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    Finally bought my first gaming desktop!!

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Ravern87, Feb 5, 2018.

  1. Ravern87

    Ravern87 Notebook Consultant

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    So ive been bouncing back and forth since mid 2017 on whether to buy a gaming laptop or desktop. I finally decided to go desktop since for the price of a gaming laptop I can get way more for my money with a desktop. And also because the bios in gaming laptops seem to be much more crippled and have alot more issues with all that hardware crammed into a tiny package. I got an 8700k and EVGA ftw3 icx gtx 1080ti and all the bells and whistles. What should i check once it arrives/ download first?? Hwinfo?? Anything else?? Im super excited and cant wait to start gaming on it. Any tips or anything i should look out for would be much appreciated.
     
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    KY_BULLET Notebook Evangelist

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    Congrats on your purchase, sounds like its gonna be a BEAST!

    If you have a link to full system specs, post it here and let us have a look. Is it a pre-build or are you building it yourself?

    I was in the same boat as you, trying to decide whether or not go with a gaming notebook or a desktop. I chose the desktop in my signature and it's been a good choice. Well except for my GPU, it's been a struggle trying to keep the thermals under control but I'm gettjng there on it.

    When you get it, join us on Mr Fox's post at the top of the desktop forum. There's a lot of posts in there with benchmark results Etc Etc...Plus all of us may be able to help you out if you ever need it.
     
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    Ravern87 Notebook Consultant

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    I purchased it as a prebuilt from cyberpowerpc.com but i customized the components to what I wanted.

    CARE1: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+19]
    CARE2: Cooler Master Mastergel Maker CPU-Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+10]
    CAS: IN WIN 805 Mid Tower ATX Gaming Case w/ Tempered Glass on both side Windows [+97] (Black)
    CASUPGRADE: None
    CC: None
    CD: None
    CD2: None
    COOLANT: None
    CPU: Intel(R) Core™ Processor i7-8700K 3.70GHZ 12MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1151 (Coffee Lake)
    CS_FAN: 3x 120mm AZZA Hurricane RGB Fans + RGB Multi-Color 16 color LED interior light strip w/ Remote Controller (Black)
    ENGRAVING: None
    EVGA_POWER: None
    FA_HDD: None
    FAN: NZXT Kraken X62 280mm RGB CPU Liquid Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate - Extreme Cooling Performance [+112] (4 x (Push-Pull) Corsair Air Series AF140 Performance Edition Fan [+56])
    FLASHMEDIA: None
    HD_M2SSD: 500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 3200/1500 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 330/330k [+203] (Single Drive)
    HD_PCIE1X_SSD: None
    HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+52] (Single Drive)
    HDD2: None
    HEADSET: None
    IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    KEYBOARD: None [-5]
    MEMORY: 16GB (8GBx2) RGB Lightning DDR4/2400MHz Memory Module [+195] (GSKILL Trident Z RGB)
    MONITOR: None
    MOPAD: None
    MOTHERBOARD: ASRock Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6 ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, 3 PCIe x16, 3 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe [Intel Optane Ready] [+84]
    MOUSE: Razer DeathAdder Elite - Chroma Multi-Color 16,000 DPI eSPORTS optical Gaming Mouse [+64]
    NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
    OVERCLOCK: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]
    POWERSUPPLY: 850 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply [+77]
    PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring + [Black] Phanteks Premium Extension Cables sleeved set [24Pin MB + 8Pin CPU + 6+2 Pin VGA] [+39]
    RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 12 to 15 Business Days
    SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
    SLI_BRIDGE: None
    SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    SPEAKERS: None
    USBHD: None
    USBX: None
    VIDEO: EVGA GeForce(R) GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING iCX Edition 11GB GDDR5X (Pascal)[VR Ready] [+487] (Single Card)
    VIVE_HEADSET: None
    WARRANTY: PREMIUM WARRANTY: Standard 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]
    WNC: None
    WTV: None
    _PRICE: (+3222)
    _view_: {6C444707-20B2-46E5-8444-76A1E488B674}
    _load_: 2/3/2018 10:53:26 AM
     
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    Ravern87 Notebook Consultant

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    Also for my screen i have a asus 144hz 1080p gaming monitor . Im so excited to get it words cant even describe. I think i made the right choice by going with a desktop instead of laptop.
     
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    Well did it arrive yet? You're going to love gaming on it. 144hz and a 1080 Ti/8700K is a great build that will last you for years to come.
     
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    Not yet but it should be here this week. I guess they are backlogged alot for desktops because i think alot of people arw going prebuilt right now because of how expensive it its to find a gpu right now. I cant wait to get it though its been the longest wait of my liife!
     
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    I notice that you paid a little extra for them to do an overclock for you. If you don't know about overclocking, then I would learn about it & then check the overclock they did for you - there's a good possibility that they ended up using way to much voltage than was necessary to stabalise your overclock, which will increase temperatures and reduce the life of your CPU - if you fine tune the voltage/frequency level yourself you might end up with a higher overclock at a lower voltage which could increase performance, reduce temperatures, and increase the life span of your CPU.

    Congrats on the build, looks good!


    EDIT:
    In your original post you asked what you should check when it arrives. I'd do the following:

    1) Everything there that you asked for & paid for?

    2) Boot up & check temperatures immediately while at idle just to make sure nothing is stupid hot. Yes, HWInfo perfect for checking this.

    3) Run 3DMark Firestrike to check CPU and GPU performance, compare your scores against those achieved by review sites like Guru3d, Toms Hardware, etc for the particular hardware you've got - so for your GPU you could look here (1080ti models not exactly the same):
    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/evga-gtx-1080-ti-ftw3-gaming,review-33918.html
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-x-trio-review,1.html

    4) Have HWInfo Sensors open during your step 3 above to check temperatures are ok. Also have GPUz Sensors open during your testing so you can go back and check what clock rates your GPU has hit during your runs.

    5) Run some extended benchmarks on a loop to check maximum GPU and CPU temperatures to validate that you're happy with the cooling performance. For GPU run Firestrike Graphics Test 1 on a loop for 40 mins while having HWInfo Sensors and GPUz Sensors open. After the test you'd go back & check maximum temperatures and see what clock speed your GPU has settled at (clock speed will decrease as temperatures rise). To check CPU temperatures run wPrime1024 v1.55 as initial check to see temperatures ok, then run some Prime95 for 10-15mins to really stress it to check max temps (some people would disagree about Prime95 saying it's too harsh, and I agree it's too harsh if your CPU is getting into the high 80's and 90's, but hopefully won't get that hot).

    6) Check what kind of a CPU overclock they've given you, find out what the CPU clockspeed and what the Vcore (voltage) in HWInfo Sensors is during a CPU stress test - actually do this as Step #3: you don't want your CPU to be using silly amounts of voltage.
     
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    Ok thanks. My system is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. I cant wait. For hwinfo and the other programs is there once central place to download all of this or different sites? Also when checking ny cpu settings overclock and voltage and stuff like that, is there a program i can download to see all of that? Or i just go into the bios? Sorry but i am a noob so this process will have a learning curve for me. Thanks again.
     
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    HwINFO64 will give you a lot of data you need without even needing to go into the BIOS, but I do recommend you do go into the BIOS on first boot. Check out what voltage and clocks they have applied to the CPU. Then boot up and check things out in HWInfo64 and then run some benchmarks like others have suggested, followed by gaming and productivity work or whatever you plan to use the desktop for.
     
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    Im patiently waiting for the delivery of my desktop...its scheduled to be delivered any time now...this wait is killing me lol.
     
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    Ha, well let us know how it goes. Show us some pics if you like, and let us know what you find out about your impressions, performance scores, overclocking, temperatures, noise, etc.
     
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    Once im up and running could some of you guys help me learn how to properly overclock my cpu on my own? I know alot of you are experts at this lol. Or even point me in the direction of somewhere i can learn more about it?
     
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    Is this the monitor you got with it?

    https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MG248QR/

    If so, your gonna like the 144hz refresh rate with 1ms response time. This is the exact one that I have and (I believe) Mr Fox has.

    Great monitors for an even greater price!

    Good luck with your purchase and get us some pics when you get time.
     
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    In terms of CPU overclocking & stress testing your overclock I used this resource - it's applicable to Skylake which is the 6700K, but a lot is still applicable to your 8700K: http://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-cpus/1570313-skylake-overclocking-guide-statistics.html

    Read up first though on the general theory of overclocking so you understand the basics behind it (if you don't know already). Do a backup of your OS, maybe using Macrium Reflect before you start overclocking, that way if you get any operating system corruption from unstable overclocks you can quickly & easily restore your latest backup without having to do a clean install of the operating system.
     
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    Ok guys im up and running. Ill post pics later when i get a chance. Now im at the hwinfo.com site do i want to download the hwinfo portable or intaller?

    What else shoul i check? Gpu? Download anything else to stress test?
     
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    Just install the portable version, no reason to install another program.
    Have a look in Post #8 of this thread - you asked that question already & I answered.
     
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    Ok last night i downloaded hwinfo, as well as msi afterburner and rivatuner. Also downloaded steam but didnt have time to buy my first game yet. But i set it all up so that ill be able to see the on screen diagnostics when gaming.

    Another question for you guys. I have the 280mm nzxt kraken liquid cpu cooler with 4 fans in a push/pull configuration. Do i need to download that nzxt CAM program to control the rgb of the cpu plate and also if i download CAM will that allow me to control the fan speed on the radiator as well?? If not how can i control fan speed on the 4 radiator fans? Thanks.
     
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    Nice Nice! I just can't convince parents to let me get a desktop with my money :/
     
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    How much did the system cost you?