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https://hwbot.org/submission/4163964_ | https://www.3dmark.com/vrpbr/58846

 

Just checking... still good.

 

A few runs to see if 5.5 ghz nets better than 28.6K...

5.4 Ghz

5.4ghz

 

Stock very near 2105cb

48x


https://hwbot.org/submission/4164109_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i9_9900k_2182_cb?recalculate=true

https://hwbot.org/submission/416410...5_core_i9_9900k_23.64_points?recalculate=true

 

Okay. You are cracking me up with that line!
"Very near 2105"
What's wrong with 2104?

 

Because more is better

 

That's a big 10/4 negative bro! That only works if you were at 2099.

 

You're correct sir

 

Computex 2019 | MSI GT76 Titan: The fastest gaming laptop in the world? notebookcheck.com | 28.05.2019

The Intel Core i9-9900K desktop processor, which is officially overclocked to 5 GHz, is accompanied by two of the fastest Nvidia GPUs: Nvidia's Geforce RTX 2080 or RTX 2070.

 

that's cute! it gets the exact same CB15 score of 2054 at 5 Ghz like I do at 4.6 Ghz

 

Is not 2654 ?

Yeah is 2054 saw the better picture in article

I guess stock 9900k is 2050ish

 

Seems quite a lot better than an Alienware Area 51m. Looks like it has quite the elaborate cooling system.

 

But the graphics is BGA. Even a worse choice. A Big nope from me!

 

Ooops, I didn't see that. Well, hell. Then it's not worth a damn with a BGA GPU, LOL. No way I'd buy it even if it were MXM though. I'm done with expensive laptops, and MSI firmware is always cancer anyhow. Wonder why they got smart on the CPU and suddenly got stupid on the GPU? But, that's MSI for you. Seems they've always got to go and do something retarded to ruin their stuff.

 

This is from MSI’s specs. Support oc’in to 5.0GHz. Almost as it comes directly from Dell’s normal advertising. Almost as Alienware’s and MSI has talked with each other. Both released LGA processors in their gaming books almost at same time (within same year). Azor said they have developed aka worked with this concept several years Trustworthy?

 

Yeah, they're all crooks and liars that build garbage. That's why they're not getting any more of my money for broken trashbooks. I work too hard for my money to waste any of it on overpriced crippled rubbish.

 

Nothing worth buying now...still. I need* a good* laptop. Utter sh#t to choose from. 95% of laptops have your token 8750 with a 2060/2070mq/2080mq... wat-da-faq

 

Every 4-6 months, I check what is out and then scurry back to my P870DM-G. 980 is more than enough on the road and with the 8086k in there now, there isn't much else I need. I rocked Alienware 18's for years then switched to the P870DM.
I've been rocking a P870DM in some shape or form ever since I bought yours @TBoneSan many moons ago. I sense myself rocking this for yet another year. I literally can't stomach a BGA laptop of any sort for my personal laptop.

 

Yeah they're pretty much all that's left now. I've been temped a few times to get one again. I almost pulled the trigger on the 15" one that had the 1080 in it (might have been Bro Fox's old one).
Might see what Clevo come up with, they're surely due for a bit of a cosmetic refresh too now.

p.s sorry to de-rail the desktop thread gents. Pretty much all the old boys have had enough and moved into desktops

 

Does Superposition, Heaven and Valley run better on W10? Thanks

 

Not really. Test both and see which scores higher, but the only thing that ever scores higher on W10 for me is Fire Strike graphics test. And, since the physics performance carries very low weight (and only for that reason) in the overall score it comes out higher on W10 by just a little bit. Everything else W7 pretty much kicks its teeth out. (Cannot count the ones that only function with W10 since they don't work with W7... otherwise, they would lose to W7 on those, too.) All things considered, W10 does nothing whatsoever as good as W7.

 

Newer is better, right @Papusan? Ran all 3 of these back to back with identical BIOS settings.

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Danm Nice Could you test Cinebench R15 and Firestrike with 1809 vs. the new latest and greatest 1903 and put up? Use same latest nvidia drivers. Thanks.

Btw. Is there new services that has to be killed in 1903?

 

Maybe later after work. I haven't noticed any new services bloat in 1903 versus 1809. There could be, but I have everything disabled that doesn't need to exist in order to run Windows properly in both. The unnecessary services needed to support the worthless added garbage that isn't essential to Windows 10 functioning as an OS is absolutely insane.

 

5Ghz is stock 9900K single core Turbo and stock 9900KS all core Turbo. That's not overclocking.
Where are the numbers at? Nothing in the spreadsheets except percentage bars, nothing on 3DMark either, even after it was officially announced. That doesn't exactly look like they are confident in their claims.

 

They aren't confident or competent. The BGA GPU alone is evidence of incompetence, LOL.

 

I just put version 1709 build 16299 on. Going to test it and then see if my scores are better than when I had 1809 installed. I believe @Johnksss is running 16299.

 

Fox, what's the difference between Win 10 LTSC and Win 10 Enterprise 1809?

 

Very Purdee ... great stuff.

Very nice!

Eyeing it like a hawk....

Haha ... true....

LOL ... M$ = "Making things worse, because we're limited by our IQ."

I'm curious to see what my 47x and 48x runs were now .. hmmm.. I'll have to dig them up.

I'll test it on my Z390 Dark when I get it back together.

I've been very curious about the new AMD CPU's... The keynote was interesting...

They had the Ryzen 9 3700X (12 Core @ 46x / 105W) listed at $499 so I wonder what the 16 core will be... The rumors for the 16 core for a long time was $499, which did seem too good to be true, but I was still curious how close to the $500 mark it'd be... we'll know soon enough..

AMD CPU' relesae date: July 7th.

Ah yes... TeamViewer has been nice on Linux... I was using it on window$ until recently...

100%. Life is so much better with Linux as the daily driver. Window$ has been only for games and benching for me for years now... it's the way to go (Linux).

Happy belated Memorial Day! What a weekend... great times... super blessed.

Amen to that Brother.

Absolutely. Mouse/Keyboard FTW all day. The only time I use a controller is for racing games like Project Cars etc...

FPS game wise, Keyboard/Mouse OWN's controller any day.

Oh my... just when I thought MSI would pull through... this is reverse chaos now... before MSI had bga CPU with MXM... now it's the other way around haha!

How comedic!

 

@Rage Set

... to elaborate on AMD, another thing that I'm curious about is if we'll be bound to the same limitations as their previous chips... it runs ok on ambient but when OC'ed it doesn't do as good as expected. A few hundred MHz also adds a ton more TDP so well have to wait and see...

@ ALL --- Hope everyone had a great Memorial Day weekend.

 

Not sure if the scores match 2666MHz ram clock speed (2133MHz OEM ram).


I found some of @Mr. Fox older resuls from Clevo P870DM-G

 

OK, here you go, Brother @Papusan...

Exactly. Homey don't play dat.

Further confirmation... newer ain't better when it comes to Windoze OS X and the dirty deeds of the Redmond Mafia. Their retarded crime syndicate continues to produce more of the same. Each release degrades CPU performance little by little. They are imbeciles that couldn't do anything right if their lives depended on it. And, the degradation started with Windows 8.X.

Testing Process:

• Same BIOS settings for CPU and RAM
• Same ESO Extreme services profile applied to both OSes
• Same GeFarts driver version for both OSes
• Same GPU power limit manually set using nvidia-smi
• No Defender, Meltdown and Spectre mitigations disabled, no Windows Updates
  
• Run CBR15 2x in 1903, reboot, run CBR15 2x in 1809 ("Keep best score" checked)
• Run Fire Strike in 1903, reboot, run Fire Strike in 1809 (repeat)

Verdict: Older OS wins every time. A solid "fail" for the Digi-Nazis... as usual.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/19456810/fs/19456840/fs/19456898/fs/19457036

 

Sad. And you're 100% sure there is no other thing in 1903 that have to be disabled? Is there a difference in amount processes in 1903 vs. 1809 ? Remember ESO Extreme services profile is old. Not updated anymore (Eso is put up from Black Vipers tweaked OS settings)

 

Well, we can never be 100% certain about anything with Micro$lop's name on it other than the fact that they suck. But, if there is I haven't found it so far. If I do, I will be sure and post it and re-run the tests to see if it fails to a lesser degree.

 

Thanks. +rep added.
Maybe test the Guinea pig update for 1903 http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-1903.827243/page-15#post-10914765

 

Very nice! 9900K makes a pretty dramatic improvement in memory performance (as well as CPU performance) over 6700K.

Mission accomplished. But, much like casting pearls before swine when it comes to swaying the Windows 10 Kool-Aid drinkers.

 

Luckily, we have an example of 7nm tech in the Radeon 7. Does it OC better than its base clock, it does (it did, I no longer have the card). Did it match its competitor? No, not all the time. But it is the first step in the right direction.

I have higher hopes for the Ryzen 3000 series and I may build a test rig to see how well it can perform. I see single digit differences between Intel current mainstream and the new Ryzen parts be the norm. At that point, it will be up to the consumer to decide.

Like the majority of you in this thread, I want the best performance possible. Brand loyalty be damned. I am still going to pick up a 9900KS to replace my weaker 9900K.

EDIT: Intel will be releasing new CPU's for X299. That would be three releases for one chipset.

 

Nice post... I have the 2667MHx Kingston HyberX 16GBx2 sticks in the AW... I could do some tests as well, but that hideous RAM cap of 2400 haha!

Thanks for doing the tests... yea even with OSX the last decent version is Mavericks 10.9, which is 6 generations old lol ... it's just crazy...

It's quite a jump indeed... the 9900K is a great chip and it'll be known as a classic chip like the good ol' 4970K ...

I have my fingers crossed that AMD pulls through with the real world tests... the last I've heard ASRock is going to do some XOC demonstrations today/tomorrow at Computex. That should be exciting...

As for the 9900KS, I'm definitely interested in that too, but it might turn out to be a give&take with the performance that might make it come full circle to be ~ 1:1 to the K model. We'll have to see...

How far does your current 9900K OC to? (max)

 

Maybe they work better running 2400MHz vs. the 2400 sticks Dell put into the Area-51m You know what sticks Dell use? Some got even 2666MHz sticks but I can't remember the brand and model.

 

That's true... At 2400 with the 2667 HyperX sticks it runs with tighter timings.

The 2667 sticks that ship with the Area 51M are Kingston branded ram w/ micron chips.

 

My max stable OC is 5.2. Beyond that, it doesn't like it. Crashes a lot. I don't need a golden chip but I would like something that would get to 5.4.

 

Ah ok... Yea 52x isn't bad, but I totally understand in wanting a stronger chip.

My original 9900K golden egg can do 54x with all benching, except cinebench and the new golden egg can do 55x although it's a bit lazy... This is all on the regular custom loop (non chilled)...

The 55x chip should do well on the chiller. Looking forward to getting around to that here soon.

 

KPx Hydro Copper block jumped up an additional $50.00. I don't know if that means demand is exceeding stock but this is becoming crazy. The question now becomes, will the performance increase of the block be worth the extra $350.

 

I saw! I had refreshed the page and saw that....then made me rubber neck lol... uugghhh

I think the full cover block will help a lot... I'm a big fan... the only mission now is to control the condensation when on a chiller...

btw @Papusan here's the pic of the stock RAM from the A51M.

 

Hey @ RTX I am coming for you!

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19458488

 

Has it been confirmed that the MSI has a BGA GPU? Have we seen it without the heatsink?

I get 2173 at 5Ghz so even the crippled Area-51m seems like it performs better (2133 without doing the realtime priority)

 

i think @Prema is confirmation enough if u ask me

speaking of @Prema, here i thought u got rid of your 1080s in exchange for the rtx2080?

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Hi guys. Anyone have trouble with installing Catzilla? I really like that benchmark but after I install it and try to run it I always get some kind of error message. They are always different. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

When I get some time tonight, I'll download it and try it out. I never heard of this benchmark before.

 

It's pretty cool; you will like it. Thanks Bro