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    All about Sub-Zero Powered by Intel Cryo Cooling Technology

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Dr. AMK, Feb 18, 2021.

  1. Dr. AMK

    Dr. AMK Living with Hope

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    MasterLiquid ML360 Sub-Zero Powered by Intel Cryo Cooling Technology


    No Sweat CPU Stress Test with CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML360 SUB-ZERO


     
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    I've seen a lot of people talking about how stupid they think the MasterLiquid ML360 Sub Zero is, but I think this thing is awesome.

    Sure, TEC cooling is not as efficient as phase change, but they neglect to compare the prices of the two solutions. Phase change cooling is extremely expensive, and TEC cooling can get you most of the way to the temps phase change can give you, so from a price/cooling performance standpoint, the MasterLiquid Sub Zero cooler rocks!

    Additionally, this thing is significantly more efficient than traditional TEC cooling. The TEC plate only fires up when needed. So in essence, this is a pimped out AIO water cooler.

    This cooler is definitely worth it since it significantly improves overclocking headroom, and costs much less than phase change cooling.
     
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    Here's some more info for your thread.... :)

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ers-welcome-too.810490/page-969#post-11067573
    "So I ordered and installed the Cooler Master "Cyro" AIO cooler and so far I can't recommend it"

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ers-welcome-too.810490/page-912#post-11057813
    [​IMG]

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ers-welcome-too.810490/page-969#post-11067636
    "Sounds like it is great for benching with unregulated mode but for day to day clocks it is equal at best and subpar when pushed with much more fuss and muss"

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ers-welcome-too.810490/page-911#post-11057746


     
  5. thewizzard1

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    Holy cow, that's expensive!!

    I'd MUCH rather go back to phase change if I had that kind of budget for a CPU (only) cooler, when a full loop is appropriate.

    Also, who is blowing $700 on gaming with a <100W processor?
     
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    I thought this thing was supposed to be $350 on release. When did it become $700?

    I remember reading somewhere that the MasterLiquid ML 360 Sub Zero was supposed to cost $350 upon release. I definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $700 for a CPU cooling solution.
     
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    $350 is FAR more reasonable.
     
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    How does the MasterLiquid ML 360 Sub Zero compare to the EK Quantum Delta TEC? Does anyone know?
     
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    The sub-zero number: Intel Core i9-11900K vs. Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360 Sub-Zero - the impossibility of the dreamed-of possible igorslab | April 3, 2021
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    The Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360 Sub-Zero is of course not a real cryo-cooling for really high loads, that is not specified, but it wants to guarantee temperatures that are so low in the partial load range that the highest possible boost clock rates can be run. That's exactly what I tried to find out in a short test, because gaming in particular usually stays below 125 watts on average. However, that already seems a tad too much, but I'll get to that in a moment. The fact is: such an all-in-one water cooling has a certain rarity value and of course the instinct to play always wins. The price of well over 300 euros is only a side note because it will scare off normal customers anyway.

    Summary and conclusion
    It's a nice technical gimmick, admittedly. With the MasterLiquid ML360 Sub-Zero, Cooler Master has a very unusual product with a high rarity value and extremely good workmanship at the start, but of course that alone does not save such a project. The cryo cooler also does a decent job up to approx. 100 watts, but then the hour comes for normal compact or custom water coolers, because the waste heat from the CPU and the power loss of the thermoelectric cooling element add up. And unfortunately you notice and hear that, of course next to the extremely loud pump.

    Well, what do we learn from it? Advertising and hope for a miracle are one thing, unfortunately reality is another. It was an experiment, nothing more. You can hardly get any practical use here in everyday life, even if Intel might see it differently. It's a shame actually. Yeah, nothing different than what I have already posted from before.
     
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    What a pointless product. I had high hopes on this one. Honestly I don't need 20ºC @100W . My air cooler does like 60ºC @100W and that's ok to me. I was expecting this Cryo Cooler to be good for loads that require over 220W. At this point is just an expensive AIO. Also it won't work with Alder Lake because the socket shape is going to be different.
     
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    Yeah, it's better to just get a phase change cooler instead. While significantly more expensive, they're much more energy efficient and can reach much lower temperatures, therefore drastically increasing your overclocking headroom.
     
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