Phoenix's i7 6700k Lives on...

So I purchased Phoenix's i7 6700k Silicon Lottery CPU recently.

And I couldn't wait so I started buying the parts for the build and I figure I might as well put a thread together showcasing it being put to good use.

NZXT S340 Elite Black/Red Case.

EVGA Z270 FTW K 132-KS-E277-KR

G.Skill TridentZ Series DDR4 3200 4x8gb (Plan to overclock to 4000mhz)

Corsair Hydro H115i

Corsair AX860

And I plan on purchasing a EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 once it becomes available.


With this build I can figure I'm going to be pumping atleast 32k firestrike scores maybe higher on P-Mode after some slight modification to the vbios and some overclocking

The parts should be floating in over the next few days so I will slowly put together the pile lol. I already have 3x500gb Samsung EVO 850's and a 5tb HDD so I shouldn't have to worry about storage space.

 

I love this case. I had the white one. I miss it too. I actually like the design more that the H440

 

Awesome build man! I am so anxious what you will be able to do with my Silicon Lottery now that it would get proper cooling I am confident you can hit 4.8GHz stable

I'm also glad my gem of a CPU went into good hands

 

Nice build, I wanted to use an EVGA MB but they weren't out when I built mine. I'm also about to get one of those 1080Tis, its a thing of beauty.

 

Love the build, the finished product should look and perform great! I especially like the case.

 

Yeah this case really caught my eye when I was looking and the price was crazy to pass up.

I appreciate that @Phoenix, honestly I think I will be able to do 5ghz possibly on her with the cpu cooler and be completely stable, gotta remember I have more voltage and substantially more cooling tied to it so I think 5ghz is very possible since the was a 4.8ghz confirmed cpu. But even if it only does 4.8ghz I will be more than happy.

I was torn on getting this board or the Classified, I went this route because I am not going for records, I'm going for enjoyment and brute strength so this will do the job. Yeah I'm waiting for the 1080 Ti FTW3 to come out, the second it releases it is going on the credit card lol

Ya I will have the majority of it tomorrow so I will take some pictures of the pile and hopefully I will either build it over the weekend and it will be atleast confirmed running on onboard graphics.

 

Excellent! Very interested in this build primarily because of the 1080ti you're putting in it - am very interested to see what you max 24/7 rock stable overclock will be for it, and the temperatures & fan speeds you get with it. Will be interested to see the CPU overclock side too, also interested to see your case air temperatures. On the subject of air temperatures in the case, play about with fan configurations to determine the lowest case temperatures - I did this with my recent build in my sig, and I found out that more case fans didn't equal more cooling - in the end one intake fan at the lower front and 2 exhaust fans (rear panel top & top panel rear) created the lowest temperatures even when compared to 3 intake + 3 exhaust fans! This is the config courtesy of Toms Hardware:

 

Nice. I'm very strongly considering the 1080TI instead of waiting for next gen, so I'm watching all builds.

 

Well I just booted on internal graphics right now as I am basically getting ready for the 1080ti. She booted at 4.8ghz and voltage is at 1.362v while the ram is still only 3200mhz @1.36v. right now this is on auto for voltage. So I'm excited it will boot at 4.8ghz without a issue. Hopefully after I got a temporary card in I can really stress her out and see what she does and requires to maintain that clock without it shutting down.



I will say this, I'm not happy that they showed it improperly on the website for the case, I'd like it just to be the bar red, but hopefully once I get the SSD's put in place it will even out the red a little.

 

That's good that it booted at 4.8 Ghz at a low voltage. If I was you I'd do some Prime95 stress tests on it overnight to make sure it's stable, because if it's not and you continue to use your PC at 4.8Ghz then you might corrupt your OS install. I'd take an image of your install before doing your overclock testing while at default settings so you can revert back to a 'clean' OS if you ever run into corruption troubles.

 

Hopefully tomorrow I will have a GTX 970 to hold me over till the 1080 Ti FTW3 releases and I will complete it tomorrow afternoon and do some testing on it.

I'm not too worried about OS Corruption, I've tangled with a few cpu's in my day so I should be fine, plus I backup everything lol.

Well I am currently typing on her. I got lazy and swapped my SSD out of my Alienware temporarily into it and I ran her at 4.8ghz with those settings on the benchmark several times with throttlestop on and she stayed stable no voltage drops, no throttling actually because it never broke 45C on quiet mode lol This CPU might have a few tricks up its sleeve. I'm going to see if I can boot at 5ghz with auto settings.

*Update*
Ladies and Gentlemen.....
I give you 5ghz....
http://valid.x86.fr/8es7zn

 

That's very impressive for a 6700K, but it means more if these overclocks are truly stable, to me just being able to boot or running a 5min stress test isn't a reason to say a CPU can run a certain overclock - to me an overnight Prime95 run would convince me that I had a stable overclock.

 

And to add, my Physics Score is wild, it's got some abilities and I haven't even gotten it past 45C. Honestly I think for the Single 1080 Ti, I might take the #1 slot.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12023751
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18643940?
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18644000?

Well honestly I think it is going to do fine for right now, I'm not going to get into the redline till I get the 1080 Ti, even then I might not stress her too much, it has run thru about 20 benchs tonight without crashing so I'd say she's stable enough right now but I'm going to back her off to 4.8ghz for now.

 

Well, that's cool, you have a different approach to me, I like to be a bit more scientific & more confident in the overclocks I've set - looks like a fantastic CPU though!

 

so are you happy with your purchase from me bro? this is a golden sample Silicon Lottery CPU, meaning, it is the best of the 6700K

Speaking of your temps, remember, that CPU ran @ 4.6 GHz 24/7 in a laptop with 0 voltage undervolt or whatnot, I remember I was able to boot and benchmark @ 4.8 GHz with a +50mV overvolt so in a desktop system like yours with better cooling, you are sure to have some fun.

indeed, it's not any standard 6700K, silicon lottery golden sample / factory delidded with Liquid Ultra between the CPU die and the IHS

 

Yeah, I knew it was a golden sample, didn't know about the delid with liquid ultra - definitely worth the effort on a golden sample!

 

oh yes it was factory delidded from Silicon Lottery themselves and the IHS properly sealed back you'd think that's how it came out of the factory from Intel

 

Cool, when you bought it, how much extra did it cost than a normal random 6700K? I've toyed with the idea of delidding my own 6700K, but I don't think I have much to gain from the procedure, because it's already at 1.3V and I don't want to go any higher - want it to be sure to last 5yrs.

 

I paid full price as I didn't order it with the system........

First Clevo P870DM I had couldn't even run without overheating at stock speeds........

so I thought I'd try my luck again when I swapped it for a Eurocom Sky X9, the 6700K in that was slightly better, ran @ 4.4 GHz but @ 92C.......

So I was tired of trying my luck again, I then chose a CPU from Silicon Lottery, the best they had at the time which was for $550USD and asked HIDevolution to buy it on my behalf, test it, then ship it to me as I didn't wanna pay and wait for refunds and whatnot if the CPU was not good so I had them do all the testing to save me the hassle

That's when they started offering Silicon Lottery CPUs themselves by the way since they saw the difference between my CPU vs the stock ones

 

So quite a lot more expensive than a normal 6700K, about $200 more maybe? I suppose you gotta pay for the binned CPU, and then the added labour for the delidding & the admin & the profit, so it's understandably more. Definitely makes sense in a laptop where cooling is a luxury.

 

oh yeah I forgot to mention, the CPU was $499 USD + $50 USD for the delidding service. very professionally done. When I tried sealing back the IHS on one oy mf previous 6700Ks it was a horrible mess with glue sticking out from all corners. Some people like Papusan don't see the value on this since they did get lucky and got a good CPU but for someone as unluck as I was with the 6700Ks, the peace of mind to get a cooler CPU out of the box that can overclock was worth every penny, just install it and forget it. Unlike the previous ones I had where I was constantly dismanlting everything and trying this paste and that paste with bad results, I got fed up at the time which is why I paid the premium and I kept telling myself everyday I used my laptop how it was worth every penny.

here is an old post I made.......

First system I had was a barebone Clevo P870DM-G with a 6700K that couldn't even run stable at 4.2 GHz x4 (on all cores that is). Next system which was a Eurocom Sky X9 also had a 6700K, this time a bit better, it was able to do 4.3 GHz stable.

I have seen many users here complain about high temps even at stock speeds. The 6700K is a hit or miss, 50-50 chance to get a good one. Even if you don't want to overclock, spending a bit more to get a Silicon Lottery one ensures your CPU will run cooler overclocked or not. Giving you better thermals and longevity since the CPU won't be running hot constantly.
This Silicon Lottery CPU I got (rated to run @4.8GHz in a desktop) can run @ 4.7 GHz not very stable or 4.6 GHz stable all day long with max temps of 85C no matter what I throw at it.

 

Oh more than happy, this has to be the best purchase of the year for me. when I got it to boot at 5.2ghz I had that grin on my face haha. I have been running Auto right now for the voltage which i probably overkill on the voltage but temps have been great, I will plan on my vacation to find the sweet spot.

 

Leaving voltage on Auto is not a great idea, you're just adding extra stress to the CPU (& shortening it's life) for no extra benefit, even if the temperatures are not high. I'm sure it will be fine on Auto at stock settings, but if you're gonna run it overclocked, don't leave it on auto.

 

Honestly with a EVGA z270 FTW k board, it actually is almost spot on with the voltages, last night I fiddled with the voltage and I was only able to squeeze maybe 25-50mv less vs what the board sets it too. I think EVGA actually might have done something to gauge a little bit on the capability of a chip because at bone stock it runs at 1.096v and boots up and runs like a champ, so maybe evga really did make overclocking a painless effort. So far at 4.6ghz it runs at 1.2v which is what it sets at auto as well.

So all in all, the science I think ended because I have to be more scientific on the GTX 970 for voltage vs clock then I do with this board and cpu combo.

But more shall come as my vacation starts tomorrow.

 

That's good to hear. I do have a suspicion that you might be looking at the CoreVID voltage in HWInfo rather than the VCore in HWInfo. VCore is the actual voltage going to the CPU after the motherboard 'makes adjustments'. CoreVID is the 'guidelines' for voltage that the CPU has programed into itself for that particular individual CPU. The fact that you say the voltage does not change between auto & manual settings suggests there's a possibility you're probably reading the CoreVID value rather the VCore value?

An example of what I'm talking about above. My 6700K @4.6Ghz has a CoreVID of 1.21V, but a VCore of 1.32V. It's the VCore that is the sensor reading you want to look at, and is the actual voltage that goes to the CPU after the motherboard 'makes adjustments'. (You have to load up the CPU with something like Cinebench15 or Prime95 while looking at HWInfo sensor readings to see what the maximum voltages are.)

 

I been look at the VCore in the Bios and in HWInfo, I'm currently running 4.8ghz at 1.254v. And that is will Prime95 is beating the snot out of the cpu. By the way, that voltage is what the mainboard set, not me.


And yes the temp got to 81C because I forgot to put my Corsair Link to Performance which dropped her down to 65C. Max speed on all of the fans brings it down to 60C when stressing it.


Just for giggles I'm going to see what it does at 5.2ghz just to see if it will behave.

 

That's good, I'm VERY surprised that a motherboard auto voltage setting for 4.8Ghz is only 1.27V, but it does indeed look that way. Well 1.27V is certainly not dangerous, so you may as well leave it on auto.

60 degC for a 65W load is not very good cooling performance, unless your throttlestop screenshot was just an anomaly, especially as you're delidded too, so not sure if something is up there. EDIT: unless your ambient room temperature is 30 degC or something.

 

Welp... I killed it.... the mainboard popped.... I didn't even try lol, I was in the middle of Mass Effect Andromeda and suddenly it shut down, found out that the mainboard just let loose got a C code, so I popped the CPU into my buddies rig, worked fine, So all we can think is the board couldn't hang for some reason, no idea why, EVGA is warrantying it out. Should have the board Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

glad the CPU is ok at least

 

Wow, that's surprising.... Good to hear the CPU and everything else didn't get fried...

 

Hopefully it's just a coincidence and you had a weak point in the board.

 

Ya that was my first worry so I quick went to test it to make sure it was okay.

Yeah here Wednesday I swap out the board and hopefully all will be right with the world.

That is what I was thinking, the voltages were low and it was doing well, most likely it just was a bad board, about time I got one of those lol its been like 16 years of making computers and I have never had a bad mainboard, so I think I was due lol.

 

I'm a bit jealous, I've has several go bad.

 

And she lives again. New mobo in, swapped everything carefully and adjusted a few settings in bios and it is like it never had anything done to it at all. And same low voltage at 4.8ghz. I'll take that any day of the week. Now to just wait patiently till may for the 1080 ti FTW3.

 

I almost had one of those pre ordered except an issue with their website screwed it up. I did pre order a SC2 Gaming version, It would be interesting to compare overclocks down the road.

 

Good to know it was just a bad board.

 

Just a little update.



Ordered her and awaiting for it to be fulfilled, I can't wait to see what this card can do....

 

I think that's going to be my next card too. Keep us updated!

 

My understanding is ship date for this card is 5/22 from EVGA.

 

Good to know. I haven't ordered yet but a co-worker has and I get to hear every day how excited he is for it.

 

SO what is best mogo for OC 6700k, not so expesive, z170 is enough? asus pro gaming got some copmetition?

 

I don't know, I don't think there's much difference between motherboards, when I see reviews on Guru3D they all seem to give about the same overclocking results. I got a Z170 MSI Krait Gaming 3x, seems to work like a champ, BIOS is good to navigate, etc. If I was you I'd see what the best deals I could get, and then I'd check reviews for whatever of the best deals you find.

 

Yes I saw many reviews of z170 and z270, also I add Your choice (msi Krait) to my comparing list when I saw Your OC results
Still not many "not so expensive" mb to oc is on the market

 

Yep, all you can do is choose the best deal, and check the reviews for that particular model, so you don't end up buying a motherboard with issues or poor reviews.

EDIT: and here's a review of a Z270 board, that I'm just about to read, but interestingly at the beginning of the article it talks about the different 'classes' of MSI motherboards based on level of quality or features: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/16/msi_z270_krait_gaming_lga_1151_motherboard_review
My motherboard falls into the middle tier of MSI's motherboards, so praps you don't need anything better than that (the Performance Gaming section).

 

Thanks Man, I'll check that for sure

 

Unless you need Optane support (doubt it but I don't know your priorities) Z170 should be fine.

 

true, comparing z170 to z270 is not much differences

But we talking about oc CPU so which one (z170) will be best, that one who hold good voltage for cpu with good cpu power section. And not so expensive ofcourse

 

What price range? for OC I like MSI and Gigabyte lately.

 

till 150 usd

 

My Asus Z270 Prime has been a great board, I'm running my 7700K at 5.1 without any issues. It has a nice set of features for the price.