1080 Ti Unveiled

Dont "like" that @hmscott !!! This is torture!

 

I was liking the good parts

You've got the new video card, that Acer display is getting fixed, and you are well on the road toward grand gaming

That brand new video card could have been installed when the Acer display was hooked up coincidentally dying, making you wonder if the card broke the display and RMA'ing both of them.

Cheer up! It could be worse!!

 

Can you slum it with a TV for a bit?

 

I could but I only have a 720p LCD, I don't really watch TV...

Nah, I'm gonna wait a bit, it's gonna be worth it.

 

Would be questionably worth it for me, if I hooked it up to my TV I'd have to compete for time on it with the rest of the family, or only use it in the middle of the night.

 

Liquid Metal GPU Power-Mod - 5 Months later?

 

Could it be Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra due possible changes in the LM composition (more liquid aka thinner consistency) as some have seen? @Mr. Fox @TBoneSan @bloodhawk

 

No idea to be honest. I stopped using CLU almost 8 months back. I power modded my friends 1080Ti about 5 months back using Conductonaut, and its perfectly fine.
Also all the people who complained about liquid metal "corroding" their joints, never posted any actual pictures or anything. Even after being asked multiple times.
They would just show up and tell people not do it.
CLU however could definitely be the issue though.

 

Without any evidence, I'd question whether they were even telling the truth. I find it really suspicious that nobody posted images to prove what they were saying. That's the kind of thing one would expect photos being offer automatically/unsolicited if it were true.

 

plug the output cable directly to your brain

 

I don’t think my brain is G-Sync compatible, might be a driver issue though!

I got something way better, I’ll take some pics l8r

 

That's the kind of thing that might make one think the posters don't want the results of their misapplication shown. But that's just me.

 

It's unfortunate that most people aren't schooled in science or lab methodology, and don't take notes or collect forensic evidence of such events, they merely wipe the evidence away and fix the problem and get on with the focus of their work.

Most people don't care about these issues except that it negatively affected them and delayed their pursuits, and may not have even been directly involved in the fixes, only passing on info given to them by the repair technician.

In these cases, most unfortunately, all that's left is verbal sharing of the problem, with nothing to back it up, and they likely don't even care - they've already solved their problem and in their mind they know not to use the product again, end of story.

It's likely the case with most LM disasters, people aren't going to come back and brag about their LM failures, they are going to move on in other directions and speak up in other locations.

The few that do come back with questions, and no forensic evidence of the failure are just going to get brushed off, like now.

 

Not really brushing them off as much as not knowing the accuracy of what they are stating. I know people have had some mishaps from liquid metal, but avoiding it because someone else made a mistake is like throwing the baby out with the bath water. A warning is always good, but nothing to substantiate it tends to diminish the value of a warning. It may have been individual user error, in which case we could learn from their mistake instead of blaming it automatically on the use of liquid metal.

Had der8auer been able to validate the problem with his GPU that has (apparently) been modded longer, it would not be as questionable. The problem with not sharing and having evidence, we don't really know what the people that had a problem did, or whether it was actually the cause of their issue. Maybe a different product, or perhaps different solder or a poor solder job. It's not possible to know.

Clearly, this was an unintended use of the product as well. Not using the product for its intended use because it possibly did something unexpected when used for a purpose for which it was never intended is not a good reason in my own mind to not use the product in the manner for which it was intended (as thermal interface material).

I have not, nor do I intend, to use liquid metal for this purpose. I would prefer to have firmware that works well and eliminates retarded GPU behavior, or do a physical hard mod to the GPU if necessary. I know we all like the idea of an easy fix, but I tend to lean toward skepticism when an easy fix is presented. At best, doing this sort of tweak is kind of chintzy... not a proper solution for an NVIDIA engineering blunder.

 

I agree, when there is photographic evidence it's much easier to see the problem, and I agree it should be made available when making such claims.

But, in reality that is a rare occurrence when someone has the presence of mind to document the findings when their focus and even panic is to get their laptop working again.

They likely think of it afterwards when it's too late, and then even later realize they should share what they saw / experienced.

Even when you are experienced there are situations where the importance of getting things working again and getting people back to productive work takes precedence over taking time out to properly document a problem.

It's far more likely someone already planning on documenting LM application and technique, with a long history of documenting other laptop internal work with video and still photography will capture successful work.

The unsuccessful work, done by amateurs with little experience or history with laptop internals work, will also most likely not be documented with video and still photography.

That's probably why there is a preponderance of well documented successful LM use, and near zero well documented LM failures. We only get word of mouth for the failures.

Maybe we should include setting up a video recording and still photography in step by step instructions? That added pressure to do well on camera might be the extra push needed to encourage careful thoughtful work, for more successful outcomes.

 

There will always exist a few persons out there who never will follow recommendations. Either lack of knowledge or pure stupidity.

 

We all start out as amateurs, but I have to say an amateur tackling something like this as a first venture into modding is pretty ballsy. We might be assuming too much and that person might not be an amateur. If they are, would have to give them props for having more guts than experience, but I'm not sure how I would rate their intelligence level without more information or details of what happened, LOL. Heck, I won't do this and I am not an amateur. I might think about it with a $650 desktop GPU if I can afford to replace it if I make a mistake, but there is no way I am going to play roulette with a stinking $1200 notebook GPU. I tend to get a little bit chicken when that much money is involved. I'm not a rich man, so that's a ton of money to risk on an experiment, and not a disaster that I could recover from financially very easily.

 

When I said amateur, I was trying to indicate a non-professional doing the work for themselves, and certainly not out to document their work for others benefit. Not necessarily a newbie

 

I have done this shunt mod on both , desktop GPU'S and our Clevo MXM GPUs.
It works works great on desktop GPUs if done properly.
MXM GPUs however is a different story. Only increases the headroom a tiny bit.

 

While just as frustrating, that's a lot less cynical than my outlook, I like your better.

 

So I got my Aorus 1080TI.

Just before it arrived, my Acer XB270HU decided to play dead. Waited a month to get it fixed, nothing happened, got my money back

Got an Asus PG348Q, it's a-ma-zing







This little beast + 1080TI = 1 incredibly happy gamer!

Sorry about the lighting, cellphone camera and all...

 

Hey, that's great, I'm glad it all worked out, and congratulations on the new 1080ti+monitor

 

Great setup you got there! I like the idea of that monitor resolution for work & play, and I notice it's also 100Hz which is good, but if it was 144Hz while retaining the same picture quality then that would be ideal for all situations. Your build there looks good too, good job!

 

Yeah the resolution is pretty good. My Acer was a 1440p IPS G-Sync 144Hz panel so it was pretty hard to replace.
This one is also 1440p tall so it didn't take much adjustability. I couldn't go back to a 1080p monitor and although 4K is great for working, I was looking for a compromise to game too.
Color accuracy is very similar to the Acer's. Backlight bleed too, they both aren't perfect regarding that.
I thought the 100Hz would be harder to adapt to but it was quite easy. 60 to 100Hz is already pretty big. Above that we get diminishing returns. From 144 to 100 it didn't bother me a bit.

 

If monitors are important to you, which they are, because you've chosen a good one, I recommend buying a software/hardware calibration tool like Spyder5Pro - I have the Spyder4Pro and it noticeably changes the greyscale & colours for the better, I believe it's payed for itself over & over since I've had it from about 2013 (you can calibrate friends & family's PC's too - hell I even calibrated my TV with it!).

 

Beautiful build. How are temps in that case?

 

CPU is great. With a Corsair H110i it never goes above 70C stock or 75C @ 4.5Ghz It can go even lower as the 2 x Coolermaster Masterfan 140mm are only at 800-1200RPM. They have killer airflow in higher RPMs, very strong too, but are also stupid loud!

The 1080Ti is struggling a bit for air I think. I've got a 200mm fan on it that should provide enough airflow, but the soundcard is right underneath it and it restricts it a fair bit. Still 81C max in OC mode while playing BF1 for more than a hour.

 

A little toasty but decent for such a small case.

 

EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Review

EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid Review
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/evga_gtx_1080_ti_ftw3_hybrid_review/1

 

MSI GTX 1080 Ti Gaming X Trio Review

 

Love this but if someone made AIO GPUs with 240mm or better radiators I'd be so happy.

 

#175 - Galax GTX 1080TI HOF Review, when you want the best of the best!

 

That's a pretty slick looking card. I think I'm still sold on AIO-cooled cards, but still, very nice looking.

 

Watch us cook an egg on an Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti
http://www.pcgamer.com/watch-us-cook-an-egg-on-an-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti/

 

That's definitely enough heat, I've seen people do it at 130F-150F to show that you can do it on a car's dash.

 

Ended up removing that pesky Soundblaster ZXR sound card and the temps for my 1080Ti dropped 10ºC under load! Fantastic!
Replaced the ZXR with a Sennheiser GSX1000 amp and DAC, pretty happy with the sound and the 10C decrease in temps

 

Was it blocking a fan or something?

 

It was right under the 1080Ti. I’ve got a matx board so the GPU was fighting for air, now it’s way better, even the fans work less.
And pci-e soundcards are not really necessary.

 

Agreed. It always seems like the mobo does a decent job by itself and what hits your ears relies more on what is outside the box (like an amp) than inside.

 

Yeah, I don't think you really need a PCIe version of a sound card, I've got a USB soundcard (Asus Xonar U7), and it's a fantastic headphone amp/DAC. I've compared it using my AKG K702 headphones, comparing Xonar U7 vs motherboard sound, and the difference was massive. Motherboard sound sounded really muddy, the dedicated USB soundcard Xonar U7 had far more detail & clarity with the headphones. I wasn't expecting to hear such a difference, so if you've got some good headphones I recommend using a dedicated sound card/DAC, USB or otherwise.

 

Possibly a limitation of the jack itself? Have you ever used USB headphones?

 

I'm not sure what you mean by a limitation of the jack itself, as the headphones are 3mm jack themselves, and they sound great using the USB soundcard. I don't really see the distinction in terms of 'jack limitation' between motherboard sound card -> 3mm jack headphones vs USB sound card -> 3mm jack headphones, as 3mm jack is involved in all situations. There is definitely a sound difference between the two. I've not used USB headphones, and the Xonar U7 doesn't have connection available for USB headphones for any comparative testing.

 

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