My ORIGIN PC MILLENIUM Review

Manufacturer: ORIGIN PC
Model: MILLENNIUM
Computer Name: PREDATOR

Specifications:

Motherboard: ASUS X-99 Deluxe
CPU: Core i7 5930K @ 4.5 GHz (using GELID Extreme Thermal Compound)
RAM: 64 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 2400MHz
Graphics: 2x EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti SLI 6 GB GDDR5 RAM
Storage: Intel 750 1.2 TB PCIe SSD + SanDisk Extreme PRO 256GB SSD + 2x SanDisk Extreme PRO 960 GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 4 TB 7200 RPM HDD + WD Red 6 TB 5400 RPM HDD
Optical Drives: 2x LG WH16NS40 Blu-ray Disc Rewriter
Monitor: ASUS ROG Swift PG278Q 27" G-SYNC
Power Supply: Corsair AX1500i
System Cooling: ORIGIN FROSTBYTE 360 Sealed Liquid Cooling System
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Core Gaming Mouse
OS: Windows 7 Pro

Price as configured: USD $9000

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Lighting Effects in Action:



Benchmarks:

3DMark:

GeForce GTX 980 Ti SLI (353.62) [W10]




3DMark11:

GeForce GTX 980 SLI (353.62) [W10]




PassMark Performance Test:

ORIGIN PC MILLENIUM @ 4.4 GHz [W7]



AS SSD Benchmark:

Intel 750 1.2TB PCIe SSD using IRST 13.1.0.1058 [W7]



CrystalDiskMark:

Intel 750 1.2TB PCIe SSD using IRST 13.1.0.1058 [W7]




Review:

I received the PC 2 days earlier than expected and whilst I was always in the dark not being constantly update regarding the status of my PC build, when I did email my account manager she responded in less than 24 hours to tell me the status.

The packaging as you can see from the screenshots above was very neat and well protected. In addition to the wooden crater that the PC was placed in, it had air foam inside the case to protect all the components from damage and the PC arrived from the USA to Dubai in mint condition.

The case is what really made me buy this PC, it is the best looking case I have yet to see with beautiful remote controlled LED lighting that can be set to any color or effect you want or even have a nice strobe effect similar to the ones you see in a night club

Additionally, the case has a 5 drive hot swappable bay so you pull out one of the trays and plug in any 3.5" HDD in it and you can easily increase your storage without even needing to open the case.

The PC build, cable management, cooling, is of top quality and makes this PC worth every penny I spent on it.

This is similar to what the old Alienware was that now DELL has buried under the dust.
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Superb Tech Support unlike any other company I've dealt with:

Their 24/7 customer service is top notch with people who actually know what they are talking about and the surprise comes that once you buy an ORIGIN PC, the support is a lifetime support (as long as you upgrade your PC components through them obviously).

I originally ordered my Origin PC Millennium with a Sound Blaster Zx sound card not knowing that would make the first GPU run @ x8 PCIe speed whilst the second one was running at the full x16 speed so I had to remove the Sound Blaster Zx and just use the build in Realtek Audio which is actually very decent for built-in audio.

The problem is, now when I plug in my headphones to the front audio jacks on the front top of the case, nothing happens and I am a n00bie as the last PC I built was almost 15 years agol

I tried calling Origin PC's support with little hope that a person on the other side of the world can help me with such a complicated issue.

I spoke to a very professional and patient tech support agent who knew what he was doing. He took a photo of where the cable is located from another Origin PC Millennium system that he had lying around and sent me the image via e-mail whilst cointinuing to guide me over the phone of what to do then he took another screenshot of the location of where I should plug it in the motherboard. It was the HD Audio cable that was previously connected to the Sound Blaster Zx which I now had to connect to the motherboard near the small power button on the motherboard itself. I connected it and got my front panel audio outlets working again! He stayed with me on the phone for around 20 mins and got the issue sorted from the first call! Top notch service!

@Mr. Fox @Papusan

 

Beautiful machine. Congrats, bro. Thanks for sharing.

 

Thank you bro, I can't wait till you get your next desktop so we can play the benchmarks game together

PS: The issue with my low 3DMark score before was because....

I have ordered the Sound Blaster Zx Sound Card with my computer, it appears that if you connect that sound card to PCIe port 5, the first GPU runs @ 8x and the 2nd GPU runs @ 16X

Removing the sound card made both run @ PCIe 16X speeds solving the issue and increasing my other graphics benchmarks slightly as well but not as much as it did for Ice Storm.

I also tried removing the Intel 750 PCIe SSD but that didn't change the fact that the first GPU ran @ 8x only so I removed the Sound Card for now and am using the on board Audio which was surprisingly good.

 

Congrats on yer new PC! Enjoy

 

Thanks a lot bro.

Glad this forum has people who appreciate high end stuff.

The first thing others comment on other forums is: "you could have built it yourself for cheaper" I appreciate your comment. I think in this community we understand that some people like me like to buy things ready made for a start then be able to upgrade them as they wish in the future which is exactly why a person would buy an over priced Alienware, same concept applies here

Cheers

 

Well, I would personally never spend so much money on a PC, even if I had a possibility to do so, and most definitely would build one myself. I was actually among the people who suggested you to build it yourself.
That being said, the decision what to buy is up to you and you've made it. It's clear that you are enjoying your new system, and in the end that's what really matters.

 

Yeah, I would have built it myself just for fun, but that's really irrelevant. What is relevant is that the sucker is a beast. I would have built something similar, and it would have still cost an arm and a leg to build... probably would not save a ton of money as a DIY project because the parts generally cost end users more than they cost an OEM, even when you do a lot of searching for great deals. Shipping (unless you can get all of the parts shipped for free) can eat up some of the savings, plus you are dealing with separate warranties on individual components rather than a OEM's warranty covering the entire machine. We expect the OEMs are in business for profit... after all, they are not running a charity. And, they deserve to make a profit.

Bottom line is, how you got and and how much it cost should not be relevant. Often (not always) the people that are overly critical and make a big production about price are either trolls looking to generate strife or just jealous and have a problem with people that have the financial means that they do not. Being overly critical about others spending their money helps them feel better for some sick reason.

 

Awesome, your firestrike score is right in line with mine, I get about 19.5 to 20k on average.

 

I assume you should get about 5 to 10% higher score than me bro, we are also clocked at the same CPU speed @ 4.4 GHz if you're running stock, unless those 2 extra cores and/or the extra PCI lanes (40 PCI lanes) on the 5930K make a small difference??

Either way, if you're getting in the 20K range, that means you can play any game at max settings / 1440p resolution with a constant 120++ FPS

 

Not so much with Fire Strike. The overall score doesn't give appropriate weighting to physics performance. You would see a much wider gap with 3DMark 11 and Vantage because they do not ignore physics performance when calculating the overall score to the degree that Fire Strike does. If you look at the Fire Strike physics score and ignore the overall score, you might notice more difference there. It's unfortunate it does not have the same impact on the overall score. Because it does not, you cannot take the Fire Strike overall score on face value as being an accurate reflection of a machine's overall beast mojo. The Fire Strike overall score is mostly a reflection of GPU performance. You can have a comparatively impotent system with a dual core or quad core CPU appear to be far more potent than it actually is if you don't take time to examine the Fire Strike physics score. (This is why Fire Strike scores look so impressive on MSI Titan laptops with 980M SLI even though they have a fairly wimpy BGA CPU.)

 

Word, it's an insane computer and I wish I could carry it with me everywhere. Alas, I have not even been able to use it for a full month at this point

 

Well, I never use mine out of the house, when I had my Alienware 18, I never needed to take it out but I do like the idea of being able to move it if I needed to. Like a few months ago I went to Turkey for a small vacation and I took my AW18 along. The beauty of having a desktop replacement laptop.
I never owned a desktop since 15 years after moving completely to laptops but now that there is not a single laptop that interests me, I bought this desktop and am willing to exchange the portability for having a beat of a laptop. Maybe a few months down the line if I am able to find some cash, I'll buy me a small ultra book just for portability.

Thank you Dell for ending the mobile gamer/power users' dream with your BGA throttling garbage!

 

Matrix Leader, congratulations, and nice cats you got there! Out of curiosity - why 2x BD drives?

 

Congratulations on your new toy man.

I'm tempted to get one of those
Intel 750 drives. But my wallet said 'no'.
Planning on putting the TI's under any water ?

 

Beast of a machine, congrats

 

By all means, don't, save that money.

This drive is only good in benchmarks. Boot time is exactly like a freakin' HDD. All it does great is high sequential numbers, unless you are planning to copy 100s of GB of DATA from one partition to the other on that same SSD, then any low end SSD is better than this. This is a real user review non of those lying inflated reviews you see online.

I'm not the only one, my friend has the 400GB version of it and he shares the same opinion. It just doesn't feel like an SSD.

We are eagerly awaiting an update from Intel for the NVme driver since more than a month to fix the slow boot issue with no luck.

 

That is one beast of a PC. But the first question must be, what type of cat do you have with such a bushy tail at the end, but only at the end? The one walking in the first picture, that is. I've seen cats with bushy tails, and ones without, but never quite like that. +rep for including cats in the pictures.

Did you know about the SSD slowness prior to buying it? Spec-wise it looks like it should be fast; it's curious that it isn't. Are you using the SanDisks as boot drives in the meantime? Still beastly to have gigabytes of SSD storage and over 13 GB of storage overall. 64 GB of RAM, too - have you managed to use the majority of it at once?

 

As for the cats, I have 9 persian cats, the one with the lion like tail was trimmed and the trimmer gave her this cute tail to look like a baby cub

As for the SSD, no I am using the SanDisk Extreme Pro SSDs for data storage only where I place my software installation files and drivers, I'm using the Intel 750 PCIe SSD as the OS drive and with a second partition on it for the games installation folder until Intel releases a new driver. With Windows 10 the slow boot is greatly improved though.

As for the RAM, I have 50 GB free most of the time, why did I get 64 GB then? because when I buy something, be it a PC, mobile phone, TV, car, I have to get the full options max I can squeeze into it. I like to always have the best, it's a sickness, an expensive one.

95% of what I do on this beast machine is surf the web and forums

Rest 3% is playing benchmarks, 1% watching movies, and 1% playing games. Please don't shoot me

 

'Beastly' is a great way to describe this monster you bought; congratulations. I'm glad to see Origin is successful - I met their founders at E3 a couple of years ago, very cool and determined folks.

Charles

 

Matrix_Leader. That machine is pretty epic! glad it has turned up now.

My SM951 is rapid but to be honest Boot up times are hardly any faster than a Normal SSD.

 

I am desperately checking for an NVMe driver update multiple times a day hoping that a new driver may unleash the true performance of this Intel 750

PS: our CPUs are overclocked equally @ 4.4 GHz

I overclocked the two 980 Ti GPUs by 150 MHz on the core and 250 MHz for the memory too

 

Slow boot time is normal under Win 7, as I've mentioned before.



I don't think Win 7 was ever designed with NVMe in mind (it was barely designed with SSDs in mind lol), so I wouldn't hold my breath for a miracle NVMe driver on Win7 anytime soon. (or perhaps ever, I mean look at the hoops TechPowerUp had to jump through just to make 750 bootable under Win 7

Remember Win 7 "mainstream support" ended half a year ago, so Win 10 might be the way to go if you really want the full benefits of NVMe.

 

Does your BIOS support NVMe boot?

 

yes sir

 

I am running Windows 8.1.

I have backed mine off to 4.4ghz I was running 4.5. BUt to be honest the little bit extra performance isn't needed so a little bit longer life I am happy with.

my 980ti is already overclockeed to 1125mhz / 7000mhz though it will do 1227mhz / 8000mhz with a 0.27mv increase

 

I've recently gone back from 4.5 to 4.4 due to slight instability. Gotta do some more tweaking.

 

I find 4.4 to be the sweet spot if you want to run it 24/7. Just making it through a few benchmarks and stress tests is sometimes not enough. For a 100 MHz extra, I wouldn't risk it.

What voltage are you running?

I am using an offset voltage of 0.250V bringing the current voltage to 1.273V

 

Windows 7 is not optimized for NVME. Even though the synthetic benchmarks are good my raid0 Intel 730's boot up win 7 from splash screen in about 5 seconds and I'm several seconds like 10-15 faster into a battlefield 4 map over my 750 NVME drive. I have no plans for windows 8 or 10 anytime soon so I'll stick with my raid ssd's for now.

 

I am using adaptive voltage and set max turbo voltage to 1.3v though it will pass Aida stress test at 1.275v

I have my cache set at max ratio of 35. ram at 2666mhz 1.2v

 

ah I didn't touch the cache ratio it's on Auto

 

Which is a shame really, since Windows 7 still seems to be the best windows by far in recent times. Hopefully by the time Skylake-E rolls out in 12-16 months Win 10 will be tolerable. Yes my expectations really are that low.

 

LOL, mine are also. I actually just started using windows 7 over xp just over a year ago...

 

I can only go as high as x35 on my cache even with extra volatge. Gives me a a few extra points in XTU but other than that I get nothing special

 

I am scared to mess with the cache because the first time I tried stupid me I put a 44X Cache Ratio and my system hard locked and wouldn't boot for a while then the fail safe settings kicked in and reset the cache back to default.

 

If you want to OC cache you will also need to up the cache voltage.

Getting a stable 1:1 core:cache is very difficult actually, and may even lead to negative scaling. (click "Ring Bus Doesn't Matter [Evidence])

 

I originally ordered my Origin PC Millennium with a Sound Blaster Zx sound card not knowing that would make the first GPU run @ x8 PCIe speed whilst the second one was running at the full x16 speed so I had to remove the Sound Blaster Zx and just use the build in Realtek Audio which is actually very decent for built-in audio.

The problem is, now when I plug in my headphones to the front audio jacks on the front top of the case, nothing happens and I am a n00bie as the last PC I built was almost 15 years agol

I tried calling Origin PC's support with little hope that a person on the other side of the world can help me with such a complicated issue.

I spoke to a very professional and patient tech support agent who knew what he was doing. He took a photo of where the cable is located from another Origin PC Millennium system that he had lying around and sent me the image via e-mail whilst cointinuing to guide me over the phone of what to do then he took another screenshot of the location of where I should plug it in the motherboard. It was the HD Audio cable that was previously connected to the Sound Blaster Zx which I now had to connect to the motherboard near the small power button on the motherboard itself. I connected it and got my front panel audio outlets working again! He stayed with me on the phone for around 20 mins and got the issue sorted from the first call! Top notch service!

 

right but I have no idea, what is a good and safe ratio to start with? and what should I set my voltage offset to be for the Cache?

 

I suggest leaving it at stock tbh, unless you're really that bored.

 

not bore, if it's not worth it then I don't wanna mess up a perfectly stable overclock.

 

It's not worth it. I could get my 4900MQ perfectly happy at 4.2GHz on all 4 cores with cache @ 4.0, but bump cache by even 100MHz and I instantly crash when trying to encode.

 

Rep added, thank you bro

 

I agree although mine goes to x35, no matter how much voltage I throw at it, it wont go any higher and just locks up.

I only did it to see if it made a difference and that difference was so small it was pointless.

Seeing as you have removed your Zx, why don't you get yourself a decent set of speakers like some Ruark MR1's and a DAC like a NAD 1050 or 3020. Will give a healthy shot it in the arm to your audio and it runs off USB so no need to worry about those PCI-E lanes

 

Don't plug your headphones into the audio ports on the case, plug them directly into the motherboard. Why would you do that when you have a nice shielded and PCB separated onboard audio solution like the X99 Deluxe has. The cable connecting the case audio ports to the mobo is picking up all the electrical noise inside the machine.

 

For now I am using a cheap F&D A530U 2.1 speakers that I got for $30 USD until I can afford some better speakers. This Origin PC Millennium drilled a big whole in my pocket Even though they are cheap they are super loud and even have a remote control

 

Great advice as always! Rep added!

PS: you were totally right about the built in Audio being decent, I don't miss my Creative Sound Blaster Zx at all nor do I miss the Creative bloatware

 

Hawk it on eBay now

 

No me sending anything from Dubai to would cost me a minimum of 100 USD it's not worth it

I'll just keep it hoping that when the Skyflake motheboards are released I can make use of it and not cripple my GPU PCIe speeds like with this one.

Funny I bought the X-99 Deluxe over the Rampage V extreme because it is advertised to offer full PCIe speeds across all ports but that was not the case. When the sound card is connected, the first GPU drops down to x8 speed while the second one remains @ x16 so the performance was lower by a good 25%

 

Just connect HD Audio cable to mobo and you'll be golden

 

Always read the fine print. I bet there's something buried down there somewhere.
That being said, does it really matter? I know that after investing so much you would expect everything to be tip-top, but x16/x8 shouldn't be that far away from x16/x16. I never heard of that 25% decrease you mentioned above.
Also, why is your first PCIE port grey while the others are black? That looks a bit suspicious to me.

 

yup that was it