Intel Hyper Threading, Do Gamers Need It?

I'd love to see a HT i5 come out. But that might eat into i7 sales, so I'm not holding my breath.

 

AMD, our savior ?

 

Yeah, I'd like to see that too - I'd like for their i7 lineup to start using more than 4 cores as standard (say 6 physical cores) (obviously while keeping prices the same as current 4 core i7's) & of course HT on those more than 4 physical cores too. This would give them space in the lineup to allow their i5 lineup to consist of 4 physical cores combined with HT.

 

Also something I won't hold my breath for.

 

That's even better, a 6 core base i7 would be great.

 

I use all 6 cores in BF1.

E5-1650 @4.4GHz & GTX 1070

 

You mean E5-1650? Right?

I have an i7-5820K @ 4.0GHz and GTX 980 Ti and happy as a clam. For video editing it's great. For gaming, great. Waiting to get 1080 Ti. I could run CPU at 4.5GHz but water pump starts to run audible and have to push the voltage a bit more than I'd like. 4GHz runs cool and quiet and perfectly stable at stock voltage.

 

Yes... <facepalm>

$50 for GA-X79--UD3
$99.88 for E5-1650

Runs incredibly well on air at 4.4GHz.

 

I'm just a prima dona when it comes to ambient sound on my desktop. I like it quiet. Most others would say. pfffft, what sound? I'm waiting on the "next best" hexacore with hyper threading CPU, but so far nothing great has come along. I may push the i7-5820K a bit, because I've been doing more video editing and it sucks all 100% of available resources when doing so. Improving video encoding times by 10% or more would be more than welcome.

 

I have an 212 Evo for cooling. The PSU is EVGA G2 1000w and the Fractal Define R5 Blackout case. I can barely hear it running as it's very quiet.

I thought about watercooling. Looked hard at it. This case can take tons of radiators. But cooling is good enough I didn't need it.

@HTWingNut
Get this!
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon E5-1660 v3.html

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-...743592?hash=item237bcacca8:g:VdYAAOSw-0xYcpAC

$885.00 with free shipping.

E5-16xxx have unlocked multipliers. E5-26xx series do not.

 

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the jet engine on my desk.

Kidding, I know where you're coming from, it's nice if you're not actively gaming and don't have a headset on to be able to hear other things going on around you.

 

For a laptop, I get it. It's a confined space, and I'd rather have it more cool than quiet. But on my desktop, if I have this huge honkin' case sitting there I should be able to make it relatively quiet. I mean I can easily bump up the CPU speed, and I have, if I have a long queue of videos to process. Just sometimes I start it at night before I go to bed and my desktop is in my bedroom, and would rather not have a jet engine running next to my head.

 

Yeah, way easier to silence a desktop than a laptop.

 

So when saving money and building a mobile small gaming mini/micro ATX machine, it's pointless to go for the i7... from my perspective that is

 

Just because your building small doesn't mean your necessarily trying to save money....

 

That is why I wrote from my perspective and why I used "when" in that specific way in my sentence.

I am trying to undertake a somewhat challenging task - emptying and hollowing my OG Xbox to fit a micro ATX build inside - being a student who has a moneysink apartment, makes it a bit harder to buy expensive

 

That's a cool Idea! you going to do a build log or post some pic's of the project on this site?

 

Seconding the request for build pics. Sounds like a fun project!

 

Yes I will!

I still have to upload my repaste etc for my current MSI, but the Xbox revival will be a giant project with a thread to cover it all with help from the forums ofc

The Xbox mods I've seen are great, one guy went absolutely overboard and made a HTPC out of one, but it was 7 years ago or so, so the hardware was limited - a second one completely revamped the whole thing, but used professional tools up towards the 4000$ mark, the whole room was a giant toolbox.

A few remaining Xbox mods really didn't do a good job, they tried to keep the same original feeling, but the lack of hardware and planning on their side made the project(s) seem a bit.... underachieving.


My plan is to sketchup the whole thing, with all the measurements, maximum power p $/£/€ for a certain realistic budget.

currently saving up bit by bit

 

Maybe it will inspire me, I've got an old 360 shell laying around somewhere.

 

Watch Dogs 2 CPU Benchmark - When an i7 Matters

Published on Feb 20, 2017
Our CPU benchmark of Watch Dogs 2 provides useful insight to the game's multithreaded tendencies as we launch into benchmarking of new CPUs, like the eventual Ryzen coverage & Intel Pentium benchmarks.

WD2 CPU benchmark article:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2808-watch-dogs-2-cpu-benchmark-thread-intensive-game

Previous performance optimization guide:

CPU Graphics Optimization Guide for Watch Dogs 2

Published on Jan 30, 2017
This content piece tests individual graphics settings in Watch Dogs 2 to reduce CPU bottle-necking.

Article:
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/2785-watch-dogs-2-cpu-settings-optimization-guide

 

And where in the the landscape do you think you will find [email protected] or even worse [email protected] ?

 

I put the Nexus Watch Dog CPU videos up for the upcoming Intel vs Ryzen desktop CPU comparisons, not laptop parts; note we are in the Desktop Hardware Forum.

This is preparation for the AMD Ryzen release, Nexus will come out with another Watch Dogs 2 video with all the new Ryzen CPU Sku's.

 

Ryzen R7 official specs announced...

• R7 1800X (8C/16T), 3.6-4.0 GHz - $499
• R7 1800 (8C/16T), 3.6-3.8 GHz - $399
• R7 1700 (8C/16T), 3.0-3.7 GHz - $329
• R5 (6C/?T) and R3 (4C/?T) coming later this year

I don't know if I need hyper threading, but I sure as hell want it . I wonder what Intel will do in response. Weather the storm? Cut prices? Rush Cofffelake?

More info:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-1700-1700x-1800x,33702.html

 

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They will do nothing, because they don't have to yet. Ryzen is an infant in a world dominated by middle aged Intel technology. There will be lots of growing pains, as we've already seen by its meager overclocking ability and less than stellar 1080p gaming performance. I'm not saying that it won't get better, but for now, Intel can sit and wait. You can still buy an i7-7700k for ~$400 that will easily compete with the R7 1700x at a similar price point. However for heavy multi-threaded tasks like rendering and encoding the AMD can dominate due to it having so many more cores.

 

The only issue with Ryzen is that it is not optimised for gaming as of yet.

Have you seen every other benchmark? How efficiently all those cores render high quality videos? Absolutely insane.

They have a golden child on their hands, and if that architecture can move into the server world, they will make tons of money. Intel has to step up their game, and they are trying.

Several resellers in Europe have lowered their prices on Intel CPU's right now! Ryzen builds are being marketed heavily and already sold out (at least in a few places in Scandinavia).

I will, without a doubt, when the opportunity shows, buy a desktop and laptop AMD machine. All those cores, make a massive difference, at least for me.

 

I have a feeling that dominating in the workstation / rendering department will be more important than we realize. Gaming is great but the dollars coming in from the likely business/enterprise market for that sort of cost to performance advantage are going to likely affect all areas going forward.

 

This is true. I guess I was thinking more from a gaming perspective. I'd be happy to get one for rendering alone. I've been doing more fun video work on the side and even my i7-5820K @ 4GHz with 6 cores w/hyperthreading I wish would move faster.

I'm glad to see AMD back in the game and glad to give them another chance. Hoping they an come out with a Nvidia Volta killer too. Would be nice to have a full AMD system again.

 

A Volta killer? Now we're just crazy talking here.