX?

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    Oh no, no idea if they are coming to mobile. I meant desktop 1080 Tis are definitely coming.

    Aorus X9 has me wondering though.
     
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    Oh, of course they will be...I am just a little skeptical as to when Newegg and Amazon will be putting shipping labels on them. Hey, I have been wrong before...but as Mr. Fox says, get out the popcorn, this is going to be interesting.
     
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    If it does come to laptops, do you expect the release of the 2000 series in September/October, or do you think this is it until Volta?

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    Agreed...they only issue is when those shipping labels will start getting slapped on. I am all for sooner than later...I guess I have been in this business too long to automatically believe all the hype that gets put out there.
     
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    notebook point of view.....

    If we all forget for a second that a laptop lineup can handle GTX 1080 Ti or not and have a look at the calendar...if there will be no announcement of GTX 1080 Ti NB model at PAX then forget it.....there will not be enough window left for any laptop manufacturer to shove it in NB and make good sales.....because in May / June we will see nVidia again on stage in an event and waving GTX 20xx series......
     
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    "But wait, there's more good news for performance enthusiasts. NVIDIA also noted it will be rolling out the new higher speed, premium Micron GDDR5X memory to board partners to update existing GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1060 cards. This will allow NVIDIA's AIB partners to offer even higher overclocked models to take performance up a notch in these product SKUs as well"

    http://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-launches-geforce-gtx-1080-ti#jzUtk2oCSXWjTpdi.99"
     
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    Yeah, us mean old guys always drop rain on the parade. We've been to too many rodeos, bro.

    But, we're also living in some pretty goofy times, with very volatile and unpredictable (mostly undesirable) outcomes. I could drop a few recent examples as bombshells, but I won't derail the thread by doing so.
     
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    Well, I am not supposed to say, but with this industry leaking like a sieve, what I can say is don't hold your breath in 2017.
     
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    Thanks very much man - now to pray that the 1080Ti comes to the GT73VR.

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    I fixed this for yooo :D
     
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    Haha thanks

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    I am wondering if the price cut on GTX 1080 will be reflected in notebooks as well. And any chances of notebook version of GTX 1080/1070 also getting that SKU update?

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    Only hard competition can push down prices on notebook graphics. And if so... Not much. A different segment.
     
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    So it seems those who are in the process of getting a notebook with gtx 1080 need not worry about it. Not sure whether i was hoping to get reduced price on my current order(msi GT73VR) or was feeling greedy to wait for some update to the current lineup. But thats a dilemma i believe all gamers looking for new hardware face all the time.

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    Desktop vs. notebooks hardware is two different worlds. See also this correctly reply http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6-owners-lounge.797128/page-409#post-10473413
     
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    When I built my recent Rig I re used my 980Ti, When EVGA releases the ICX version of this I will jump on the bandwagon. As for my notebook, with 1080p I'm getting satisfactory performance with my 1070 so I''ll wait a year or so to see what develops. I,m getting as much from all your conversations as I am the release announcements.
     
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    It has been great to see Intel and Nvidia shaking like a cold wet dog with these immediate price cuts haha. This is great for us consumers.

    Gosh the 6700K was dropped to $260 for example and this reasonable pricing of $699 for the new card just shows the effect AMD is having on breaking up the monopoly.

    It's also interesting to see the new 1080ti having no commonality than the current 1080, except the number in the name... As we've seen before with ti's.

    Can the GT73VR cool a 1080ti? With max fans yes. So can the 775 on max fans... But only with a proper repaste and good contact. The margin of the tolerance levels will be slim... The 870 with the vapor Chamber is a formula to invite the 1080ti over for dinner.

    Very interesting architecture with the memory eh? I'm curious if Volta will share any of the 1080ti's 'GPU' language...

    One thing is for sure. Regardless if AMD pulls through or not, we (the consumers) have already benefited by the outcome of what Team Red has done to rattle the monopoly.

    Very interesting times... It shall be an exciting one.







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    Well, for one thing there is way too much BGA feces littering the tech landscape. Sometimes an industry (or a culture) needs a hard reset... shake the Etch-A-Sketch and start again... to get things back on track and stop the retarded nonsense. Things have moved too far off center with this crippled filth. It's our fault for allowing it. Yup, hard reset... the sooner the better. Kick the barrel over and fill it with clean water next time. There should be no room for accommodating digi-trash. To everything there is a season.
     
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