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    Any suggestions how to install M.2 EVO 850 on old desktop with only PCIe x1

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by ercument dirice, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. ercument dirice

    ercument dirice Newbie

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    Hi,

    I am really sorry to waste your time with my 5 year old desktop but just got a spare M.2 EVO 850 from the laptop upgrade and want to use it on my desktop. Desktop is the HP pavilion HPE 210f and has only PCIe x1 slots. x16 has the video card. I checked a lot online but most of the M.2 adapters are designed for PCIe x16. I have SATA interface and I am looking for a solution to effectively use the M.2. Any suggestions?
     
  2. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    You'll need one of these

    https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-2-5in-Adapter-Converter-SAT32M225/dp/B00ITJ7U20
     
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    ercument dirice Newbie

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    OMG! You made my day. Just one more thing. What will be the approximately speed difference Compared to this '' https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01798WOJ0/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ''
    I am just confused. This one supports both PCIe and SATA. If I would have the x4 slot would I get better speed compared to your suggestion ?

    In addition, can I do copy disk to the M.2 and boot my desktop with it?

    Thanks in advance
     
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  4. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    You're going to potentially take a speed hit with the adapter I showed you but it should still be plenty fast. For all intents and purposes, it will function like a SATA III SSD. The system will see it as a SATA drive. A PCIe card on the other hand may pose problems since the system isn't expecting a hard drive on the PCI bus. I would use the adapter personally. Doubly so if you want to use it as your boot drive.
     
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  5. Mr.Koala

    Mr.Koala Notebook Virtuoso

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    You can install a x4 PCIe adapter on x1 if it physically fits. The missing pins will be ignored.

    But Ethrem's suggestion is more reliable. If you put it on PCIe directly your system probably won't boot from it, or even not recognize it.


    Edit: forgot that both the Evo M2 and the adapter are SATA III, not NVME. Using it as a storage device from the PCIe link will work just fine. It should boot as well but I'm not entirely sure. The SATA 2.5 adapter is still the safer option. It's cheaper and more reliable as well, since there are no logic circuits on that thing, only direct wiring.

    Once you do get it to boot, Win7 won't matter as it will only see a SATA device. A NVME drive would be problematic.
     
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    Support.2@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    In addition to what these guys have said, a PCIe SSD will not work on Windows 7. Not sure what OS you're running but thought I'd just throw that out there.
     
  7. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Similar issue here.. Was looking to get an m.2 SSD for my Asus ROG Impact Mobo which has a U2 slot.. Is there some adapter that allows a M.2 SSD to be used and any good examples?
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    @Ethrem any idea?

    Sent from my LG-H850 using Tapatalk
     
  9. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    https://www.amazon.com/M-2-U-2-SFF-8639-PCIe-Adapter/dp/B015WWT3UI

    Expensive. Honestly I'd find a U.2 drive. ASUS said they chose U.2 because of its ability to handle higher capacity and it's a technology designed for the desktop whereas M.2 was for the laptop. M.2 drives have a tendency to run hot and throttle, something that U.2 drives don't.

    That's the only adapter I could find and the reviewer says that it works well but read his comments. Personally I'd wait for a U.2 drive to drop in the size and price you want.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Thanks I'll have a look at the adapter or will just get a U2 drive if I can find one cheap!!! Which I doubt will happen

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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Right now it's only the Intel 750 drives that are out for it and no, they're not cheap, but since all of the VIII series has U.2, we should start seeing more adoption from other manufacturers. The benefits of the technology outweigh those of M.2
     
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    Intel 750 is too expensive lol.. I think I will wait a bit...

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    That's what I would do. Prices are coming down and storage density is increasing. Just need more U.2 drives.